Aly Cissokho

Harsh on Insua imo, putting him in such company. Konchesky would win the award hands down for me on actual Liverpool appearances.

Harsh on Insua imo, putting him in such company. Konchesky would win the award hands down for me on actual Liverpool appearances.

I think manwithnoname is focused on the manwithnamerafa to be honest.

Roy Evans would like Julian Dicks added to the worst left back discussion.

Roy Evans would like Julian Dicks added to the worst left back discussion.

I can't think of another position where we have had such an alarming amount of total sh*t in recent years.

I never really rated Aurelio either, so in the last 15-20 years, how many quality players at LB have we had?

Riise, Carra (if briefly), Enrique......erm. Arbeloa? Now and again?

I can't think of another position where we have had such an alarming amount of total sh*t in recent years.

I never really rated Aurelio either, so in the last 15-20 years, how many quality players at LB have we had?

Riise, Carra (if briefly), Enrique......erm. Arbeloa? Now and again?

Not rating Aurelio is more your deficiency than his, very good left back, just made of glass unfortunately.

Not rating Aurelio is more your deficiency than his, very good left back, just made of glass unfortunately.

Hmmm, couldn't tackle, couldn't head, lacked pace. He was never sturdy enough mentally or physically.
I don't think he had enough defensive qualities to be a real success.

I suppose I do prefer that part of the job to come first - although I do seem to have made an exception for Glen Johnson....and Riise.... - but I will always like a player like Flanno. I think his problem is a lack of pace and a concern that his passing and offensive qualities will always mean he's more of a backup, rather than a first team player.

Although he could look at Carragher in 2001 for inspiration. He was fantastic around that period in a position that he arguably wasn't suited for.

My ideal full-back would be someone who can do both, has some pace and technique, and also the required grit and defensive quality. Steve Finnan and Babbel would be two recent-ish good examples at RB.

Could do all those things you said he can't and more.

Not rating Aurelio is more your deficiency than his, very good left back, just made of glass unfortunately.

Indeed.

Fabio could have been a great full back for us if he could have stayed fit.

Hmmm, couldn't tackle, couldn't head, lacked pace. He was never sturdy enough mentally or physically.
I don't think he had enough defensive qualities to be a real success.

I suppose I do prefer that part of the job to come first - although I do seem to have made an exception for Glen Johnson....and Riise.... - but I will always like a player like Flanno. I think his problem is a lack of pace and a concern that his passing and offensive qualities will always mean he's more of a backup, rather than a first team player.

Although he could look at Carragher in 2001 for inspiration. He was fantastic around that period in a position that he arguably wasn't suited for.

My ideal full-back would be someone who can do both, has some pace and technique, and also the required grit and defensive quality. Steve Finnan and Babbel would be two recent-ish good examples at RB.

Aurelio was complete quality. Hypia had no pace: makes no difference. Johnson has pace. Risse had pace if he had 30 m to run into. Defending is about intelligence and Aurelio had that in abundance. His touch was proper brazilian and his passing, shooting, crossing was a world class. Aurelio had one problem and that was his injuries.

IN Cissokho we have an absolute specimen of absolute horse manure can't wait to see him gone!

I can't think of another position where we have had such an alarming amount of total sh*t in recent years.

I never really rated Aurelio either, so in the last 15-20 years, how many quality players at LB have we had?

Riise, Carra (if briefly), Enrique......erm. Arbeloa? Now and again?

Have to agree, never really rated what I saw of him defensively (Aurelio that is), had a good free kick on him mind.

Flanno is apparently fit for the Derby so we might see this thread drop in interest in a wekks time.

Lets hope so.

Aurelio was complete quality. Hypia had no pace: makes no difference. Johnson has pace. Risse had pace if he had 30 m to run into. Defending is about intelligence and Aurelio had that in abundance. His touch was proper brazilian and his passing, shooting, crossing was a world class. Aurelio had one problem and that was his injuries.

Makes a different if you're a snail when you play full-back. I maintain that Aurelio was horribly overrated, he was a terrible defender and couldn't tackle.

Makes a different if you're a snail when you play full-back. I maintain that Aurelio was horribly overrated, he was a terrible defender and couldn't tackle.

You can maintain it all you want, you're still wrong.

"Wrong" Roddenberry is subjective here .

Have to agree, never really rated what I saw of him defensively (Aurelio that is), had a good free kick on him mind.

I agree he wasn't a great tackler and because of his lack of pace he was sometimes caught out of position, but the rest of his game was top class.

"Wrong" Roddenbury is subjective here .

I can still say he's wrong, beerbelly, subjective or not.

Yes you can, but of course it doesn't make you right.

Bully, .

Much like I said they weren't right, n'est pas? 

That was just a misspelt word, it happens, check a  few posts up.

Makes a different if you're a snail when you play full-back. I maintain that Aurelio was horribly overrated, he was a terrible defender and couldn't tackle.

Just out of interest your always slagging our players off is there anybody you have ever rated at LFC?

Just out of interest your always slagging our players off is there anybody you have ever rated at LFC?

Don't know, but they are starting to make Federer look like an outright optimist.

Just out of interest your always slagging our players off is there anybody you have ever rated at LFC?

Current team? I really rate: Agger, Skrtel, Gerrard, Suarez, Coutinho, Sturridge, Johnson, Enrique, Sterling. Maybe Sakho.
Nowhere near good enough: Lucas, Cissokho, Toure, Alberto, Aspaz, Allen, Moses.
OK: Flanno, Mignolet (rapidly getting close to "not good enough"), Henderson.

I've rated lots of players, because we've had so many great ones. Just not enough all at the same time, but recent (ish) favourites have been: Alonso, Hyypia, Carra, Reina, Masher, Torres, Riise, Finnan, Garcia, Hamann, Owen

No.

Misspelt? funny then why that innuendo hasn't been edited.

Why hasn't your spelling error been corrected as well then?

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? will suffice for why mine hasn't as well then.

As for Ally, lucky he's not a racehorse, because he's being showing up lame.