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      Rick Parry To Be Given An Honour?

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      Re: Rick Parry To Be Given An Honour?
      Reply #46: Jul 02, 2008 06:34:05 pm
      1. Hicks tried, Gillett blocked it because Parry was on his side in the power struggle between the pair.
      2. Here's a thought for you, maybe he doesn't want to leave the club he grew up supporting.
      3. Again, he wants to stay at the club, so why should he leave because of Parry? If I had a job that I loved I wouldn't leave it because one of my colleagues was a tw*t.

      1. Hicks the guy you all hate - doing something right then, you must be chuffed with him?
      2. You believe that?  So Gerrard has no aspirations - do you not know him!
      3. Rafa wants to stay at a club that has a sh*t CEO in charge and is going nowhere fast.

      Parry may have made mistakes - but he's a Liverpool Fan and that's why he took the job.  If he's c*ap - sack him, like any job.

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      Re: Rick Parry To Be Given An Honour?
      Reply #47: Jul 02, 2008 06:35:44 pm
      1. Hicks tried, Gillett blocked it because Parry was on his side in the power struggle between the pair.

      eddie, you don't get it do you.

      Hicks suddenly wanted to sack Parry only after hearing what he perceived to be an attack on him by Parry in the media.

      THAT is when Hicks got upset.  This is personal for Hicks. 

      2. Here's a thought for you, maybe he doesn't want to leave the club he grew up supporting.

      you referred to him earlier, as selling the club to the yanks......this is all news to me, given that Parry has never owned Liverpool FC (and thus wouldn't be in a position to take such a decision). 

      Same as above point.....if the club wanted Parry dismissed, he would be dismissed.  It is not in Parry's power to decide his employment at Liverpool FC.

      3. Again, he wants to stay at the club, so why should he leave because of Parry? If I had a job that I loved I wouldn't leave it because one of my colleagues was a tw*t.

      did you not follow Rafa's final months at Valencia then?  Rafa loved his job at Valencia, but fell out with a senior figure at the club.
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      Re: Rick Parry To Be Given An Honour?
      Reply #48: Jul 02, 2008 07:04:41 pm

      I find it very comical that a guy who can't seem to work out if he lives in LA or Sheffield tries to be condescending towards me :D

      Hicks suddenly wanted to sack Parry only after hearing what he perceived to be an attack on him by Parry in the media.

      THAT is when Hicks got upset.  This is personal for Hicks. 

      Did I say that wasn't the case? No, I didn't. I simply made the point that Hicks did try to get rid of Parry.

      you referred to him earlier, as selling the club to the yanks......this is all news to me, given that Parry has never owned Liverpool FC (and thus wouldn't be in a position to take such a decision). 

      Except I didn't refer to Parry having sold the club, I just read back through my posts to make sure I didn't type it in error. Please don't misquote me again.

      did you not follow Rafa's final months at Valencia then?  Rafa loved his job at Valencia, but fell out with a senior figure at the club.

      Firstly yes I know all about Rafa's final months at Valencia. Drop the condescending act as you're not very good at it, I'll give you some lessons if you like ;)

      Now if you had actually taken the time to know the full goings on during Rafa's tenure at Valencia you would be aware that the problems actually went back as far as 2003, and that Rafa had put up with a hell of a lot before finally deciding enough was enough. He didn't walk away on a whim, he walked away after repeatedly not getting what he asked for over a period of time. We are talking about a completely different scenario, so your point actually was that you don't have one.
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      Re: Rick Parry To Be Given An Honour?
      Reply #49: Jul 02, 2008 07:21:32 pm
      Now if you had actually taken the time to know the full goings on during Rafa's tenure at Valencia you would be aware that the problems actually went back as far as 2003, and that Rafa had put up with a hell of a lot before finally deciding enough was enough. He didn't walk away on a whim, he walked away after repeatedly not getting what he asked for over a period of time.

      .... thats not good news to me that rafa is prepared to, and will walk away if he doesnt get what he wants, especially with the current owners im slightly worried by this
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      Re: Rick Parry To Be Given An Honour?
      Reply #50: Jul 02, 2008 08:48:56 pm
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      :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

      Even that won't keep your job you clown.
      i think there's been a misquote.  the headline should say 'Rick Parry to be given an Enema',  by Benitez and Hicks.
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      Re: Rick Parry To Be Given An Honour?
      Reply #51: Jul 02, 2008 09:55:59 pm
      Parry is a jerk and if you need any proof look at how he nearly lost Gerrard and that should have been enough for most, Parry should have been sacked then and there, take the sponsors we have about 3 when we should have 30, and every time we go in for a player Parry is great at not getting them, that should say something to all who think he should be backed by supporters who for the most part look upon Parry as a wet blanket. The only thing I will say in his defence is he had a part in getting Rafa and yet he was almost instrumental in getting rid of him in the klinsmann-gate and my last thought on the Parry is the quicker he's gone the better of the club will be....
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      Re: Rick Parry To Be Given An Honour?
      Reply #52: Jul 02, 2008 11:23:33 pm

      The Torres partnering Voronin and then partnering Kuyt and then partnering Crouch - was a complete disaster.  How long did it take to find the Torres and Gerrard partnership.  TOOO long.


      I bet you were'nt saying them pairings were a complete disastor when we were top of the league.
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      Re: Rick Parry To Be Given An Honour?
      Reply #53: Jul 02, 2008 11:25:05 pm
      Yeah, you're absolutely right Rich. I don't actually watch any of our games, too busy shopping & the like. I just make everything up that I post, completely off the top of my head.

      Your not the only one, im doing it all the time :D
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      Re: Rick Parry To Be Given An Honour?
      Reply #54: Jul 03, 2008 08:25:26 am
      1.  Why hasn't Parry been sacked?
      2.  Why is Gerrard staying put - knowing the club he wants to succeed with, is run by such a wrongen?
      3.  Why is Rafa staying put, if he has such a bad relationship with Parry ?
      4. why do we keep winning so many trophies, despite being so badly run?

      My turn:

      1. As Ed said, Gillett needs him in the back room as this is a co-owership, no one decision can be made final unless there is consent from the other affiliate.

      2. He said himself that he see's himself staying for the rest of career due to leaving and settling with another club will not help him and he loves Liverpool too much.

      3. Rafa wont be pushed over by some little pube head. His pride comes before everything and while i admit, it can stretch my patience, you have to admire him as he is the only man in the managerial business amongst the top 4 who has such an attitude.

      4. Steven Gerrard, Jamie Carragher, Pepe Reina and Rafael Benitez. (No Nando because we havent won anything with him yet and so to Masch)

      Richo and the dude, get a brain. To actually back this man in his job of leading this club is shameful. I agree with Tom Hicks on this (F***ing shock horror) in that Parry is holding us back. History shows he has fu**ed this club over with player contracts, transfer market, our fan bases and our financial strength.

      Stop playing devil's advocate for the sake of it. F***ing amazing.

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      Re: Rick Parry To Be Given An Honour?
      Reply #55: Jul 03, 2008 01:11:11 pm
      You say he got Rafa to Anfield, he F***ing didn't, Liverpool FC got Rafa to Anfield, the club, the history & the passion that goes with it.
      He may have done a couple of good things along the way, but the pros to Rick Parry are hugely out weighed by the cons. Time after time we have missed out on players due to his ineptitude, Simao, Vidic & Alves just being a few examples, probably plenty more that we don't even know about.
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      Rick Parry is a useless tw*t, end of story.

      To some extend I have to agree with some people on here, that the criticism of Rick Parry is at times unfair. If it was the club that got Rafa here, why didnt the club and its history get the players like Simao, Vidic, Alves etc.?
      As you say yourself, he has done a couple of good things along the way, his work in bringing Rafa here is one of them. I think he should be given credit for that.
      In connection with loosing out on transfer targets, how do we know that his ineptitude is responsible, and not the economic situation? Im asking because I dont know about it. I just thought that since he is not the man with the money, he hasnt had the possibility to meet the price other clubs asked for. Or maybe not even enough to negotiate a cheaper price.

      Anyway, this was actually not thought off as a defence of Parry, I just thought that if he should be slagged, it should be on a fair basis.

      I agree with most people on here that the club would be better off with a new CEO. I think his lack of support for Rafa last season is among the biggest mistakes he has done so far. Im not really sure what he was thinking. But the biggest reason for me to wish for a new CEO, is our financial situation. The last 4 seasons I have wondered so hard how our economy can be so bad. We have been in the CL every year, winning, making the final, the semi-final, and one 1/8-final. We are one of the biggest clubs, with a naturally big fanbase, one of the biggest brands, have a really good sponsor etc. And at the same time I hear our depts keep on growing. Whereever I ask people about this the answer is more or less the same: Bad marketing. At latest I read at Guillem Balagues site:

      http://www.guillembalague.com/rumores_desp.php?id=10

      "People, you must forget about new signings at the level of Fernando Torres. The club doesn’t need those players as urgently as it needs restructuring itself in a way that in a few years it can create enough income to be able to always get the first choices that the manager wants in the transfer market.

      For instance, Aaron Ramsey could have been a Liverpool player three months ago, but now the club cannot compete with what Manchester United or Arsenal are offering. If shops around the world don’t run out of Liverpool shirts; if commercial deals are done to produce four times more money than comes in now; if the club is run a bit more professionally, then not only can you guarantee a progression in the near future, you will also be able to keep the manager in the long term. Otherwise, we will see."


      To me, if this is true, it screams for new CEO.

      And a last thing, people keep calling Parry a tw*t, prik, c**t etc.. It indicates that people think he runs the club badly on purpose. I dont think so. He is said to be a lifelong Liverpool fan, so why would he deliberately try to harm the club? I think (which is of course only a guess) he is doing his best, but just isnt really the smartest guy around. But as always, own mistakes are harder to spot than others. Im sure from the day he took the job and until now, he thinks he the best man for the job.
      So he should be sacked, thanked for trying, allthough his best was far from good enough.
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      Re: Rick Parry To Be Given An Honour?
      Reply #56: Jul 03, 2008 03:36:44 pm
      Now Parry can be called an honoury jack-ass instead of just a jack-ass :D
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      Reply #57: Jul 03, 2008 04:40:35 pm
      good post, TotheMax.

      It's good to see someone who can post objectively.

      Parry picks up abuse seemingly for anything and everything, from some *fans*.  You'd almost think that he'd ran over their dog.

      My major criticism of Parry comes from the lack (and slowness) of the commercialism of Liverpool FC.  The stadium debacle has been going on for donkeys years.  We should be at the same point as Arsenal at the present time.  The stadium should be already built and bringing in increased revenues.  Hell, we haven't even started it.  It's gonna be AT LEAST 3 years before it is up and ready. imho 

      I don't know what it is, but Parry doesn't cut the mustard when it comes to the commercial side of things.  Maybe he's of the old Liverpool school of thought, and shies away from commercialism.. Maybe he doesn't have the necessary skills or resources to call upon (I imagine that he has a heavy workload at Anfield himself).  But whatever it is, we have never come close to fully exploiting our name across the globe. 

      If things don't change, re our commercial endeavours, then people will look back on this chapter in our history and conclude that we didn't have the commercial foresight to exploit our *brand* (sad as it is to use that word).  And that we slipped further behind our competitors and were eventually unable to compete. 

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      Reply #58: Jul 03, 2008 08:28:45 pm
      rick, I worked myself to death for my degree and ended up in shitloads of debt.  Bit like what you did to the club really...

      How do you and Moores sleep at night?
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      Re: Rick Parry To Be Given An Honour?
      Reply #59: Jul 04, 2008 10:28:36 am
      rick, I worked myself to death for my degree and ended up in shitloads of debt.  Bit like what you did to the club really...

      How do you and Moores sleep at night?

      Good point mate.

      good post, TotheMax.

      It's good to see someone who can post objectively.

      Parry picks up abuse seemingly for anything and everything, from some *fans*.  You'd almost think that he'd ran over their dog.

      My major criticism of Parry comes from the lack (and slowness) of the commercialism of Liverpool FC.  The stadium debacle has been going on for donkeys years.  We should be at the same point as Arsenal at the present time.  The stadium should be already built and bringing in increased revenues.  Hell, we haven't even started it.  It's gonna be AT LEAST 3 years before it is up and ready. imho 

      I don't know what it is, but Parry doesn't cut the mustard when it comes to the commercial side of things.  Maybe he's of the old Liverpool school of thought, and shies away from commercialism.. Maybe he doesn't have the necessary skills or resources to call upon (I imagine that he has a heavy workload at Anfield himself).  But whatever it is, we have never come close to fully exploiting our name across the globe. 

      If things don't change, re our commercial endeavours, then people will look back on this chapter in our history and conclude that we didn't have the commercial foresight to exploit our *brand* (sad as it is to use that word).  And that we slipped further behind our competitors and were eventually unable to compete. 

      You just admitted he is sh*t after standing up for him. You pointed out his faults after backing him when all those negatives are his job!

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