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      Is it worth buying African players?
      Dec 19, 2007 05:53:32 pm
      With all the speculation about African players going off to play for their countries in the early months of every new year I have heard a lot of people say that it isn't worth buying them if they aren't going to be around for crucial months of the season. Others say that it can be worth buying them if they are good enough but it will be a dissapointment went they leave for their countries. My personal opinion is so long as they are playing well while they are here what does it matter when they go. What are your thoughts?
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      Reply #1: Dec 19, 2007 05:58:16 pm
      look at adebayor. scoring regularly for arsenal and his team didnt even qualify for the african nations so he is staying.yh i think it is worth it, they are good ball winners in the centre of the park and have great strength on the ball, if u choose the right one you could get a fantastic player who retains possesion well for your side
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      Reply #2: Dec 19, 2007 07:22:36 pm
      It's unfortunate but it's not every year and I wouldn't let it stop Liverpool purchasing a player from a top African nation because of it.
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      Reply #3: Dec 20, 2007 01:54:29 pm
      i dnt think so, yeh they may be physical and have the stamina to out run all others but when it comes down to it, its all about the football brain, and not many of them have that, simple as!
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      Reply #4: Dec 20, 2007 01:57:20 pm
      Silly debate IMO. It's like asking if it's worth buying a top class player who might be injured for a month every season and miss a few games.
      « Last Edit: Dec 20, 2007 02:04:04 pm by Reepicheep »
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      Re: Is it worth buying African players?
      Reply #5: Dec 20, 2007 02:00:29 pm
      its all about the football brain, and not many of them have that, simple as!

      A very misinformed comment, I take it you haven't watched players like Yaya Toure, Sulley Muntari or Jay Jay Okocha, and are too young to remember the likes of George Weah. Let's not forget either there are players like Vieira, who whilst officially being French was actually born in Senegal. It is a very sweeping statement you have made there mate, and one that borders on being prejudicial, try engaging your brain before posting.
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      Reply #6: Dec 20, 2007 02:09:07 pm
      A very misinformed comment, I take it you haven't watched players like Yaya Toure, Sulley Muntari or Jay Jay Okocha, and are too young to remember the likes of George Weah. Let's not forget either there are players like Vieira, who whilst officially being French was actually born in Senegal. It is a very sweeping statement you have made there mate, and one that borders on being prejudicial, try engaging your brain before posting.

      true there are alot of african players that are intellegent on the ball, even, dare i say it drogba has some moments of sublime football that require football brain.
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      Reply #7: Dec 20, 2007 02:27:06 pm
      true there are alot of african players that are intellegent on the ball, even, dare I say it drogba has some moments of sublime football that require football brain.

      He's the prime example of an African player with a brilliant football mind! Much as we all hate him, he's still a f*cking amazing footballer!

      If you're to buy any world class footballer, they are usually good enough to play for their country! If they're African, it's simply a sacrifice you have to make when making the decision!
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      Reply #8: Dec 20, 2007 02:37:11 pm
      He's the prime example of an African player with a brilliant football mind! Much as we all hate him, he's still a f*cking amazing footballer!

      If you're to buy any world class footballer, they are usually good enough to play for their country! If they're African, it's simply a sacrifice you have to make when making the decision!

      exactly. and as stated before they dont always go only if their team qualifies
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      Reply #9: Dec 20, 2007 02:39:40 pm
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      Reply #10: Dec 20, 2007 02:43:12 pm
      exactly. and as stated before they dont always go only if their team qualifies

      Same again, if they're amazing footy players then they've probably helped their team into the championships! ;)
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      Reply #11: Dec 20, 2007 03:03:18 pm
      im not being in any way prejudice, i am informed very well thank you, but i have an opinion which is valid, i would rather have a young european player, or to be honest top notch english if available rather then an african player. i agree there are some greats, but if you do look closely they are not great minded in football terms, all great african players learn there trade in either france or spain, so its the influence of those leagues that create players such as the toure brothers, drogba and okacha.
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      Reply #12: Dec 20, 2007 03:40:34 pm
      Apart from the fact that Yaya Toure learned his trade in Belgium, Ukraine & Greece and only moved on to Monaco then Barca once he was an established player?

      Once again you are completely generalising, and once again in many cases you are wrong.
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      Reply #13: Dec 20, 2007 03:47:33 pm
      THERE IS NO NEED TO CARRY ON, WE ALL HAVE OPINIONS, in my case i dont think we need african players at liverpool, after all that was the question, not your consistant argueing with me.
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      Reply #14: Dec 20, 2007 04:27:31 pm
      THERE IS NO NEED TO CARRY ON, WE ALL HAVE OPINIONS

      You're absolutely right, and my opinion is that you are a tit.

      You have made a statement that is way off the mark, and then can't handle it when I state cases that don't fit in with your theory. Your problem, not mine.
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      Re: Is it worth buying African players?
      Reply #15: Dec 20, 2007 04:48:12 pm

      Eusebio was Portugese not African or was he like most French players Algerian or Senegalese (thts not meant to be racist)
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      Re: Is it worth buying African players?
      Reply #16: Dec 20, 2007 04:57:40 pm
      Eusebio was born in Mozambique mate, so of African origin.
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      Re: Is it worth buying African players?
      Reply #17: Dec 20, 2007 05:39:50 pm
      I think that you need to take a look at what your saying, you are making some very sweeping generalisations in your posts regarding African footballers. To say that "not many of them have footballing brains" is a massive insult, and EddieC was correct when he said that it was bordering on prejudicial.

      As for the question itself, obviously we would all love to see 11 Liverpool born and bred local lads running out for our club each week, but that is jsut not going to happen in todays game. I personally think that there should be some sort of limit on the number of foriegn players allowed in a match day squad, but i do not care in the slightest where the foriegn players come from as long as they are good enough to pull on the shirt and have the right attitude when wearing it.
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      Re: Is it worth buying African players?
      Reply #18: Dec 20, 2007 08:48:49 pm
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      I dnt think so, yeh they may be physical and have the stamina to out run all others but when it comes down to it, its all about the football brain, and not many of them have that, simple as!

      im not being in any way prejudice, I am informed very well thank you, but I have an opinion which is valid, I would rather have a young european player, or to be honest top notch english if available rather then an african player. I agree there are some greats, but if you do look closely they are not great minded in football terms, all great african players learn there trade in either france or spain, so its the influence of those leagues that create players such as the toure brothers, drogba and okacha.

      Would you like to explain why being from Africa means you don't have or can't develop a football brain as well as a player from any other part of the globe?

      In my experience anyone who starts a sentence with "im not being in any way prejudice...but" (sic) invariably is prejudiced.  I totally disagree with EddieC that this borders on the prejudicial.  In my opinion you statements are blatantly racist as they suggest that somehow someone from Africa is not generally capable of having a football brain as well an anyone else.

      The only way to overcome racism is to challenge it which I will do whenever I come across it.  I'm not an administrator but if I was you'd be binned now you ars*hole.

       
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      Reply #19: Dec 20, 2007 09:00:17 pm
      I dnt think so, yeh they may be physical and have the stamina to out run all others but when it comes down to it, its all about the football brain, and not many of them have that, simple as!

      Tell me why not  ???  Already excellent examples of African footballers been quoted by EddieC.  No matter what league you play in, you are influenced and adapt to that particular country/league.  ::)
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      Re: Is it worth buying African players?
      Reply #20: Dec 20, 2007 09:59:18 pm
      Silly question Drogba will still get more goals than Kuyt and Vorronin and maybe even Crouch put together and thats with missing half the season with injuruies and African Nations.
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      Reply #21: Dec 20, 2007 10:02:54 pm
      Silly question Drogba will still get more goals than Kuyt and Vorronin and maybe even Crouch put together and thats with missing half the season with injuruies and African Nations.

      You could be right there.  I'd have Drogba any day of the week.
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      Re: Is it worth buying African players?
      Reply #22: Dec 21, 2007 07:44:10 am
      There is not a problem in signing a player of any nationality,The problem lies with F.I.F.A and E.U.F.A. who have allowed the countries to demand clubs release players for meaningless friendlies and competitions This is a way for F.I.F.A and E.U F.A. to have control of clubs.I still recall when England would play friendlies on a Wednesday and would include a couple of local players to boost the gate.

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