NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC

I just dont understand their wages model (like most fans) why they are so frightened to pay high wages especially to established players.

Lets say for example we were interested in Ibrahimovic last season. Scored 50 goals last season. Our owners might have seen his exceptional record for every club and league hes played for, but put off because £220k for a 34 year old striker (at the time) is "excessive". Thats his wage now but probably higher in Paris.

The player has scored 24 goals in all competitions this season for a team 6th in the league, on track to reach 30 by the end of the season. This is a guy with a champion pedigree but with such transfers, FSG only look from a financial cost.

Whether he would been a Klopp type of striker is not relevant. Even if he did hypothetically sign for us. I guarantee he would be the top scorer.

FSGs lack of bottle to back their managers and provide them with the resources for us to compete for the title/champions league places is all too familiar.

FSG wouldn't even consider Ibrhamovic as a signing, not under any circumstances (not THAT Ibrhamovic anyway, if this one has a son who is 13 then maybe). And is anybody surprised that he's having a top season? We're talking about the fella who has won multiple league titles playing for the biggest clubs in European football, a serial winner. What next, when Pogba eventually comes good and becomes a player people will be shocked at that too? If the Mancs hadn't started badly they'd be up there and challenging, but when you pay top money for and to top players that's what tends to happen.

I just dont understand their wages model (like most fans) why they are so frightened to pay high wages especially to established players.

Lets say for example we were interested in Ibrahimovic last season. Scored 50 goals last season. Our owners might have seen his exceptional record for every club and league hes played for, but put off because £220k for a 34 year old striker (at the time) is "excessive". Thats his wage now but probably higher in Paris.

The player has scored 24 goals in all competitions this season for a team 6th in the league, on track to reach 30 by the end of the season. This is a guy with a champion pedigree but with such transfers, FSG only look from a financial cost.

Whether he would been a Klopp type of striker is not relevant. Even if he did hypothetically sign for us. I guarantee he would be the top scorer.

FSGs lack of bottle to back their managers and provide them with the resources for us to compete for the title/champions league places is all too familiar.

Well they can't sell Ibrahimovic at the end of the season for 50mil so there goes that.
People fail to see(or refuse to) that they've transformed the club in nothing more than a stepping stone...you come here hit your peak and then we'll ship you for 50mil..you are not here to win trophies because if you have ambitions of winning a trophy you'll want to be paid accordingly and that will hurt the wage bill.
They see Liverpool as Arsenal 2.0 as they've copied their model pretty successfully in the last 7 years.

Apparently JWH and the lovely Linda were guests at the personal invitation of Barca's president today.

So are we:

a) Setting up to sell Coutinho.
b) Setting up to release Klopp.
c) Setting up LFC as a feeder club.
d) Discussing how we managed to expand the stadium without losing many seats/ticket sales throughout the construction.
e) None of the above because it's all twitter bollocks?

Come to your own conclusions, might as well join the pack who some and probably many are already convinced it's one, or many of the above.

Apparently JWH and the lovely Linda were guests at the personal invitation of Barca's president today.

So are we:

a) Setting up to sell Coutinho.
b) Setting up to release Klopp.
c) Setting up LFC as a feeder club.
d) Discussing how we managed to expand the stadium without losing many seats/ticket sales throughout the construction.
e) None of the above because it's all twitter bollocks?

Come to your own conclusions, might as well join the pack who some and probably many are already convinced it's one, or many of the above.

You forgot option f, seduce the lovely Linda.

You forgot option f, seduce the lovely Linda.

I'm led to believe that's the bulge in his pants that does that PM... of course I'm on about his wallet.

I just dont understand their wages model (like most fans) why they are so frightened to pay high wages especially to established players.

Lets say for example we were interested in Ibrahimovic last season. Scored 50 goals last season. Our owners might have seen his exceptional record for every club and league hes played for, but put off because £220k for a 34 year old striker (at the time) is "excessive". Thats his wage now but probably higher in Paris.

The player has scored 24 goals in all competitions this season for a team 6th in the league, on track to reach 30 by the end of the season. This is a guy with a champion pedigree but with such transfers, FSG only look from a financial cost.

Whether he would been a Klopp type of striker is not relevant. Even if he did hypothetically sign for us. I guarantee he would be the top scorer.

FSGs lack of bottle to back their managers and provide them with the resources for us to compete for the title/champions league places is all too familiar.

Yeah yeah we are acquainted with JWH&Co's lack of commitment/faith/honesty with LFC and are witnessing the repercussions once again. 

Apparently JWH and the lovely Linda were guests at the personal invitation of Barca's president today.

So are we:

a) Setting up to sell Coutinho.
b) Setting up to release Klopp.
c) Setting up LFC as a feeder club.
d) Discussing how we managed to expand the stadium without losing many seats/ticket sales throughout the construction.
e) None of the above because it's all twitter bollocks?

Come to your own conclusions, might as well join the pack who some and probably many are already convinced it's one, or many of the above.

Too close to call mate, the only sure thing is it's not twitter bollocks.

It'll be either D or E. I remember Barcelona reps coming to Anfield sometime last season for stadium reasons. I don't get why it would be anything transfer related, that's not usually how things work, is it?

Apparently JWH and the lovely Linda were guests at the personal invitation of Barca's president today.

So are we:

a) Setting up to sell Coutinho.
b) Setting up to release Klopp.
c) Setting up LFC as a feeder club.
d) Discussing how we managed to expand the stadium without losing many seats/ticket sales throughout the construction.
e) None of the above because it's all twitter bollocks?

Come to your own conclusions, might as well join the pack who some and probably many are already convinced it's one, or many of the above.

F) trading Klopp for MSN



Everyone wants star players so JWH is going to make it happen.

F) trading Klopp for MSN

You getting confused with American sport again?

"Trading" - how quaint

b) Setting up to release Klopp.

How apt I've just seen this on the BBC

Luis Enrique: Barcelona plan talks over manager's future in April

How apt I've just seen this on the BBC

Luis Enrique: Barcelona plan talks over manager's future in April

Getting Klopp to sign that 6 year contract could be a life saver.

How apt I've just seen this on the BBC

Luis Enrique: Barcelona plan talks over manager's future in April

Earn a windfall on Klopp & draft in Howe.....











Rafa

FSG wouldn't even consider Ibrhamovic as a signing, not under any circumstances (not THAT Ibrhamovic anyway, if this one has a son who is 13 then maybe). And is anybody surprised that he's having a top season? We're talking about the fella who has won multiple league titles playing for the biggest clubs in European football, a serial winner. What next, when Pogba eventually comes good and becomes a player people will be shocked at that too? If the Mancs hadn't started badly they'd be up there and challenging, but when you pay top money for and to top players that's what tends to happen.

All true. Remember stating on a previous transfer thread that I'd take Pogba all day long. He's a beast in the making...

To be fair Klopp and Barca seem like chalk and cheese.

I think this boils down to Barca being after ideas on expanding a stadium on the cheap and John will be after being seen with the great and good of soccerball.

JWH&Co need a F***ing good translator to explain away their process of stadium enlargement costing them F**k all.
No one will believe how easy it is to make the supporters/club pay for it with just a nominal loan on the owners part, other issues of a none committal nature can be discussed at leisure; it will have to be made clear however the plan will involve the owners of Barca F***ing off thousands of miles away to avoid involvement.

JWH&Co need a f**king good translator to explain away their process of stadium enlargement costing them f**k all.
No one will believe how easy it is to make the supporters/club pay for it with just a nominal loan on the owners part, other issues of a none committal nature can be discussed at leisure; it will have to be made clear however the plan will involve the owners of Barca f**king off thousands of miles away to avoid involvement.

Unless something changed....

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/liverpool-fcs-owners-fsg-delivered-8238254

The finance is being provided by an interest free loan from FSG’s cash reserves - meaning redevelopment will be no drain on the club’s resources.

So to speak  to your point, it should be pretty easy for them to explain how they did it. They can just show them the link I provided.

Unless something changed....

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/liverpool-fcs-owners-fsg-delivered-8238254
So to speak  to your point, it should be pretty easy for them to explain how they did it. They can just show them the link I provided.

As posted the club itself are paying for the stadium extension, loaning a very viable asset the funds to generate more dosh is a win win situation.

It is highly unlikely any club would use the JWH&Co's blueprint of achieving success, their CV is damning in that respect, from a financial point of view the owners are on a winner.

As posted the club itself are paying for the stadium extension, loaning a very viable asset the funds to generate more dosh is a win win situation.

It is highly unlikely any club would use the JWH&Co's blueprint of achieving success, their CV is damning in that respect, from a financial point of view the owners are on a winner.

Not really. Why wouldn't a club pay for their  own stadium? Who do you think should pay for it? 

Not really. Why wouldn't a club pay for their  own stadium? Who do you think should pay for it?

Aren't we getting paid 90m just for the main stand naming rights when it only cost £114m develop?
In all, that takes it to 24m to extend our stadium rather than build a new one.

Not really. Why wouldn't a club pay for their  own stadium? Who do you think should pay for it? 

I made no comment regarding the stadium other than the club paid for it, you on the other hand are biggin up the owners for loaning the club some money, a loan by the way that is 100% secure.

I made no comment regarding the stadium other than the club paid for it, you on the other hand are biggin up the owners for loaning the club some money, a loan by the way that is 100% secure.

Not bigging up anyone, just saying it's not really a shocking way of doing business.

Not bigging up anyone, just saying it's not really a shocking way of doing business.

Failing to invest in a proven asset is not a questionable way of doing business?
Have you never heard the maxim concerning 'feed an asset'.

Failing to invest in a proven asset is not a questionable way of doing business?
Have you never heard the maxim concerning 'feed an asset'.

Nah fella, that's "Feed a fever, starve a tw*t".

So I'm guessing you might be hungry.