Trending Topics

      Next match: LFC v Spurs [Premier League] Sun 5th May @ 4:30 pm
      Anfield

      Today is the 28th of April and on this date LFC's match record is P27 W14 D8 L5

      Wigan Boss In Dig At Ferguson

      Read 3210 times
      0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.
      HUYTON RED
      • Forum Legend - Shankly
      • ******
      • Started Topic

      • 40,235 posts | 8573 
      Wigan Boss In Dig At Ferguson
      Oct 28, 2009 01:30:38 am
      Roberto Martínez accuses the FA of being intimidated by Sir Alex Ferguson
      Sid Lowe in Madrid Tuesday 27 October 2009

      • They are almost apologising for punishing him, says Martínez
      • Manager not expecting Ferguson to be severely sanctioned

      Roberto Martínez has accused the English football authorities of being intimidated by Sir Alex Ferguson, saying that the Scot is treated differently to other managers in the game. The Wigan Athletic manager insisted that his Manchester United counterpart is allowed to get away with more than his Premier League rivals, who would be "crushed" for committing the same crimes, and is protected by a cabal of coaches who court his favour.

      Ferguson has admitted a charge of improper conduct over remarks he made about the referee Alan Wiley following this month's 2-2 draw with Sunderland at Old Trafford. He has apologised for causing Wiley "personal embarrassment" by questioning his fitness and there have been calls for him to be handed a lengthy touchline ban. He also courted controversy over his suggestion that Andre Marriner lacked the experience to referee Sunday's 2-0 defeat at Liverpool. But Martínez expressed doubts that the punishment handed down will be as severe as that meted out to other coaches, as there is little appetite for taking Ferguson to task.

      "They have just sanctioned Ferguson for saying that referee was not fit enough and the truth is that they're almost apologising to him for punishing him," Martínez said. "Any other coach would have been crushed for that." Asked if Ferguson dictates English football, Martínez told the Spanish paper AS: "Yes, a lot." He added: "Ferguson has been here for a lifetime and that carries a lot of weight."

      Martínez believes that Ferguson's position is strengthened by a group of disciples whom the Scot cultivates as loyal allies against his enemies such as the Liverpool coach, Rafael Benítez. There was a hint, too, that Martínez suspects Ferguson dangles the carrot of Old Trafford succession before the eyes of those loyal to him.

      In April Ferguson attacked Benítez for having previously described "The Chosen One"'s Everton as a "small club" and for showing "contempt" for opponents with a gesture he made on the touchline during a 4-0 victory over Sam Allardyce's Blackburn Rovers. Allardyce complained Benítez's gesture was humiliating – but only after Ferguson spoke out. He made no comment after the game about a signal Benítez said was a self-deprecating one to his own team.

      Allardyce and Moyes are close friends of Ferguson. Moyes has been widely touted as a candidate for Ferguson's job when he retires while Martínez believes Allardyce has designs on the post, too. "Ferguson has his group of faithfuls, people who are committed to him: Steve Bruce, who was a player with him, Sam Allardyce, who thinks he will be his successor at Old Trafford, and others," Martínez said. "On the other side there's Rafa Benítez and he gets attacked from all sides."

      The Football Association is being urged to commit Ferguson to an official agreement that he will curtail his criticism of referees. Ferguson has requested a personal hearing at which he will apologise again for accusing Wiley of booking players because he needed a rest from running but Alan Leighton, the national secretary of the trade union Prospect, of which referees are members, wants the FA to make an example of Ferguson.

      "We welcome the fact that he [Ferguson] has admitted his guilt and hope he will now dedicate himself to furthering the Respect agenda," said Leighton. "If I was someone on the [FA disciplinary] panel I might be asking him for a commitment not to do the same thing again."


      http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/oct/27/roberto-martinez-sir-alex-ferguson

      I would F***ing love it if Allardyce got the manc job when Fergie's full blown alcoholism finally kicks in!
      Dmasta
      • Forum Legend - Paisley
      • *****

      • 10,895 posts | 553 
      Re: Wigan Boss In Dig At Ferguson
      Reply #1: Oct 28, 2009 01:35:09 am
      Telling it like it is Martinez.
      Dadorious
      • Forum Legend - Dalglish
      • *****

      • 9,882 posts | 1545 
      Re: Wigan Boss In Dig At Ferguson
      Reply #2: Oct 28, 2009 02:26:28 am
      Well said Martinez my respect for you has sky rocketed.
      Diego LFC
      • Forum Legend - Paisley
      • *****

      • 19,332 posts | 2832 
      • Sempre Liverpool
      Re: Wigan Boss In Dig At Ferguson
      Reply #3: Oct 28, 2009 05:44:39 am
      I F***ing love Martinez, now even more.
      Eem
      • Forum Legend - Dalglish
      • *****

      • 6,018 posts | 89 
      Re: Wigan Boss In Dig At Ferguson
      Reply #4: Oct 28, 2009 08:04:21 am
      Well said Martinez. Finally someones not blinded by the light that shines out of Fergies arse.
      crouchinho
      • Forum Legend - Shankly
      • ******

      • 42,508 posts | 2620 
      • TU TA LOUCO? FILHO DA PUTA!
      Re: Wigan Boss In Dig At Ferguson
      Reply #5: Oct 28, 2009 08:31:38 am
      Martinez and Benitez may be drinking on some Sangria come seasons end.
      Billy1
      • Forum Legend - Paisley
      • *****

      • 10,638 posts | 1966 
      Re: Wigan Boss In Dig At Ferguson
      Reply #6: Oct 28, 2009 09:20:40 am
       I say all credit to the man for having the guts to tell the truth,the only people who do not like it will be Ferguson and his henchmen.
      RedPuppy
      • Still European.
      • LFC Reds Subscriber
      • ******
      • 19,253 posts | 2855 
      • Parum Rutilus Canis: Illegitimi non carborundum
      Re: Wigan Boss In Dig At Ferguson
      Reply #7: Oct 28, 2009 10:12:59 am
      Excellent view point, one which we all knew and echo.

      Our First Honorary Member?

      Iano92
      • Forum Ian Callaghan
      • ****

      • 958 posts |
      Re: Wigan Boss In Dig At Ferguson
      Reply #8: Oct 28, 2009 10:18:54 am
       :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: great pic.... In fairness though the FA will probable blame Rafa for this and give him a fine....
      JoeyLFC
      • Forum Kenny Dalglish
      • ****

      • 520 posts |
      Martinez backs Rafa over FA's Sir Alex treatment
      Reply #9: Oct 28, 2009 10:19:02 am
      Roberto Martinez: FA favour Sir Alex Ferguson
      Wigan manager Roberto Martinez claims Sir Alex Ferguson has the football authorities in England gripped by fear and that his fellow Spaniard Rafa Benitez has been unfairly treated by the Manchester United manager and a group of staunch allies.

      Martinez's complaint comes in the wake of Ferguson admitting an FA charge of improper conduct following his controversial comments about Alan Wiley's fitness earlier in the month. But the Wigan boss says any other manager in the Premier League would already have been 'crushed' by the governing body for making similar comments.

      The outburst from Martinez will no doubt strike a chord with Benitez, who last season infamously claimed that Ferguson received preferential treatment from the game's authorities as he attempted to lay bare the 'facts' that he said were favouring United.

      Benitez said in January: "During the Respect campaign - and this is a fact - Mr Ferguson was charged by the FA for improper conduct after comments made about Martin Atkinson and Keith Hackett. He was not punished. He is the only manager in the league that cannot be punished for these things."

      In April, Benitez was then criticised by Blackburn Rovers manager Sam Allardyce for making a "disrespectful" gesture during a game, with the Spaniard accused of waving his hands as if to suggest the tie was over as a contest when Liverpool scored a second goal in a 4-0 victory. Ferguson subsequently accused the Spaniard of showing "contempt" to Allardyce, even though Benitez said his gesture had been misinterpreted.

      Martinez now claims that Allardyce hopes to succeed Ferguson at United and that both he and Steve Bruce are willing allies of the United boss, who exercises too much power in the English game.

      "They (the FA) have just sanctioned Ferguson for saying that referee was not fit enough and the truth is that they're almost apologising to him for punishing him,'' Martinez told Spanish newspaper AS. "Any other coach would have been crushed for that.

      "Ferguson has been here for a lifetime and that carries a lot of weight. Ferguson has his group of faithfuls, people who are committed to him: Steve Bruce, who was a player with him, Sam Allardyce, who thinks he will be his successor at Old Trafford, and others. On the other side there's Rafa Benitez and he gets attacked from all sides."

      I think he's spot on. But the FA never seem to listen to any of this. Hopefully more people like Martinez speaking out against this will help, but I doubt it.
      Bpatel
      • Forum Legend - Dalglish
      • *****

      • 9,902 posts | 158 
      Re: Wigan Boss In Dig At Ferguson
      Reply #10: Oct 28, 2009 10:20:12 am
      Well done Mr Martinez for saying it as it is.

      Respect.
      bartman49
      • Forum Legend - Benitez
      • *****

      • 2,157 posts | 37 
      Re: Wigan Boss In Dig At Ferguson
      Reply #11: Oct 28, 2009 12:39:44 pm
      Did anyone notice how low key they made of the Martinez interview on Sky, deafening by the silence. Watch out Roberto you'll be their next target. Well said for saying it like you see it, your already twice the manager Allardyce will ever be, your teams play football the way it should be played. Good on you....
      paulrobbo
      • Forum Legend - Dalglish
      • *****

      • 6,875 posts | 106 
      • We are the Mods!
      Re: Wigan Boss In Dig At Ferguson
      Reply #12: Oct 28, 2009 12:42:13 pm
      And then there were two.

      Hopefully more to follow.
      HUYTON RED
      • Forum Legend - Shankly
      • ******
      • Started Topic

      • 40,235 posts | 8573 
      Re: Wigan Boss In Dig At Ferguson
      Reply #13: Oct 28, 2009 12:46:13 pm
      I wonder if he's had a bollocking off Dave Whelan yet for having the temerity to have a go at Dave's hero.
      Reslivo
      • Forum Legend - Paisley
      • *****

      • 14,490 posts | 521 
      Re: Wigan Boss In Dig At Ferguson
      Reply #14: Oct 28, 2009 12:48:31 pm
      Wenger seems to take Rafa's side too.
      whyohwhyohwhy
      • Forum Legend - Paisley
      • *****

      • 11,283 posts | 95 
      Re: Wigan Boss In Dig At Ferguson
      Reply #15: Oct 28, 2009 01:04:01 pm
      Hats off to you Roberto Martinez.  Well said!
      Brian78
      • Forum Legend - Paisley
      • *****

      • 19,265 posts | 2826 
      • A Liverbird upon my chest
      Re: Wigan Boss In Dig At Ferguson
      Reply #16: Oct 28, 2009 01:20:39 pm
      Fair play to the young manager. Finally someone other then Rafa with a set of balls to stand up and say what he thinks of Fergie. The Spanish armada has arrived!!

      Fergie is a scumbag bully. Jeff Winter was a bit damning of him yesterday as well. Is the tide turning on the oul c**t?
      Ross
      • Forum Legend - Paisley
      • *****

      • 19,916 posts | 165 
      Re: Wigan Boss In Dig At Ferguson
      Reply #17: Oct 28, 2009 01:23:48 pm
      Excellent view point, one which we all knew and echo.

      Our First Honorary Member?



      Brilliant!

      Well in Martinez.

      Anyone else wanna join in? You know it's right!
      jindaldhruv
      • Forum Legend - Fagan
      • *****

      • 3,805 posts | 24 
      • Football is my religion. Steven Gerrard is my God.
      Re: Wigan Boss In Dig At Ferguson
      Reply #18: Oct 28, 2009 02:04:15 pm
      Excellent view point, one which we all knew and echo.

      Our First Honorary Member?


      Great one!
      By the way, loved reading the article. He was spot on. Well done Martinez! Love this guy now..
      The Kopite91
      • Forum Legend - Fagan
      • *****

      • 3,654 posts | 246 
      Re: Wigan Boss In Dig At Ferguson
      Reply #19: Oct 28, 2009 04:07:56 pm
      Apparentlly he's denying the comments now? I hope he has more bottle than that. We'll soon see because no doubt ol' red nose will retaliate!
      RedLFCBlood
      • Guest
      Re: Wigan Boss In Dig At Ferguson
      Reply #20: Oct 28, 2009 04:23:44 pm
      Apparentlly he's denying the comments now? I hope he has more bottle than that. We'll soon see because no doubt ol' red nose will retaliate!

      He'll not be the first Johnnie Foreigner to get misquoted it happens to Babel every other week  :f_tongueincheek:

      How ever I really hope he did say all that as the more people that stands up to Fergie and his team whether it be through the media or on the pitch the better it is for us in Pursuit of the elusive 19th. :)
      Mr Wiggles
      • Forum Titi Camara
      • *

      • 37 posts |
      Re: Wigan Boss In Dig At Ferguson
      Reply #21: Oct 28, 2009 04:26:21 pm
      Well in,read it in the paper this mornin !
      RedPuppy
      • Still European.
      • LFC Reds Subscriber
      • ******
      • 19,253 posts | 2855 
      • Parum Rutilus Canis: Illegitimi non carborundum
      Re: Wigan Boss In Dig At Ferguson
      Reply #22: Oct 28, 2009 04:45:24 pm
      Apparentlly he's denying the comments now? I hope he has more bottle than that. We'll soon see because no doubt ol' red nose will retaliate!

      Hmm! Cheque must have arrived. Bloody Post Office.

      Quick Reply