Trending Topics

      Next match: LFC v Spurs [Premier League] Sun 5th May @ 4:30 pm
      Anfield

      Today is the 29th of April and on this date LFC's match record is P29 W11 D6 L12

      NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC

      Read 2767415 times
      0 Members and 7 Guests are viewing this topic.
      MarkMitt
      • Forum Legend - Fagan
      • *****

      • 2,800 posts | 337 
      • Give it your best every time!
      Re: NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC
      Reply #26726: Feb 21, 2021 08:34:59 pm

      Because the squad is not as bad as what people keeping suggesting - the players that are playing week in week out arent the no hopers certain fans keep stating

      Who’s said we have no hopers then?

      UncleBob
      • Spotify Bob
      • Forum Legend - Fagan
      • *****

      • 3,135 posts | 567 
      Re: NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC
      Reply #26727: Feb 21, 2021 08:35:46 pm
      People saying our squad isn’t good enough... it really isn’t that bad.
      In the assumption our first team is
      Allison
      TAA
      Robertson
      VVD
      Gomez
      Henderson
      Fabinho
      Thiago
      Salah
      Firmino
      Mane

      It leaves our bench as
      Adrian
      Matip
      Wijnandum
      Keita
      Milner
      Oxlade
      Jota

      With players like tsimikas, Williams, Shaqiri, origi, Davies and minamino in waiting.

      Granted we could improve a few squad players but our squad depth isn’t terrible.
      MarkMitt
      • Forum Legend - Fagan
      • *****

      • 2,800 posts | 337 
      • Give it your best every time!
      Re: NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC
      Reply #26728: Feb 21, 2021 08:37:13 pm
      Do people really expect us to have the level of squad that allows multiple like for like people sat on the bench ?


      It’s not some computer game where the bench and squad is full of £50mil players are waiting.


      Where do people expect rbe money to come from to pay for that sort of squad

      From the investors and sponsors you see adorned around the ground and on the jerseys for a start. Out of the owners business accounts secondly, seeing as they’re ever increasing. How does that sound?
      shabbadoo
      • Forum Legend - Shankly
      • ******

      • 29,455 posts | 4585 
      Re: NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC
      Reply #26729: Feb 21, 2021 08:38:39 pm
      Do people really expect us to have the level of squad that allows multiple like for like people sat on the bench ?


      It’s not some computer game where the bench and squad is full of £50mil players are waiting.


      Where do people expect rbe money to come from to pay for that sort of squad





      Henry points finger at Benitez for Reds plight

      ESPN staff

      April 6, 2011


      Liverpool owner John W Henry feels much of the blame for the club's current struggles should be shouldered by former manager Rafa Benitez.

      Henry took control of the Anfield giants last October, inheriting a club struggling towards the foot of the Premier League.

      Manager Roy Hodgson was relieved of his duties and replaced with Kenny Dalglish. The move sparked a mini revival but investment in the playing staff was required as Henry felt the squad left at Hodgson's disposal by Benitez was not good enough to challenge the big guns in England.

      "The worst surprise was the lack of depth," Henry told Four Four Two. "Our biggest concern was this issue - and it was a bigger issue than we feared.

      "There was a huge, multi-year payroll for a squad with very little quality in depth."

      http://en.espn.co.uk/football/sport/story/83733.html


      Never forget.

       :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
      MarkMitt
      • Forum Legend - Fagan
      • *****

      • 2,800 posts | 337 
      • Give it your best every time!
      Re: NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC
      Reply #26730: Feb 21, 2021 08:43:15 pm




      Henry points finger at Benitez for Reds plight

      ESPN staff

      April 6, 2011


      Liverpool owner John W Henry feels much of the blame for the club's current struggles should be shouldered by former manager Rafa Benitez.

      Henry took control of the Anfield giants last October, inheriting a club struggling towards the foot of the Premier League.

      Manager Roy Hodgson was relieved of his duties and replaced with Kenny Dalglish. The move sparked a mini revival but investment in the playing staff was required as Henry felt the squad left at Hodgson's disposal by Benitez was not good enough to challenge the big guns in England.

      "The worst surprise was the lack of depth," Henry told Four Four Two. "Our biggest concern was this issue - and it was a bigger issue than we feared.

      "There was a huge, multi-year payroll for a squad with very little quality in depth."

      http://en.espn.co.uk/football/sport/story/83733.html


      Never forget.

       :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

      Couldn’t make it up. Yet another legend of a manager cursed by lack of investment. Must be an American thing I guess...

      Lallana in Pyjamas
      • LFC Reds Subscriber
      • ******
      • 13,050 posts | 3431 
      Re: NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC
      Reply #26731: Feb 21, 2021 08:45:33 pm
      From the investors and sponsors you see adorned around the ground and on the jerseys for a start. Out of the owners business accounts secondly, seeing as they’re ever increasing. How does that sound?


      Have you even bothered to read the club accounts to see where the sponsers money goes already ? What do you think helps pay that huge wage bill


      And what “business accounts” are you talking about ? Why would they be ever increasing when most of their wealth is in assets not cash
      rossyred
      • Forum Legend - Dalglish
      • *****

      • 9,292 posts | 1664 
      Re: NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC
      Reply #26732: Feb 21, 2021 08:46:37 pm
      People saying our squad isn’t good enough... it really isn’t that bad.
      In the assumption our first team is
      Allison
      TAA
      Robertson
      VVD
      Gomez
      Henderson
      Fabinho
      Thiago
      Salah
      Firmino
      Mane

      It leaves our bench as
      Adrian
      Matip
      Wijnandum
      Keita
      Milner
      Oxlade
      Jota

      With players like tsimikas, Williams, Shaqiri, origi, Davies and minamino in waiting.

      Granted we could improve a few squad players but our squad depth isn’t terrible.

      Think more the quality of the depth Tzimikas albeit injured or ill a bit should have played more look at Telles not as much drop off , James /Greenwood all reserves we have Origi just think a few positions the quality not there
      Lallana in Pyjamas
      • LFC Reds Subscriber
      • ******
      • 13,050 posts | 3431 
      Re: NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC
      Reply #26733: Feb 21, 2021 08:48:08 pm




      Henry points finger at Benitez for Reds plight

      ESPN staff

      April 6, 2011


      Liverpool owner John W Henry feels much of the blame for the club's current struggles should be shouldered by former manager Rafa Benitez.

      Henry took control of the Anfield giants last October, inheriting a club struggling towards the foot of the Premier League.

      Manager Roy Hodgson was relieved of his duties and replaced with Kenny Dalglish. The move sparked a mini revival but investment in the playing staff was required as Henry felt the squad left at Hodgson's disposal by Benitez was not good enough to challenge the big guns in England.

      "The worst surprise was the lack of depth," Henry told Four Four Two. "Our biggest concern was this issue - and it was a bigger issue than we feared.

      "There was a huge, multi-year payroll for a squad with very little quality in depth."

      http://en.espn.co.uk/football/sport/story/83733.html


      Never forget.

       :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:


      They weren’t wrong were they - the squad that was there when Rafa left was shocking - mid table at best
      shabbadoo
      • Forum Legend - Shankly
      • ******

      • 29,455 posts | 4585 
      Re: NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC
      Reply #26734: Feb 21, 2021 08:49:59 pm

      They weren’t wrong were they - the squad that was there when Rafa left was shocking - mid table at best

      Why point the finger at Rafa though & not the last American administration..?
      MarkMitt
      • Forum Legend - Fagan
      • *****

      • 2,800 posts | 337 
      • Give it your best every time!
      Re: NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC
      Reply #26735: Feb 21, 2021 08:50:40 pm

      Have you even bothered to read the club accounts to see where the sponsers money goes already ? What do you think helps pay that huge wage bill


      And what “business accounts” are you talking about ? Why would they be ever increasing when most of their wealth is in assets not cash

      So assets can’t be used in deals then with financial institutions?

      Go away, you’re either a a WUM or a F***ing plank. Probably both to be honest.

      MarkMitt
      • Forum Legend - Fagan
      • *****

      • 2,800 posts | 337 
      • Give it your best every time!
      Re: NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC
      Reply #26736: Feb 21, 2021 08:51:17 pm

      They weren’t wrong were they - the squad that was there when Rafa left was shocking - mid table at best

      You really are a w**ker.

      Lallana in Pyjamas
      • LFC Reds Subscriber
      • ******
      • 13,050 posts | 3431 
      Re: NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC
      Reply #26737: Feb 21, 2021 08:56:21 pm
      Why point the finger at Rafa though & not the last American administration..?


      They didn’t mention Rafa in the article though - the headline did but no actual mention from the owners to Rafa

      It’s also a decade ago now and life has moved on
      Lallana in Pyjamas
      • LFC Reds Subscriber
      • ******
      • 13,050 posts | 3431 
      Re: NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC
      Reply #26738: Feb 21, 2021 08:58:26 pm
      So assets can’t be used in deals then with financial institutions?

      Go away, you’re either a a WUM or a f**king plank. Probably both to be honest.


      So you want them to take loans out then ?


      Do you even understand the financial model rbe club uses - I’m guessing by your replies you haven’t got a F***ing clue and prob using FIFA as a model to judge how a club should be run
      MarkMitt
      • Forum Legend - Fagan
      • *****

      • 2,800 posts | 337 
      • Give it your best every time!
      Re: NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC
      Reply #26739: Feb 21, 2021 08:59:34 pm

      They didn’t mention Rafa in the article though - the headline did but no actual mention from the owners to Rafa

      It’s also a decade ago now and life has moved on

      World War 2 finished in 1945. Still happened though.

      Rafa worked miracles with his piece meal negative spend season on season. You can’t build a winning formula without spending, hence why trophies rarely happen.

      Lallana in Pyjamas
      • LFC Reds Subscriber
      • ******
      • 13,050 posts | 3431 
      Re: NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC
      Reply #26740: Feb 21, 2021 08:59:43 pm


      Why ? We finished 7th or 8th I think it was when Rafa left
      MarkMitt
      • Forum Legend - Fagan
      • *****

      • 2,800 posts | 337 
      • Give it your best every time!
      Re: NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC
      Reply #26741: Feb 21, 2021 09:01:05 pm

      So you want them to take loans out then ?


      Do you even understand the financial model rbe club uses - I’m guessing by your replies you haven’t got a f**king clue and prob using FIFA as a model to judge how a club should be run

      I’d stop assuming if I were you, because you’ve been wrong about everything so f**king far.

      I know EXACTLY what financial model the club uses. The one where it doesn’t eat into their profits. Quite f**king simple really!

      shabbadoo
      • Forum Legend - Shankly
      • ******

      • 29,455 posts | 4585 
      Re: NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC
      Reply #26742: Feb 21, 2021 09:01:21 pm

      Why ? We finished 7th or 8th I think it was when Rafa left

      Why did we finish 7th or 8th in the league..? Rafa or lack of investment..?
      Lallana in Pyjamas
      • LFC Reds Subscriber
      • ******
      • 13,050 posts | 3431 
      Re: NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC
      Reply #26743: Feb 21, 2021 09:05:43 pm
      Why did we finish 7th or 8th in the league..? Rafa or lack of investment..?

      Because we sold Alonso and wasted ÂŁ20plus millions on Aquilani and ÂŁ17mil on a right back

      The club was a mess on and off the field and Rafa wasn’t innocent
      Lallana in Pyjamas
      • LFC Reds Subscriber
      • ******
      • 13,050 posts | 3431 
      Re: NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC
      Reply #26744: Feb 21, 2021 09:06:33 pm
      I’d stop assuming if I were you, because you’ve been wrong about everything so f**king far.

      I know EXACTLY what financial model the club uses. The one where it doesn’t eat into their profits. Quite f**king simple really!


      You clearly don’t know the financial model of the club if you keep going on about profits


      I would suggest you read the accounts
      UncleBob
      • Spotify Bob
      • Forum Legend - Fagan
      • *****

      • 3,135 posts | 567 
      Re: NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC
      Reply #26745: Feb 21, 2021 09:09:14 pm
      Mr pyjamas is right. That article mentions Rafa but the quotes do not.
      Rafa was denied funds by owners that were really terrible. Almost club going bust terrible.

      Our current owners have a strict business model. But sadly, it’s their business. They bought us to make themselves money and have probably made a lot. But football ain’t what it used to be. I would not want to be a city or Chelsea type soulless club.
      If our owners sold up they would sell to the highest bidder. The only way you can compete with the sheikhs or abramovic is someone like bill gates. Someone who sees it as a side project. If that happens we will be no better than city or Chelsea in that they buy their trophies.
      The only other way is to be run by supporters. The profits of the club can be pumped back into the squad without needing to fill the owners and shareholders pockets.


      MarkMitt
      • Forum Legend - Fagan
      • *****

      • 2,800 posts | 337 
      • Give it your best every time!
      Re: NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC
      Reply #26746: Feb 21, 2021 09:10:34 pm

      You clearly don’t know the financial model of the club if you keep going on about profits


      I would suggest you read the accounts

      I’d suggest you stop licking American owners ring pieces. If reading accounts floats your boat, then knock yourself out party animal.

      You don’t need to be a guru however to know there is massive lack of investment in the actual business end of the club. The team on the field, the most important piece of any football club...

      Lallana in Pyjamas
      • LFC Reds Subscriber
      • ******
      • 13,050 posts | 3431 
      Re: NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC
      Reply #26747: Feb 21, 2021 09:18:42 pm
      I’d suggest you stop licking American owners ring pieces. If reading accounts floats your boat, then knock yourself out party animal.

      You don’t need to be a guru however to know there is massive lack of investment in the actual business end of the club. The team on the field, the most important piece of any football club...


      If you read the accounts you might actually start to understand the finances of the club

      As for investment- they have spent around ÂŁ500mil on players since Klopp arrived
      MarkMitt
      • Forum Legend - Fagan
      • *****

      • 2,800 posts | 337 
      • Give it your best every time!
      Re: NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC
      Reply #26748: Feb 21, 2021 09:38:48 pm

      If you read the accounts you might actually start to understand the finances of the club

      As for investment- they have spent around ÂŁ500mil on players since Klopp arrived

      I can’t be arsed with this anymore. They’ve helped Klopp build a great first 11 and a few other players to that group. However to be continuously successful, season after season, you need depth. Something we don’t have. The last couple of seasons have been wonderful, however a massive amount of luck played its part when you consider the dearth of talent on our bench. As we now see, luck has caught up and we’ve been caught with our pant well and truly down.

      Now do you see?

      I bid you a good night...

      Quick Reply