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      jakkeo
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      Ronaldinho or Eto'o?
      Jun 18, 2008 12:42:47 pm
      with the news that Guardiola has said that Ronaldinho, Eto'o, and Deco can leave the club, maybe we should be stating an interest in these players? if they are no longer needed then they might be a bit cheaper and you cant say Ronaldinho or eto'o wont improve the side. Maybe not so much Deco but I do think we should be looking at Eto'o if we cant get Villa. Ronaldinho can play all across the midfield and maybe could solve the winger problem? surely he would prefer us than Man city.
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      Reply #1: Jun 18, 2008 12:46:36 pm
      Personaly I'm not sure Ronaldinho would suit the premier league especially liverpool.

       We like to play at a very high tempo compared with la liga and for me Ronaldinho doesn't suit that style.

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      Reply #2: Jun 18, 2008 12:51:00 pm
      I would buy Ronaldinho 'cos we need a v.good winger and playmaker.
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      Reply #3: Jun 18, 2008 12:56:42 pm
      Why do you think they're letting Ronaldinho go? Because he's lost it. The story is that he argued with management, saying he was out in clubs all night when he won World Player of the Year! Then celebrates a goal, gets his top off and sports an ale gut comparable to half the fans! :D

      I don't think this league suits him. He wouldn't get a second to do all of these skills that he so often uses to get onto the Showboat bit on Soccer AM! Take those skills off him and he's not a good footballer. He scores the odd goal, but not like he used to. And that was in Spain. When you get about ten years on the ball to make a move.

      If he does come over here, it'll be with Man City. And he'll shine in a relatively mediocre team. And everyone will want to sign him again! ::) ;)

      And I really don't think that Eto'o is the goal machine everyone thinks he is. Leave them be! :D Just keep going for Villa! ;)
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      Reply #4: Jun 18, 2008 01:02:51 pm
      Why do you think they're letting Ronaldinho go? Because he's lost it. The story is that he argued with management, saying he was out in clubs all night when he won World Player of the Year! Then celebrates a goal, gets his top off and sports an ale gut comparable to half the fans! :D
       
      I don't think this league suits him. He wouldn't get a second to do all of these skills that he so often uses to get onto the Showboat bit on Soccer AM! Take those skills off him and he's not a good footballer. He scores the odd goal, but not like he used to. And that was in Spain. When you get about ten years on the ball to make a move.

      If he does come over here, it'll be with Man City. And he'll shine in a relatively mediocre team. And everyone will want to sign him again! ::) ;)

      And I really don't think that Eto'o is the goal machine everyone thinks he is. Leave them be! :D Just keep going for Villa! ;)
      Now with your post I'm thinking to change my mind. ;)
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      Reply #5: Jun 18, 2008 01:04:59 pm
      if he could recapture his past form then i think we should deffo go for him. I think he could make it in this league remember when he tore chelsea apart albeit in the champions league, he probably wont be able to do all the skills he does but i think a player of his quality would be a big improvement on what we have to offer on the wing now also hes only 27, the same age as Barry, £20 million on Barry or Ronaldinho? i know what id spend it on. Also Eto'os goalscoring record for Barcelona over the past 3 years:

      2005-2006: 45 appearances 32 goals
      2006-2007:  24 appearances 13 goals
      2007-2008:  24 appearances 20 goals

      that's 65 goals in 93 appearances

      bit of a goal machine in my opinion ;)
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      Reply #6: Jun 18, 2008 01:10:34 pm
      if he could recapture his past form then I think we should deffo go for him. I think he could make it in this league remember when he tore chelsea apart albeit in the champions league, he probably wont be able to do all the skills he does but I think a player of his quality would be a big improvement on what we have to offer on the wing now also hes only 27, the same age as Barry, £20 million on Barry or Ronaldinho? I know what id spend it on. Also Eto'os goalscoring record for Barcelona over the past 3 years:

      2005-2006: 45 appearances 32 goals
      2006-2007:  24 appearances 13 goals
      2007-2008:  24 appearances 20 goals

      that's 65 goals in 93 appearances

      bit of a goal machine in my opinion ;)


      Morientes was a fantastic goal getter, in various leagues too. But the English league proved too much for him. I though this was maybe because he was at the end of his career, but then he recaptured that form at Valencia.

      The two leagues are worlds apart. If you make it here then it's a much bigger feat than in Spain, and until then I don't think there can be many predictions on how well he would do here.

      I'd love him to come over and prove me wrong though, I'd hold my hands up and say I was wrong in thinking that. (For Liverpool of course ;))
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      Reply #7: Jun 18, 2008 01:11:27 pm
      He isn't suited to our style of play, I rather go with a Barry or maybe Giovinco/Balotelli.
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      Reply #8: Jun 18, 2008 01:14:06 pm
      No to both I'm afraid.

      Ronaldinho hasn't done anything for the past couple of seasons, he's living of reputation. Would turn out to be a flop I'm sure of it.

      There's no doubting Eto'o is a brilliant player, but Guardiola's getting rid for a reason, and that reason is that no one man is begger than the team. Every dressing room spat at Barca has had Eto'o slap bang in the middle of it, I don't care how many goals he could get if he effects the morale of the rest of the team then he isn't worth it. Also isn't his court case still ongoing? Bit risky to buy a player who could be getting five years ???
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      Reply #9: Jun 18, 2008 01:20:47 pm
      didn't know about a court case eddie  :o whats it over? also how much is the fee that Ronaldinho is going to Man city for? it cant be that much, around £15 million or something is it? even though his wages are apparently £200,000 I wouldn't give him that much money but id rather have Ronaldinho than Barry for £15-£20 million .

      I see what you mean County  ;D

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      Reply #10: Jun 18, 2008 01:26:20 pm

      What do you think? Atleast 3 burgers a day?
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      Reply #11: Jun 18, 2008 01:35:01 pm
      didn't know about a court case eddie  :o whats it over? also how much is the fee that Ronaldinho is going to Man city for? it cant be that much, around £15 million or something is it? even though his wages are apparently £200,000 I wouldn't give him that much money but id rather have Ronaldinho than Barry for £15-£20 million .

      I see what you mean County  ;D



      Fat f*cker! 8)

      If he wanted £200,000 a week off us I'd hit the deck laughing. He's only going to get money like that off some gobs***e clubs who want their stadiums filling up again (Man City, LA Galaxy)

      In no way would he improve us as a team.
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      Reply #12: Jun 18, 2008 02:29:45 pm
      didn't know about a court case eddie  :o whats it over?

      He's up in court in Cameroon for headbutting a journalist.
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      Reply #13: Jun 18, 2008 03:07:21 pm
      ha ha we all like a bit of aggression in a player tho
      especially in the prem.
      No doubt Ronaldinho has the quality but the stamina and being able to adapt im really not sure about
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      Reply #14: Jun 18, 2008 03:14:59 pm
      Last year there was a debate on whether we should get Eto'o or Villa.

      Now Eto'o has come up again I'd just have to say we have already got the better of the two.

      Fernando Torres!

       
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      Reply #15: Jun 18, 2008 03:17:36 pm
      still surely Darth Joe you would rather have Torres and Villa or Eto
      than just torres on his own.
      I do agree that Torres is better than them two tho.
      Would still f***in love us to get someone class like Villa to accompany him upfront tho
      :D
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      Reply #16: Jun 18, 2008 03:22:08 pm
      I have to admit I was pretty keen on the idea of Eto'o before we got Nando, but his actions over the last season have put me right off him. Even though Barca have said he can go they won't let him go for peanuts, would much rather look at someone else.
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      Reply #17: Jun 18, 2008 04:12:42 pm
      Why do you think they're letting Ronaldinho go? Because he's lost it. The story is that he argued with management, saying he was out in clubs all night when he won World Player of the Year! Then celebrates a goal, gets his top off and sports an ale gut comparable to half the fans! :D

      I don't think this league suits him. He wouldn't get a second to do all of these skills that he so often uses to get onto the Showboat bit on Soccer AM! Take those skills off him and he's not a good footballer. He scores the odd goal, but not like he used to. And that was in Spain. When you get about ten years on the ball to make a move.

      If he does come over here, it'll be with Man City. And he'll shine in a relatively mediocre team. And everyone will want to sign him again! ::) ;)

      And I really don't think that Eto'o is the goal machine everyone thinks he is. Leave them be! :D Just keep going for Villa! ;)

      I agree with you totally on this assessment, I do think that players who have done it all so to speak often lose their edge when a chance to change comes along. It maybe for just a season or so but to be honest I really think these 2 will be so overpriced for what they are right now Rafa may not want to take the chance and we probably couldnt afford them anyway.
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      Reply #18: Jun 18, 2008 04:34:14 pm
      The question is eto'o or ronaldinho... i would pick ronaldinho but this is only if they were free personaly i think that spending any money on them is wasting the david villa fund
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      Reply #19: Jun 18, 2008 05:14:36 pm
      I would choose Eto'o.

      Ronaldinho was near on untouchable a few years ago and was even getting applauded by the mardid fans because of the way he tore them apart. But these last 2 seasons he has gone down hill, to me it seems as if hid ego has completely taken control and gotten too big for his own boots. If we signed him i honestly think that he would clash with either Carra or Stevie, maybe even Rafa.

      Eto'o has a great scoring record and he likes the ball played into his feet, abit like Nando does so i think he would fit into our style of play. Quick, strong, and good work rate. The only downside with him is he tends to lose his temper a bit and get silly bookings but thats nothing Rafa would'nt be able to sort out ;)
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      Reply #20: Jun 18, 2008 05:35:29 pm
      Neither. Would rather buy villa to help torres out or quaresma for the wing but apparently were getting the highly rated winger, James Milner  :o ??? so were sorted  :lmao:
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      Reply #21: Jun 18, 2008 06:16:26 pm
      I think if we were to get Ronaldinho we would be sorted financially for the shirt sales in the far east would go through the roof just like madrids did when they got Beckham . But does anyone now what Barcelona want for him ?
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      Reply #22: Jun 18, 2008 06:18:00 pm
      But does anyone now what Barcelona want for him ?

      Probably want £20+ million for him
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      Reply #23: Jun 18, 2008 06:28:45 pm
      Same as barry then ! Ouch .
      I would love to see him at anfield back to his best ,and running rings round Manure but £20+ million would be an expensive gamble,especially if he didnt get back to his best.
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      Reply #24: Jun 18, 2008 06:49:56 pm
      After seeing those pictures posted of him i think he would miss the first half of a season at a health farm? A firm no to Ronaldinho for me.
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      Reply #25: Jun 18, 2008 07:10:57 pm
      Eto'o - to much of an attitude.

      Ronaldinho - wages too high. Find it comic people think he's past it though, still a phenominal and world class player just needs a new challenge. Would improve us vastly, as for that picture, look up when that picture is actually from. He isnt past it atall, still one of the most dangerous players on the planet.
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      Reply #26: Jun 18, 2008 07:26:30 pm
      I agree with Cisse, hes still only the same age as Gerrard, 28. We could still get 4 more years out of him if he gets back to his best. We also seem to waste an awful lot of free kicks, he could also solve this problem.
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      Reply #27: Jun 18, 2008 07:57:24 pm
      If these three were performing and not show boating do you think Barca would be so willing to invite offers ,if they are not good enough for them then they certainly are not good enough for us ,also could you see RAFA putting up with lazy players and causing unrest in the dressing room ,i dont think so.
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      Reply #28: Jun 18, 2008 10:39:16 pm
      Ronaldinho - no way, not for a smart guy like Benitez. Brasilian players that go for 30 are dangerous, esp. if they already had success. They have far too much of an easygoing (south american) mentality that doesn't suit the tough PL conditions.

      Eto'o has too much attitude & personality. That's not good for our team that hasn't any "ego's" yet (which is good).

      Both guys I wouldn't take, even if they are inexpensive. Both guys I suppose to be potential team cancers.

      Don't let yourself get fooled by trademark-names...it's on the pitch and if you would buy Platini, Beckenbauer, Pele and Socrates you may would have a tremendous squad, but you would still lose vs. Liverpools youth team. I hope you get my point. Ronaldinho and Eto'o once were world class...but now?!?
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      Reply #29: Jun 18, 2008 11:31:10 pm
      Definately not Ronaldinho, it doesn't matter how much he will cost? It's how much the entire deal including wages will total, and it would be a very very expensive signing.  It would jeopordise our already financially unstable situation and would have an effect on our others top stars future contracts.  He was brilliant maybe he might just have another one season of brilliance in him but for about a 40m wage contract and his signing fee, no not worth it.  Personally I'm not in favour of bringing in a world class striker apart from David Villa as I strongly feel that first priority must be to bring in two quality wingers.
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      Reply #30: Jun 19, 2008 10:06:49 am
      have we even got money for them !!
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      Reply #31: Jun 19, 2008 10:16:27 am
      Why do you think they're letting Ronaldinho go? Because he's lost it. The story is that he argued with management, saying he was out in clubs all night when he won World Player of the Year! Then celebrates a goal, gets his top off and sports an ale gut comparable to half the fans! :D

      I don't think this league suits him. He wouldn't get a second to do all of these skills that he so often uses to get onto the Showboat bit on Soccer AM! Take those skills off him and he's not a good footballer. He scores the odd goal, but not like he used to. And that was in Spain. When you get about ten years on the ball to make a move.

      If he does come over here, it'll be with Man City. And he'll shine in a relatively mediocre team. And everyone will want to sign him again! ::) ;)

      And I really don't think that Eto'o is the goal machine everyone thinks he is. Leave them be! :D Just keep going for Villa! ;)

      I'm just going to use your post, cause it's pretty much word for word what I wanted to say anyway.

      Ronaldinho has lost it. Eto'o just doesn't have the "Rafa attitude" playing for the team rather than yourself. I wouldn't be thrilled with either signings to be honest.
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      Reply #32: Jun 20, 2008 07:17:07 pm
      no brainer this one.Ronaldinho is more interested in partying than football.

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