Luis Suarez (Real Madrid/Barcelona)

Go swivel Madrid

Does anyone think this is just a throw away bid to appease fans "see we tried" but that they don't actually expect to get him?

I mean let's be honest...they paid more than that for Bale, I highly doubt that if they really wanted him they'd bid anything less than 100m.

If they want him they'll have to pay the release clause. Even then we may refuse.

JWH wants to know what they're smoking at the Bernabeu

Scally, i've said this before, its time for agents to be regulated.  If I advised a company quoted on the stock market, and made statements that influenced the share price of those companies i'd be in big trouble.  Thats what the agents are doing (I now you know this already).  The transfer window(s) seem to be open season for agents to talk up their player-clients.  It damages the market, over-inflates a players value, de-stabilises club and player, and generally brings football into disrepute.  Its a little like insider trading; an extreme comparison maybe but there we are.  The worst thing is i've never met an agent who is not a total spiv.  In fact agents give spivs a bad name.

He's not going.

He's explained to his friends that he's happy here and is not seeking a move.

/thread

(Oh there will be much more speculation, fear-mongering and debating - but he's staying. There's no point even carrying on this discussion.)

Lock this thread and do us mere mortals a favour.

I was thinking on the Spurs and the season they had after selling Bale,terrifies me

I was thinking on the Spurs and the season they had after selling Bale,terrifies me

Bear in mind that it wasn't the selling of Bale but the failure to replace him with talent and then having two managers in one season that lead to their position. If Suarez has a release clause in his contract I just hope we have a player we're willing to replace him with.

We'll just ask for Bale in return 

When they want our most 'untouchable' player, we are after all asking only for their second most 'untouchable' player 

All the tiresome arguments were done last year.
And the crap ones were blown clean out of the water by two words - "Bale" and "Spurs".

Players like Luis are worth 70m for TWO reasons.
1)marketed, commercial revenue and the status of a club
2)winning games - imagine us without the goals, chances  and overall threat of Luis last yr.
We'd have gone from devastating to.. sad to say, not in the same league (ie Champions Lge).

It was a similar story with the Mancs - Ferguslime vs Moyes.

sh*t on a stick cu*ts! I wouldn't mind, but they still can't beat us in Europe.

Bear in mind that it wasn't the selling of Bale but the failure to replace him with talent and then having two managers in one season that lead to their position. If Suarez has a release clause in his contract I just hope we have a player we're willing to replace him with.

Right mate,especially the failure to replace him with talent

2)winning games - imagine us without the goals, chances  and overall threat of Luis last yr.
We'd have gone from devastating to.. sad to say, not in the same league (ie Champions Lge).

Imagine United without RVP for the other season, imagine Barca without Messi, imagine Real Madrid without Ronaldo, imagine City without Yaya last season.

Every team has a stand out player, that's how football works. There's always one player who has a great influence on the positive results that a team gets so you can shove your 'we wouldn't be in the Champions League' sh*t up your arse as far as I'm concerned. Sick of hearing and seeing people moan about how sh*t we would have been without Suarez, it's a null argument. Always trying to put their own team down for some pathetic reason and you're doing the same now!

We haven't had an in-form Suarez since about February, and look at how we've done since then.

11 game winning streak. God knows how many goals. 37/42 points. That is League winning form. Without our "star striker" being in-form.

Imagine United without RVP for the other season, imagine Barca without Messi, imagine Real Madrid without Ronaldo, imagine City without Yaya last season.

Every team has a stand out player, that's how football works. There's always one player who has a great influence on the positive results that a team gets so you can shove your 'we wouldn't be in the Champions League' sh*t up your arse as far as I'm concerned. Sick of hearing and seeing people moan about how sh*t we would have been without Suarez, it's a null argument. Always trying to put their own team down for some pathetic reason and you're doing the same now!

Nah lad, we would of been not as good without Suarez, he is F***ing boss like! Just look at his scoring record last season along with the number of goals created to.

Imagine United without RVP for the other season, imagine Barca without Messi, imagine Real Madrid without Ronaldo, imagine City without Yaya last season.

Every team has a stand out player, that's how football works. There's always one player who has a great influence on the positive results that a team gets so you can shove your 'we wouldn't be in the Champions League' sh*t up your arse as far as I'm concerned. Sick of hearing and seeing people moan about how sh*t we would have been without Suarez, it's a null argument. Always trying to put their own team down for some pathetic reason and you're doing the same now!

I don't think anyone is trying to put the team down. You don't honestly think we'd have challenged for the title without Luis do you? Please tell me that's not what you believe.

This is a problem that unfortunately goes beyond Suarez. If the player is Spanish, Portuguese or Latin American then Real is always going to be the team they dream about playing for and unfortunately, the world's best players are invariably from one of these places. We can only hope that Luis sees that Liverpool is built around him which is what makes him such a great player.

This is a problem that unfortunately goes beyond Suarez. If the player is Spanish, Portuguese or Latin American then Real is always going to be the team they dream about playing for and unfortunately, the world's best players are invariably from one of these places. We can only hope that Luis sees that Liverpool is built around him which is what makes him such a great player.

Wasn't it Suarez who said that Liverpool were the team he dreamed about playing for and were the team he'd always choose on the Playstation when he was younger?

Wasn't it Suarez who said that Liverpool were the team he dreamed about playing for and were the team he'd always choose on the Playstation when he was younger?

He's also said VERY flattering things about playing for Madrid and how it is every kid's dream (or something to that effect). I always thought the remarks about Liverpool were just him trying to get in good with the fans. That's just my personal opinion.

I think he'll be here next season but I wouldn't bet my house on it.

I'm not sure anyone can say with 100% certainty he will turn out for us next season.

I think he'll be here next season but I wouldn't bet my house on it.

I'm not sure anyone can say with 100% certainty he will turn out for us next season.

Was just thinking this.....he has said he wants to continue here and conveniently the rumors start after he leaves England for Uruguay and can't really respond. Seems like there isn't as much too this as the media would make out, but if Real really wants to buy him, they could offer a price that would be hard for FSG to refuse. Although after last summer with Arsenal, I really don't believe that Henry wants to get rid of his prized player. I'm like you, wouldn't bet my house, but I would be very surprised if he wasn't here next season.

Incredible to think how much his value has rocketed since we bought him.

Fullcredit has to be given to the manager and owners for teh way they have handled him and managed to get the best out of him.

Also full credit to Rafa for identifying him ands scouting him as a transfer target in the first place. If only we could have seen him play a season with Torres and Stevie!

He's also said VERY flattering things about playing for Madrid and how it is every kid's dream (or something to that effect). I always thought the remarks about Liverpool were just him trying to get in good with the fans. That's just my personal opinion.

Yeah was just wondering was all, mate.