Torres Injured

On international duty.

Came off the field in the Spain game about 10 minutes ago.

sh*t.

(Everyone change your prediction for the Chelsea game)

 

F***ing hell! Get a win, and then this goes and does this. defeat is staring in teh face.

NO!?

Repeat after me, "it's just a minor knock, it's just a minor knock, it's just a minor knock."

Apparently he was holding his right leg in the hamstring area when going off.

Hoping its only a minor knock.

Hamstring Strain guys. BBC said so.

I am hoping it is only a minor knock and it isn't serious.

if he is out of the chelsea match *touches wood that he isn't* It is likely we will play a 4-5-1 with gerrard just behind crouch.

F**k F**k F**k

I wouldn't panic, ok he was stretchered off but still wouldn't panic.. will only be out for 6 weeks. F**k did I say 6 weeks? F***ing Internationals...

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THATS 2 INTERNATIONAL BREAKS IN A ROW THAT HE HAS COME BACK INJURED!!!!
 

WELL HE HAS 3 DAYS REST SO LETS HOPE HE WILL BE OKAY

DID I SAY HOPE??  I MEAN PRAY.

THE LAST INTERNATIONAL BREAK HE CAME BACK FROM INJURED WE HAD ARSENAL NEXT. IS THAT JUST BAD LUCK OR HAS HE PISSED GOD OFF OR SOMETHING

Bollocks.  Babel and Crouch up front on Sunday anyone??

Apparently he has broken his leg.

Apparently he has broken his leg.

 
You really scared me there for a second.

Oh god, don't do what that guy who posted the last 'Torres injured' topic did and almost give me a bloody heart attack KK...

All we can do is wait till tomorrow on this one, but without Torres I can see us struggling to pick up a point away to Chelsea...

What a kick in the bollocks that is.

What a kick in the bollocks that is.

Surely not that painfull

Surely not that painfull

He definitely won't be firing on all cylinders by Sunday

F**k F**k F**k

F**k F**k F**k F**k F**k

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhh.

 

Crouch and Kuyt in attack?  It might work.

No it won't work will it?

Troubles in the thigh

F**k F**k F**k F**k F**k

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhh.

 

Crouch and Kuyt in attack?  It might work.

No it won't work will it?

Yes it will! if not we need to look at playing Babel at half time (need a left winger for this game for sure)

Our luck just wont start will it. FFS when is someone going make rules against this international bollox, god dam it Im so pissed off about this its untrue.

This is from SkySports.com. Seems like Nando is going to be fit after all!! Here is hoping!!!

Fernando Torres has played down fears over the hamstring injury which forced him off during Spain's victory over France and insists he will be fit to face Chelsea on Sunday.

The Liverpool striker limped off in Seville after just 23 minutes and immediately there were fears that the Spaniard could be set for a spell on the sidelines.

Spain's team doctor Jorge Candel was quick to come out after the game to play down the severity of the injury.

"The injury of Torres is not of major importance," said Candel.

Torres then confirmed that he came off at his own request to make sure he did not damage himself with Liverpool's match with Chelsea very much on his mind.

"I preferred not to risk it," said Torres. "I demanded the change.

"I will have medical tests, but I intend to play on Sunday against Chelsea."

Surely his intention to play is dependant on Rafa picking him  he's played far too many games of late surely Rafa thinks it's time to give someone else a chance    i'm ONLY joking if he plays he'll score mark my words !

Nice to read that he didn't want to risk being seriously injured by demanding that he be substituted...

Can't question the man's priorities on that one...

"I preferred not to risk it," said Torres. "I demanded the change.

"I will have medical tests, but I intend to play on Sunday against Chelsea." [/I]

This is the level of forsight and commitment all our players should be showing!!
I can only commend "El Nino"
Good luck on Sunday son!
IRWT

This is from SkySports.com. Seems like Nando is going to be fit after all!! Here is hoping!!!

Fernando Torres has played down fears over the hamstring injury which forced him off during Spain's victory over France and insists he will be fit to face Chelsea on Sunday.

The Liverpool striker limped off in Seville after just 23 minutes and immediately there were fears that the Spaniard could be set for a spell on the sidelines.

Spain's team doctor Jorge Candel was quick to come out after the game to play down the severity of the injury.

"The injury of Torres is not of major importance," said Candel.

Torres then confirmed that he came off at his own request to make sure he did not damage himself with Liverpool's match with Chelsea very much on his mind.

"I preferred not to risk it," said Torres. "I demanded the change.

"I will have medical tests, but I intend to play on Sunday against Chelsea."

He's still gotta be picked though and you know what Rafa's like!

I really hope he is fit but I can see the concerned boss leaving him out anyway fearing a risk of further injury.

good news that, lets hope its going to disappear before sunday!

TORRES: I WANT TO FACE CHELSEA

Jimmy Rice 07 February 2008
 
  Fernando Torres insists he has every intention of facing Chelsea on Sunday despite being forced off with a suspected thigh injury during Spain's friendly with France last night. 
The striker, who lasted just 23 minutes of the 1-0 victory over Les Bleus, is reported in the Spanish press as saying: "I preferred not to risk it. I demanded the change.
 
"I will have medical tests, but I intend to play on Sunday against Chelsea."
 
Torres' optimism is backed up by national coach Luis Aragones, who said: "He has a knock that does not seem important."
 
Torres will now be examined by medical staff at Melwood when he returns from international duty to determine whether he'll be fit for this weekend's crucial clash at Stamford Bridge.
 
A Liverpool spokesman said: "We will not know the full extent of Fernando Torres' injury until he is examined by our own medical staff. This will happen on Thursday afternoon."
 
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What we don't want is for him to play and aggravate the injury further, and then be out for longer then necessary.

Strong fit lad though so we'll wait and see.

Radio Merseyside's 12 0'clock bulletin thinks he will have no problem being fit for Sunday so good news there then, anyway whats all the panic we still have Dirk

Radio Merseyside's 12 0'clock bulletin thinks he will have no problem being fit for Sunday so good news there then, anyway whats all the panic we still have Dirk

Problem? Call me up I have a bit of football abilty. Will only just last 2 minutes until I'm out of breath...
Nah Torres will be fit, and he'll scare the living sh*t out of whoever is in defense for Chelsea.. trust me!

Radio Merseyside's 12 0'clock bulletin thinks he will have no problem being fit for Sunday so good news there then, anyway whats all the panic we still have Dirk

We also have Riise too and look how he's been playing of late (sorry John)

We also have Riise too and look how he's been playing of late (sorry John)

haha (sorry John)
He does seem to put it up a gear against the chavs tho..

Let him come off the bench 50 minutes in while we are beating Chelsea 3 - 0 due to a Dirk Kuyt hattrick.

.... 

ok ill try and put a positive spin on this disaster

This may now be the chance for Ryan Babel to play up front with Crouch and he may just prove to be in the class we know he can be ye never know. Rush Fowler Owen all got there chance due to others being injured so altough he has played a bit this season maybe now hell get a chance as striker

Y.N.W.A

From LFC Website

Rafa Benitez has confirmed Liverpool fans' worst fears by revealing Fernando Torres is very unlikely to feature against Chelsea on Sunday. 
The striker lasted just 23 minutes of Spain's 1-0 victory over France on Wednesday after picking up a thigh injury.

B*llocks!!

Mind games I tell thee!

Mrs. Grant will be having a good time round about now.  Or no.  Yeah, eew.

Reminds me of Golem flossing his balls...

Mind games I tell thee!

Mrs. Grant will be having a good time round about now.  Or no.  Yeah, eew.

Reminds me of Golem flossing his balls...

Eh??  What are you on?

Could be mind games though.

I don't think Raffa will risk Torres with Inter coming up so soon after Chelsea not unless he's 100% and listening to the media this morning they say Raffa says this type of injury normally takes up to a week to heal.

We will have a few injuries on Sunday but so will Chelsea have players missing so with a little luck and good play who knows we may surprise Chelsea......

Latest info from the LFC Website

Rafa Benitez has confirmed Liverpool fans' worst fears by revealing Fernando Torres is very unlikely to feature against Chelsea on Sunday. 
The striker lasted just 23 minutes of Spain's 1-0 victory over France on Wednesday after picking up a hamstring injury.
 
The news comes as a major blow for Benitez, who is already without Daniel Agger, Andriy Voronin, Alvaro Arbeloa, Fabio Aurelio and the suspended Xabi Alonso.
 
On top of this, Javier Mascherano will not arrive back at Melwood until Friday due to Argentina's friendly clash with Guatemala later today.
 
Benitez said: "We have lost Torres and Mascherano is not back until tomorrow. I don't think it (the international friendly situation) is fair. I think Mascherano will be okay for Sunday but we will have to see.
 
"The news we have on Torres is that it is a hamstring injury. I need to talk to the doctor but I think he will miss this game. Normally it is a week when a player goes off like this.
 
"It is a big problem for us." 

It's not looking like it's mind games.

Why did this have to happen .....for god's sake , this is the first time in a long time that im going into a big game with no confidence ...this has confounded my fears.

Fernando Torres: I'm determined to face Chelsea

Feb 7 2008 by Tony Barrett, Liverpool Echo

FERNANDO TORRES is determined to be fit in time for the Reds' trip to Chelsea on Sunday despite coming off in Spain's 1-0 friendly victory over France last night.

The 23-year-old came off in some discomfort after just 23 minutes but he insists it was his decision to be substituted, and although he was set to undergo a scan today at Melwood today for his e injury will be assessed by Liverpool’s medical staff he is keen to face Avram Grant’s side.

"I preferred not to risk it. I demanded the change," he said.

"I will have medical tests but I intend to play on Sunday."

Echo Link

Look into the eyes not around the eyes...1..2...3....your under

Going to be a tough game with so many injuries. Expect us to play 4-5-1 now .

Well, I can't say I didn't see it coming...it would be a logical decision given the games which will follow but we will certainly miss him. This takes even more pressure off us, no one really expects us to beat Chelsea given our recent form...this could well be to our advantage.

The idea that this may be a red herring is a tantalizing one but, alas, this time I don't think we'll see our beloved number 9 terrorizing the Chelsea back four...

Me neither Saffi. And if it's his hamstring, I'd rather him not take any part. One of his biggest assets is his pace, so if he's not one hundred percent then he'd only risk making it a lot worse.

Injuries are a part of football so if we're without him, we'll just have to get on with it.

Gutted.

Torres Out Of Chelsea Clash
 
Fernando Torres will be unable to play against Chelsea on Sunday after picking up a knock in Spain's game against France on Wednesday.
 
The Liverpool striker limped out of the match in Málaga after just 23 minutes and was replaced by Daniel Güiza before undergoing tests on his hamstring in the changing room.

While the diagnosis is not as bad as first thought, Torres will be unable to appear at the weekend against the Blues.

Benítez also bemoaned the fact that Javier Mascherano was called up to play for Argentina against Guatemala and will not return to England until Friday.

"We have lost Torres and Mascherano is not back until tomorrow," he said.

"I don't think it (the international friendly situation) is fair, although I think Mascherano will be okay for Sunday but we will have to see.
 
"The news we have on Torres is that it is a hamstring injury. I need to talk to the doctor but I think he will miss this game. Normally it is a week when a player goes off like this.
 
"It is a big problem for us."

Daniel Agger, Andriy Voronin, Alvaro Arbeloa, Fabio Aurelio and the suspended Xabi Alonso are all out of the game at Stamford Bridge, leaving Rafa and the Reds firmly on the back foot.

Just typical a meaningless friendly and we lose one of our star players sod the international games,hope its not to serious we dont want to be relying on Kuyt for goals do we?

Saw this on SSN this morning.

GUTTED

I thought if anyone was going to score against Chelsea, it would be him!

Agree Brian....hope Babel gets the nod to lead the line now. He needs this moment. Rafa has to show that he trusts him.....might be the making of him.

JP has to play as he has always done great against VD Cole.

Need a positive result to get the boys up and running again.

They have just reported on Setanta that Torres will be out for about 10 days and will miss the Chelsea game on Sunday as well as probably the Inter Milan game at Anfield.


Benitez is absolutely furious about this and quite right to.......as if we haven't got enough problems at the minute, real devastating blow this......

From my complex calculations. Today is the 7th and he is out for 10 days, the inter milan game is on the 19th, therefore he will be back for that match.

Just typical a meaningless friendly and we lose one of our star players sod the international games,hope its not to serious we dont want to be relying on Kuyt for goals do we?

Second time Torres has got injured on intl duty - same happened last time...

This news (however serious or not the injury might be) is why I just can't quite get into the spirit of international matches especially when they're pointless friendlies in the middle of an action packed season. My first concerns last night were for Gerrard and Crouchy as they played for England. It had slipped my notice that there were other games with our players representing their countries so when I heard about Torres being injured it was a bit of a surprise for sure!

One of our prized assets is now in a race to be fit for Sunday and unless it is a minor injury that will heal in time I wouldn't even expect to see Torres on the bench. Rafa knows the importance securing 4th spot this season and also the prestige of the FA Cup and the Champions League.
He won't risk Torres against the Chavs. (unless he's fit obviously but then it won't be a risk!  :) We have enough fire-power with Crouchy, Gerrard, Babel, Bennayoun and Kuyt and Lucas if they have their shooting boots on. If Sami is selected he can also pop up with a goal too. Risse might, just might remember where the net is too as he has a decent record against the Chavs.

Back to Rafa's dismay and I agree whole-heartedly with him when he says internationals should not interfere with the domestic season - What good is it if you have players injured and then half a dozen players in the four corners of the globe having a pointless kick-about? Compensation doesn't compensate for anything when the player's is laid up injured missing crucial league and cup games.

Club not country, every time.

Best wishes for a speedy recovery 'Nando. 

if he is out of the chelsea match *touches wood that he isn't* It is likely we will play a 4-5-1 with gerrard just behind crouch.

That's my guess too, suffocate the Chavs in the middle of the park and don't give 'em an inch.

To be fair to Torres as soon as he felt it he didn't run another inch to avoid further damage.

I don't think (and certainly hope) it's not as serious as it sounds - he wasn't in terrible pain - but he did feel a definate twinge which is why he immediately asked to come off and slowly walked off holding his the top of his thigh.

TORRES INJURY CONFIRMED
 
Steve Hunter 07 February 2008 

  Liverpool have confirmed that Fernando Torres has suffered a hamstring tear in his right leg sustained playing for Spain in their international friendly win over France. 
The Reds number nine lasted just 23 minutes of the 1-0 victory over Les Bleus before he was forced to leave the field.
 
Liverpool FC spokesman Ian Cotton said: "Fernando was examined by medical staff when he returned to Melwood.
 
"A scan later confirmed their diagnosis that he suffered a hamstring tear in his right leg. Fernando is expected to be out for approximately 10 days."
 
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Setanta hopefully are wrong with their report........just trying to stir it up and cause trouble......

We can't manage without Torres for the Inter Milan game.....so lil cisse hope you're right and he will be fit and raring to go by the 19th.

Get better and fit soon Fernando

Rafa wont risk him like against arsenal as it just made it worse last time and was out for near on a month. And we have kuyt i mean its not like he has trouble scoring from distances as close as 6 yards




Yh were screwed if torres dont play. this is crouch', babel' and kuyt's chance to prove they deserve to be torres' partner.

I like it when we are underdogs because it makes the victory much sweeter:)

This is a total kick in the bollocks.
And why the F**k are there International friendlies in probably the most busiest part of the domestic season? With FA Cup games, Premiership games and Champions League games to be soon comming up.. why the F**k are there pointless International games in between them?

Benitez is right, when you go on International duty the players training changes, their diets change and there workouts are a lot different.. what the F**k is the point in this?

Is it not possible for Benitez or any manager to put International restrictions on there football players during the domestic season if NOT an important game for their countries.. eg like friendlies as we know they are NOT important.

It is a kick in the bollocks without a doubt. But this is a chance for us not to rely on Torres. I've been worried for a while now we're becoming to reliant on him - like we have been for a good few seasons with Gerrard.

Whoever is picked to play upfront while he is out injured, I expect them to be trying their best to show we're not a one striker team.

It is a kick in the bollocks without a doubt. But this is a chance for us not to rely on Torres. I've been worried for a while now we're becoming to reliant on him - like we have been for a good few seasons with Gerrard.

Whoever is picked to play upfront while he is out injured, I expect them to be trying their best to show we're not a one striker team.

I think this is the reality check needed though, we are a one man striker team. And it's obvious out of all our players that in this moment, making something happen, Fernando Torres is the name we look to because he is the danger man for any opposition team.

I don't think we rely on Torres, not at all actually but I do think he is the player whos been keeping us up there. I think we rely on Gerrard, but Torres is the man who we have to thank right now.

Until we get more quality in the final third, then we can relax more when a key attacking player is absent. For example if Tevez gets injured then Man Utd still got Rooney, Saha & Ronaldo for attacking threat.. who we got? Kuyt? Voronin? In the final third our players lack that champion standard, this is where we need to improve most so we need quality players who can cover injurys such as Villa, Silva etc.. not Kuyt or Crouch

GRRRRR. So annoying.

Red I agree, I don't mind internationals, but not friendlies in the middle of the week! Especially when City are doing ok (ok, we lost on Sat, but we went 10 games previously without losing and were playing some quality football). Luckily none of our players got injured (all 3 or 4 of them who play for Wales ) but luckily is the word.

10 days isn't as bad as I first imagined, I was imagining 4 weeks or more!

I don't think we rely on Torres, not at all actually but I do think he is the player whos been keeping us up there.

Isn't that just the same as relying on a player?

Torres is injured..its bad news but..... We beat chelsea before without Torres and I'm sure we will do it again..Have some faith for God sake..what is wrong with some people in here, we lost Torres and we suddenly become useless against Chelsea??...Nahh..1-2 for the reds still! Come On Lads, and Torres rest and get fit for the Inter game..

Lot's of goal we score Vs chelsea were score by other players then our strikers..so why should it be different ??..Come on Reds, prove some here wrong..

Isn't that just the same as relying on a player?

Nope. We don't play route one football straight to him, we don't just look towards him and rely on him getting us the results.. but every now and then in the game he'll get the ball and just make something happen. It's not the same as relying on him, he's just a class act who'll make something out of nothing happen and thats what he's done in plenty of games.

Nope. We don't play route one football straight to him, we don't just look towards him and rely on him getting us the results.. but every now and then in the game he'll get the ball and just make something happen. It's not the same as relying on him, he's just a class act who'll make something out of nothing happen and thats what he's done in plenty of games.

Nope.

We don't usually route one to him. Route one-ing a player isn't relying on him. That's hit and hope. Although I recall Reina setting him up for a goal...

You can't say we don't look towards him though because we do. If you watch the passes to Torres you'll see they are deliberate in the hope he'll make something happen. That's relying on his ability.

Out of all the strikers we have, you'd have Torres in there first wouldn't you? Who's come up with the goods most this season for us? I think you've missed my original point of relying on Torres.

We rely on him and that's why people are not happy he's injured. Now's a chance for other players to prove we are not a one striker team.

Just heard that El-Nino could be out for 3 games if true it's a drag as the next two games could or will make or break our season also Mascha may miss Chealski game,gets worse still where there's life there's hope....

I hope that nino kid would'nt miss Italian job.Who should replace him against chelsea??Kuyt??Voronin(injured)??Babel??
plsss....no 4-5-1 and put crouch in-front lonely....

Just heard that El-Nino could be out for 3 games if true it's a drag as the next two games could or will make or break our season also Mascha may miss Chealski game,gets worse still where there's life there's hope....

Radio Merseyside reckon Torres will be out for the Chelsea and Barnsley games.I think RAFA will play Babel up front and he will surprise Chelsea with his speed and get us the 3 points.It seems Arbeloa,Aurelio and Alonso will also miss the game so it is time for the lads to prove their worth,wonder if Insua will get a run or J.A.R. will play left back.

From LFC Website

Liverpool have confirmed that Fernando Torres has suffered a hamstring tear in his right leg sustained playing for Spain in their international friendly win over France. 
The Reds number nine lasted just 23 minutes of the 1-0 victory over Les Bleus before he was forced to leave the field.
 
Liverpool FC spokesman Ian Cotton said: "Fernando was examined by medical staff when he returned to Melwood.
 
"A scan later confirmed their diagnosis that he suffered a hamstring tear in his right leg. Fernando is expected to be out for approximately 10 days."  

I reckon we'll play 4-5-1 with Crouch up front for the Chelski game.  Barnsley should not be a concern but I just hope he is fit for the Inter game.

depends on how bad the pull was. He could be back in a week to 10 days which would be around the 16th which would be in time for Inter. Get him into one of those oxegen tanks everyday speed up the recovery!!

Time for Babel upfront against the chavs then. Unlike most on here I haven't wanted to see them together as I think they're too similar, but with Torres out the pace of Babel is a must.

As mentioned above, maybe its time for the 'back up' strikers to show their worth or perish...or for Ryan Babel to step into the spotlight and show just what we all know he is capable of.

No excuses Sunday evening, our team can stand toe to toe with any other in the prem and its time they proved it. At the moment we lack genuine quality in the final third (Mr Torres excluded), but that doesn't mean that we are dead and buried even before kick-off.

Babel is the man for me, he's got to step up and play with more confidence. If he does, he will be lethal. At the back, we need more solidity on our defence of set pieces, which has suddenly become an area of concern this season.

I'm quietly confident that we can confound the critics and shatter Chelski's glittering home record.

From LFC Website

Rafa Benitez is backing Dirk Kuyt to fill Fernando Torres' boots over the coming weeks. 
Liverpool will be without their top scorer for 10 days due to a hamstring injury sustained on international duty this week.
 
Of immediate concern is Sunday's trip to Stamford Bridge, a venue the Reds rarely leave with anything at the best of times.
 
Benitez, though, is hopeful Kuyt – who by his own admission has struggled in front of goal of late – can step up to the plate.
 
"He has scored some goals," said the Liverpool boss. "If you look at his record in Holland he always scored a lot of goals, but here he is doing a good job for the team."
 
Holland coach Marco van Basten left Kuyt out of his squad for only the second time this week.
 
The striker's response, according to Benitez, has been entirely as expected.
 
The Spaniard said: "He has been training really well for us and that is the kind of reaction you want from a player.
 
"Kuyt is a fantastic professional."

Well it could be mind games but I hope Rafa is no serious about this.  Kuyt has not shown any indication lately that he can fill Torres's boots.  I think any Crouch/Babel altenative would be preferable.   

Ryan Babel is a doubt for the game aswell by the way. He picked up a small ankle injury in the holland match.

Ryan Babel is a doubt for the game aswell by the way. He picked up a small ankle injury in the holland match.

i dont believe this. its not certain tho is it?

I read it on football 365 and they normally get our injury updates correct.

Well it was'nt as if torres would have played against barnsley anyway so thats no loss and we beat chelsea without him and kuyt always does well against them so i think 2-1, 1-0 dwn but then kuyt will score and gerrard will get the winner in the 85th minute

Or if i am really optimistic Carragher will get a hat trick

Torres is injured. He's no good to us while he's injured.

His thread is here: http://www.lfcreds.com/reds/index.php/topic,3266.0.html