Shake it up Rafa

So another p**s poor display against a side we should be battering. How long does continue for? Weve had half a season of it already. The time is now for Rafa to shake the team up, and himself wjile hes at it!

Example of why we need a shake up is Gerrard. What a player we all know that. But his form is crap, has been since we went out of the champions league. But hes a shoe in in Rafas 11. He scored today fair enough but overall was s**te. Drop him drop Kuyt drop Insua and I mean out of the squad for a few games. Let them realise they dont own a place in the team.

DROP STEVIE! Yes drop him why not were playing muck with him wont be any worse without him. Reading were hungrier today and thats very wrong. Our lads owe us themselves and the club a good run of games but they dont seem intented on giving them. The FA cup is an outlet for them to payback for the crap season to date. But no we see an equal game against a struggling championship side. We hoof the ball around the place and its not good enough for Liverpool

Rafa sort this out and sort it now

Agree about dropping Stevie I'd even drop him ahead of Kuyt because atleast his sh*t form hasn't been through lack of trying.

Entirely agree.

If there is some dressing room disharmony at the root of our poor performances then things need to be shaken up.  Watching Gerrard waltz around that pitch doing F**k all today was a joke.  I agree that Benitez needs to adopt a different strategy and get a lot more ruthless on some of the 'names' at the club.

Players seem to be getting on to the teamsheet based on their past performances.

Gerrard, Insua, Kuyt do not deserve to be shoe ins at all in that team.  I've heard that some off the field things may be affecting Gerrard - if that's the case then he either grows up and gets on with it, or he can sit out a few games.

If I was the manager and some of my bigger players were threatening my job by underperforming then I would be offering the chance for others to turn things around.

SG has scored key goals in two of our last 3 games. If we dropped him, even when not playing that well, we'd be truely fu**ed.
Who's going to score goals for us - Lucas ? Just an assist from him would be appreciated.

SG has scored key goals in two of our last 3 games. If we dropped him, even when not playing that well, we'd be truely fu**ed.

If he wasn't wasting one of our shirts we might not have needed 'key' goals.

If he wasn't wasting one of our shirts we might not have needed 'key' goals.

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 I've heard that some off the field things may be affecting Gerrard -

Im sorry to hear that I truly am. But if thats the case then its even more imperative to leave him out. I love Stevie but Liverpool is what comes first

blow me two shots on goal in the second half against a championship side. drop players who arent performing how long will torres stay in this enviroment he could have scored 20 goals playing for chelsea. stevie is past his best now never going to be the stevie of old

And start putting some more time and faith into the lads like Pacheco, Spearing etc. They have shown at times they can play damn good, and especially Pacheco, are deserving of a bit more than cameos. Pacheco could really be a game turner i feel.

Help..

So another p**s poor display against a side we should be battering. How long does continue for? Weve had half a season of it already. The time is now for Rafa to shake the team up, and himself wjile hes at it!

Example of why we need a shake up is Gerrard. What a player we all know that. But his form is crap, has been since we went out of the champions league. But hes a shoe in in Rafas 11. He scored today fair enough but overall was s**te. Drop him drop Kuyt drop Insua and I mean out of the squad for a few games. Let them realise they dont own a place in the team.

DROP STEVIE! Yes drop him why not were playing muck with him wont be any worse without him. Reading were hungrier today and thats very wrong. Our lads owe us themselves and the club a good run of games but they dont seem intented on giving them. The FA cup is an outlet for them to payback for the crap season to date. But no we see an equal game against a struggling championship side. We hoof the ball around the place and its not good enough for Liverpool

Rafa sort this out and sort it now

Yes Gerrards form is  not good but the are 3 or 4 players a lot worse than Stevie and even when he plays poorly 1 pass will lead to a goal or he will pop up and get one himself.

Was actually going to make a topic like this myself, couldn't agree more

Too right Brian that was an utterly dissapointing affair even by our own sh*t standards this term ,had to trudge home in the snow truly pissed off by what i see as players not dying for the shirt and that shouldn,t be allowed to happen in any circumstances .
Dont know whats up but it is glaringly obvious that something is.

Silly comments about Gerrard being past his best. Will you be saying that when his form changes? I doubt it.

But to drop anyone who is out of form should definitely be considered. It might wake people up.

Mainly I would get Aurelio in at left back as he is more solid than Insua, more aware and can actually pass to a red shirt. Kuyt could e dropped if we actually had a right winger...

Gerrard has nothing to play for this season now, it's as simple as that. He will take no pride in winning the FA Cup or the Europa League because he's been there, done that and probably thinks himself too good for those competitions. He wants the Premiership and Champions League, and to be honest always has. So now his best chance of glory this year is the World Cup with England, he's not gonna risk losing that chance by putting himself into the 50/50 challenges he used to or the gut bursting runs he's capable of. Just look at the difference in his celebrations between tonight's goal and the one he scored the other week against Wolves. 

Some of the other players simply rely too heavily on Gerrard. When he's there, they expect him to produce the magic he's done so often in the past. They don't take the responsibility, instead they pass it on to Gerrard who is walking round with a face like a slapped arse.

The rest of the players just aren't good enough. And unfortunately that's been the case of this club for far too long. Quite a fair of bit the squad not actually being good enough.

So a shake up is needed. "Star" names do need dropping because it's all about current form, not what they've done in the past. It's about what they're doing in the present.

Him and Kuyt shouldn't have played today imo, Pacheco and Eccleston would have been better as they'd want to impress and fight for a possible place.

Him and Kuyt shouldn't have played today imo, Pacheco and Eccleston would have been better as they'd want to impress and fight for a possible place.

But if Raffa had have played Eccleston and Pacheco and we drew the it would have been we should have played Gerrard and Kuyt

Don't know whether our reserves would have been up to the rigours of that match - even though they are good it may have been too much.  But I agree Stevie does need a kick up the jacksie!!

But if Raffa had have played Eccleston and Pacheco and we drew the it would have been we should have played Gerrard and Kuyt

Would we have drawn though? We shall never know...

I think Kuyt will be dropped if Maxi does come on loan but i think Stevie just needs to switch to LM cause dropping him would destroy morale and would put Rafa's head on the chopping block if it fails.. It is very easy for us to sit here and type these great ideas but it doesn't fall back on us when it fails and not many of you are looking at it in that way. As for Insua he just needs to learn and isn't ready yet....

The more I watch us this season the more I begin to think...

are we turning into a simply counter-attack team? We never seem to dominate games anymore, we seem to let the opposition have possession.

Aurelio needs to be at LB, he's much better than Insua, and he's shown that every match.

Keep Pepe and drop the lot of them. They have all been getting away with sh*t displays for too long.........where's me boots!