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      Your non-Gerrard/Lucas/Henderson starting XI?

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      manwithnoname
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      Re: Your non-Gerrard/Lucas/Henderson starting XI?
      Reply #23: Nov 04, 2013 04:15:43 pm
                     Mignolet

      Skrtle- Agger- Sakho- Enrique

                       Toure

         Johnson-Coutinho-Sterling

                 Suarez  Sturridge

           

      That's almost hilariously sh*t.
       
      Toure isn't a DM; Skrtel at RB, a position he played so badly last time it was tried, I nearly cried; Johnson as a RW, which he isn't; and no CM players at all.
       
      I don't think I've seen a more appalingly ill-considered line-up suggestion. The only way it would get a result is if the opposition laughed so much when they saw the teamsheet, they all got injured.
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      Re: Your non-Gerrard/Lucas/Henderson starting XI?
      Reply #24: Nov 04, 2013 04:23:01 pm

      That's almost hilariously sh*t.
       
      Toure isn't a DM; Skrtel at RB, a position he played so badly last time it was tried, I nearly cried; Johnson as a RW, which he isn't; and no CM players at all.
       
      I don't think I've seen a more appalingly ill-considered line-up suggestion. The only way it would get a result is if the opposition laughed so much when they saw the teamsheet, they all got injured.

      I think Shabs is obviously going for a long ball game, knocking the ball over and missing the midfield out entirely, with Johnson, Coutinho and  Stirling picking up the loose balls.
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      Re: Your non-Gerrard/Lucas/Henderson starting XI?
      Reply #25: Nov 04, 2013 04:28:43 pm

      That's almost hilariously sh*t.
       
      Toure isn't a DM; Skrtel at RB, a position he played so badly last time it was tried, I nearly cried; Johnson as a RW, which he isn't; and no CM players at all.
       
      I don't think I've seen a more appalingly ill-considered line-up suggestion. The only way it would get a result is if the opposition laughed so much when they saw the teamsheet, they all got injured.


      But the thread title does read a bit like "what line up without ANY of the 3 midfielders of Saturday".
      I think thats where the confusion started.


      I also wonder what sort of an effort one of the defenders would make, if we tried to convert one to defensive midfield. For example Marcel Desailly (terrific defender) was also used as a midfielder early in his career - at AC Milan.
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      Re: Your non-Gerrard/Lucas/Henderson starting XI?
      Reply #26: Nov 04, 2013 04:45:32 pm
      The only way to replace the 3 is to open up the purse in January take out anything from 40 to 60 million quid...
      However to answer the question in the op
       
                     Mignolet
       
      Johnson Skrtel Agger  Jose/Cissokho
       
          Toure/Sakho  Kelly
       
      Suarez   Coutinho   Moses
       
                    Sturridge
       
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      Re: Your non-Gerrard/Lucas/Henderson starting XI?
      Reply #27: Nov 04, 2013 05:11:21 pm

      That's almost hilariously sh*t.
       
      Toure isn't a DM; Skrtel at RB, a position he played so badly last time it was tried, I nearly cried; Johnson as a RW, which he isn't; and no CM players at all.
       
      I don't think I've seen a more appalingly ill-considered line-up suggestion. The only way it would get a result is if the opposition laughed so much when they saw the teamsheet, they all got injured.


       :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
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      Re: Your non-Gerrard/Lucas/Henderson starting XI?
      Reply #28: Nov 04, 2013 05:26:04 pm
      I think we need an overhaul in our midfield, I'm afraid we are just not good enough in that area and we need 2 midfielders who are better than Lucas and Henderson, and a Gerrard replacement in order to make a step up.


      We will struggle this season against quality midfield, same way we did against Arsenal.







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      Re: Your non-Gerrard/Lucas/Henderson starting XI?
      Reply #29: Nov 04, 2013 07:10:40 pm
      None of the above

      Three £20m+ players in January would see us alright

      Like that's going to happen


      don't hold your breath mate   ;D
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      Re: Your non-Gerrard/Lucas/Henderson starting XI?
      Reply #30: Nov 04, 2013 07:11:25 pm
                        Mignolet
                Skrtel - Agger - Sakho
      Johnson - Touré - Allen - Enrique
                         Coutinho
                   Suarez - Sturridge


      Now THAT is a team that I would love to see against Fulham.  I think it would work.
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      Re: Your non-Gerrard/Lucas/Henderson starting XI?
      Reply #31: Nov 04, 2013 07:29:32 pm

      I must ask, what would be the need in playing three centre backs other than trying to keep them all happy?

      Unless we actually have genuine wing backs, which we don't, I'd stick to a 433 formation. It's Fulham ffs. The only 352 I would play is this:

                        Mignolet
         
               Skrtel  Agger  Sakho

                    Lucas   Hendo

      Sterling        Coutinho      Moses

                  Sturridge  Suarez

      That's three in defence, five in midfield, and two up front... as the formation suggests...

      EDIT: woops, wrong thread
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      Re: Your non-Gerrard/Lucas/Henderson starting XI?
      Reply #32: Nov 04, 2013 09:31:56 pm
                        Mignolet
                Skrtel - Agger - Sakho
      Johnson - Touré - Allen - Enrique
                         Coutinho
                   Suarez - Sturridge

      I quite like the look of that line-up, I'm not surei'd go with three at the back necessarily but a midfield three of Toure, Allen and Coutinho is deffo the option I would go for. I think Toure would be FAR more effective in an emergency holding role compared to Agger.
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      Re: Your non-Gerrard/Lucas/Henderson starting XI?
      Reply #33: Nov 04, 2013 09:34:21 pm
      I must ask, what would be the need in playing three centre backs other than trying to keep them all happy?

      Because Johnson and Enrique have the pace to go forward and supply SAS as well as track back with any counter attacking footballers. It's only when those two aren't in the team the three at the back doesn't work.
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      Re: Your non-Gerrard/Lucas/Henderson starting XI?
      Reply #34: Nov 04, 2013 09:52:42 pm
      Because Johnson and Enrique have the pace to go forward and supply SAS as well as track back with any counter attacking footballers. It's only when those two aren't in the team the three at the back doesn't work.


      They can do exactly the same being part of a back four though.
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      Re: Your non-Gerrard/Lucas/Henderson starting XI?
      Reply #35: Nov 05, 2013 07:28:09 am
      I must ask, what would be the need in playing three centre backs other than trying to keep them all happy?


      To boost up Skrtels price for next window wage cut maybe ;)

      Unless we actually have genuine wing backs, which we don't, I'd stick to a 433 formation. It's Fulham ffs. The only 352 I would play is this:

                        Mignolet
         
               Skrtel  Agger  Sakho

                    Lucas   Allen

      Sterling        Coutinho      Moses

                  Sturridge  Suarez

      That's three in defence, five in midfield, and two up front... as the formation suggests...

      EDIT: woops, wrong thread
      I really like that attacking lineup when we play at home against not very strong team. 


      EDIT : Hendo not available (by the thread title :D) so I'll put Allen there.
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      Re: Your non-Gerrard/Lucas/Henderson starting XI?
      Reply #36: Nov 06, 2013 03:53:04 pm
      I can't wait til young Suso returns, this boy deserves to be in Liverpools starting XI, certainly over Henderson. I know he's young and needs first team football but with the way he played last season I thought he deserved to compete for a place considering how poor our midfield is.
      The reports from spain are saying that he has been Almerias outstanding player and he has 5 assists in the league already.
       
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      Re: Your non-Gerrard/Lucas/Henderson starting XI?
      Reply #37: Nov 06, 2013 05:05:12 pm
                      Migs

      Kolo   Skrtel   Agger     Jose

        Sterling    Allen    Alberto
                   
                    Coutinho
            Sturridge   Suarez
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      Re: Your non-Gerrard/Lucas/Henderson starting XI?
      Reply #38: Nov 06, 2013 05:13:33 pm
                      Migs

      Kolo   Skrtel   Agger     Jose

        Sterling    Allen    Alberto
                   
                    Coutinho
            Sturridge   Suarez

      No chance that midfield would work.
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      Re: Your non-Gerrard/Lucas/Henderson starting XI?
      Reply #39: Nov 06, 2013 05:33:05 pm
      No chance that midfield would work.

      Acknowledged. What would you do then? Bring in Ilori?
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      Re: Your non-Gerrard/Lucas/Henderson starting XI?
      Reply #40: Nov 06, 2013 05:36:38 pm
      I'd certainly like to see us try something new, Gerrard and Lucas in the middle quite simply doesn't work against a good midfield. I think its to risky to replace both of them in one go though, unless we absolutely had to.
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      Re: Your non-Gerrard/Lucas/Henderson starting XI?
      Reply #41: Nov 06, 2013 05:39:32 pm
      Acknowledged. What would you do then? Bring in Ilori?

      Ilori's a defender and I think we have more than enough square pegs in round holes at present.

      To answer your question and the whole purpose of the topic we don't have a midfield if you remove all 3 of them.  Change 1 or even 2 out of the 3 and we could probably cope but leave them all out and we'd have problems.
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      Re: Your non-Gerrard/Lucas/Henderson starting XI?
      Reply #42: Nov 07, 2013 08:58:45 am
      I must ask, what would be the need in playing three centre backs other than trying to keep them all happy?

      Unless we actually have genuine wing backs, which we don't, I'd stick to a 433 formation. It's Fulham ffs. The only 352 I would play is this:

                        Mignolet
         
               Skrtel  Agger  Sakho

                    Lucas   Hendo

      Sterling        Coutinho      Moses

                  Sturridge  Suarez

      That's three in defence, five in midfield, and two up front... as the formation suggests...

      EDIT: woops, wrong thread
      Love the look of that team but would swap Gerrard for lucas then around the 65min mark sub Gerrard for Lucas, but against the lesser teams at home i would defo give that a try.

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