Regardless of how poor he is as a player, I'd probably go as far as safely saying he's miles above anyone on here who posts in terms of footballing ability. We might exaggerate and say he's sh*t but what we mean is he's sh*t in comparison to the high standards we set of players who want to play for LFC. I'm sure me, you and the majority of people who post on here are actually genuinely sh*t players in the grand scheme of professional football (don't forget LFC sets a very high bar) - the lad will cut it at a decent level and we can all agree on that (I think he'd even cut it at this level but that's just me), the same couldn't be said about "any of us". Of course, we'd show those qualities, the mere fact we're posting on a forum about LFC pretty much says we're quite passionate about the club, so naturally we'd give 120%.
So having desire, work-rate and commitment and being awful simply won't be enough for someone like me or you to get by at LFC. He's no mug, the lad isn't sh*t - he might not be good enough for us but you don't play at such a high level by being terrible. So those three attributes do matter for professional footballers such as Jova. You can't say "well even I'd show those attributes" because there's a decent chance that you don't even have enough talent to cut it at League One standard. Of course there's always the possibility you're Steven Gerrard posting, but I'm sure that's not the case for the majority of us.
If we don't know his ballpark wages figure and are saying that we're only speculating based on media reports, then you're well within your right to say such a thing. Don't then do the exact same thing and think your example is any more valid than mine though. Pick a side and stick with it, either we can get a ballpark figure or we can't, we either can use it as a stick to measure him with or we can't. Regardless, common sense would dictate that because we're not playing him and the fact he's surely obviously on a wage greater than £35k a week (that's the absolute lowest figure I've seen reported), we're not getting any value from him. If he was playing, we could measure things a bit better - yes. Again, I see the merit in wanting to sell him as we're getting a sh*t return for whatever figure it is that he's on. I've come to debate his football ability, not his earnings or the value we're getting from him.
I'm working on the speed aspect of things, sent a couple of emails and happy for a happy return, we'll leave it at that for now else it's just going to go back and forth with me saying he's quick and you saying he's not. You think six players are faster than him currently, I'm not of that opinion at all.
When you say he lacks so much, do you really believe his finishing is below standard? Do you believe he's not quick enough? Where do you stand on matters like his strength, positioning, dribbling, ball control, technique, decision making and would you care to provide examples to help me see it, because currently, I just don't - if he really is such a sub-standard player, I've got no doubts about how it should be an easy task and I'm just missing something incredibly basic. Please help me see it.
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