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      Who is really the boss of Liverpool: Gerrard or Rafa?

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      hobbithead
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      Who is really the boss of Liverpool: Gerrard or Rafa?
      Feb 22, 2010 08:57:28 pm
      I'm curious to know what people think. After all, how many times in the past has Gerrard dug deep and pulled us out of the dire. Would Rafa still be in a job, if it wasn't for the endless man of the match performances of Gerrard?
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      Re: Who is really the boss of Liverpool: Gerrard or Rafa?
      Reply #1: Feb 22, 2010 08:58:55 pm
      There is give and take in the relationship IMO.

      Rafa owes Gerrard, Gerrard owes Rafa.

      Rafa is the boss, Gerrard can be dropped by Rafa, not the other way around.
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      Re: Who is really the boss of Liverpool: Gerrard or Rafa?
      Reply #2: Feb 22, 2010 09:07:23 pm
      also Rafa can be sent off, but still impact the next game, Stevie couldnt

      not that i dont agree with the fact that stevie has saved our ar*es on numerous occasions
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      Re: Who is really the boss of Liverpool: Gerrard or Rafa?
      Reply #3: Feb 22, 2010 09:55:53 pm
      Rafa has also turned Stevie into the match winner that he is. I don't know the exact figures but he has scored more and generally become a better player with Rafa at the helm. Not that I doubt he wouldn't of turned into the player he is without Rafa at the helm.

      And without Stevie, we would of had a lot less to cheer in recent years.
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      Reply #4: Feb 22, 2010 10:36:23 pm
      What Stevie is today, its down to Rafa..
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      Re: Who is really the boss of Liverpool: Gerrard or Rafa?
      Reply #5: Feb 22, 2010 11:06:42 pm
      Rafa has also turned Stevie into the match winner that he is. I don't know the exact figures but he has scored more and generally become a better player with Rafa at the helm. Not that I doubt he wouldn't of turned into the player he is without Rafa at the helm.

      And without Stevie, we would of had a lot less to cheer in recent years.

      I think he averaged 6 goals a season before Rafa came along. Now I think its about 20.

      And Rafa is the boss.
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      Re: Who is really the boss of Liverpool: Gerrard or Rafa?
      Reply #6: Feb 22, 2010 11:19:29 pm
      Read Gerrard's biography and see who he credits as the best football manager he has worked with.
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      Re: Who is really the boss of Liverpool: Gerrard or Rafa?
      Reply #7: Feb 22, 2010 11:26:41 pm
      Read Gerrard's biography and see who he credits as the best football manager he has worked with.
      Enuff said.
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      Re: Who is really the boss of Liverpool: Gerrard or Rafa?
      Reply #8: Feb 22, 2010 11:30:14 pm
      Rafa is the boss.

      Stevie thinks he is.
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      Re: Who is really the boss of Liverpool: Gerrard or Rafa?
      Reply #9: Feb 23, 2010 12:02:34 am
      Rafa is the boss.

      Stevie thinks he is.

      Stevie's the boss.

      Rafa thinks he is. ;D
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      Re: Who is really the boss of Liverpool: Gerrard or Rafa?
      Reply #10: Feb 23, 2010 12:15:43 am
      Stevie is what he is today because of Rafa.
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      Reply #11: Feb 23, 2010 12:20:33 am
      IMHO opinion if gerrard was not around we will not have been able to win the ucl in 2005. Rafa would have been sacked by now if he had not started his liverpool career in such a way.
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      Re: Who is really the boss of Liverpool: Gerrard or Rafa?
      Reply #12: Feb 23, 2010 06:01:48 am
      Rafa is the boss.

      Stevie thinks he is.

      Critically true.

      I hate to think of this from our skipper but at times he looks like he feels he deserves better.
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      Re: Who is really the boss of Liverpool: Gerrard or Rafa?
      Reply #13: Feb 23, 2010 10:59:54 am
      Critically true.

      I hate to think of this from our skipper but at times he looks like he feels he deserves better.
      Got to agree with you!
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      Re: Who is really the boss of Liverpool: Gerrard or Rafa?
      Reply #14: Feb 23, 2010 11:09:58 am
      Rafa is the boss.

      Stevie thinks he is.

      Agreed.

      Somehow I feel Stevie might feel a little unappreciated by Rafa,  Rafa turns around and says Stevie was good but can do better when he's had an absolute blinder of a game. Maybe being called good rather than excellent can affect your form?   ???
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      Re: Who is really the boss of Liverpool: Gerrard or Rafa?
      Reply #15: Feb 23, 2010 11:10:53 am
      I hate to think of this from our skipper but at times he looks like he feels he deserves better.
      Maybe he has a point, to be fair.
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      Re: Who is really the boss of Liverpool: Gerrard or Rafa?
      Reply #16: Feb 23, 2010 11:16:38 am
      Yeah... to be honest, I think he may just be as frustrated as we are waiting to win the league?
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      Re: Who is really the boss of Liverpool: Gerrard or Rafa?
      Reply #17: Feb 23, 2010 11:26:09 am
      id be pissed too. Must be heartbraking to no your the best player in the world and you haven't won the league yet. You look around and you've got Traore playing left back and Erik Meijer upfront.

      However, I don't really understand this thread. Rafa is the boss. End of.

      No player is bigger than LFC and our future at the end of the day lies in Rafas hands, not Steven Gerrards.
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      Reply #18: Feb 23, 2010 11:37:47 am
      Actually I have a valid question to ask if Gerrard had gone to Chelsea way back when, where would we be now? I certainly don't think we'd be in a better position that we are now, and I certainly don't think we would have came second last year either...


      On a side note, I'm a forum Igor Biscan? (I hope my schlong is in my pants ???) Ok wait ever mind I'm Matt Busby now :P
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      Re: Who is really the boss of Liverpool: Gerrard or Rafa?
      Reply #19: Feb 23, 2010 11:50:10 am
      Actually I have a valid question to ask if Gerrard had gone to Chelsea way back when, where would we be now? I certainly don't think we'd be in a better position that we are now, and I certainly don't think we would have came second last year either...


      On a side note, I'm a forum Igor Biscan? (I hope my schlong is in my pants ???) Ok wait ever mind I'm Matt Busby now :P

      how can you say that though?

      Don't get me wrong i absolutely love stevie and i was so made up when he chose to stay, but have this for an example - would Everton be better off now if they hadn't have sold rooney and kept him? Would they F**k, they would have gone down years ago. It was the rooney sale that kept them alive and has actually turned them into the side they are today.

      There is no better midfielder than steven gerrard in the world, but you could argue the fact that rooney is the best striker in the world too. We may have got 50m for him and then bought 3 or 4 other world class stars. Im not actually stating this is what i wanted or what the club should have done, im just arguing the other side of the story.
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      Reply #20: Feb 23, 2010 11:57:17 am
      What I'm getting at is that he is a hue influence to this team. If he was to ever leave... it would have massive implaications on the club. Just my opinion though.
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      Re: Who is really the boss of Liverpool: Gerrard or Rafa?
      Reply #21: Feb 23, 2010 11:58:52 am
      I disagree because legends have played for the club before and have either retired or moved on. We still coped. It would be down to Rafa to find other legends in the making.

      I do love stevie though just as much as anyone and I hope hes got another 6-8 years in him yet.
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      Re: Who is really the boss of Liverpool: Gerrard or Rafa?
      Reply #22: Feb 23, 2010 12:40:12 pm
      Rafa is the Boss.
      Gerrard should have a good say, 'coz he's the captain, but Rafa is still the Boss.

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