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      The Woes - With a Spin! To keep certain people happy!!!!

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      The Woes - With a Spin! To keep certain people happy!!!!
      Oct 29, 2007 08:59:49 am
      Would we have taken played 10 / 20 points before the season had started - yes!  So a positive.

      Would we have taken played 3 / 1 point Champions League - No!  So a negative.

      Did some fans expect us to be serious challengers this term?  Yes, me for one!

      Did early season form, show this was justified?  Yes, we got the results!

      Are some fans dissapointed with our current performances / results - Yes.  Is this justified?  WHY NOT!

      Do we look like a team with confidence - NO.  WHY the hell not!

      I honestly believe, that rotation has caused us to look dis-jointed - we are not playing as a fluid team.
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      Reply #1: Oct 29, 2007 10:05:59 am
      I think many people are getting the ACTUAL amount of rotation that has taken place with the crippling amount of injuries the squad has suffered this season to date.

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      Reply #2: Oct 29, 2007 10:11:08 am
      Rotation has been done to death on here - but what's with this Formation Rotation that now seems to be happening!

      Rafa, likes to swap players and now he's swapping our style of play week in week out!
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      Reply #3: Oct 29, 2007 10:18:45 am
      If a player is injured he has to swap him ffs!

      This season JC, SF, AA, DA, FA, HK, JP, SG, MS, XA, JM, FT - have all been swapped-out as you put it - because they were not fit to play... or would you prefer them to play in a lovely formation and end-up playing like FT did yesterday - was crocked from the 1st minute!
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      Reply #4: Oct 29, 2007 10:59:57 am
      If a player is injured he has to swap him ffs!

      This season JC, SF, AA, DA, FA, HK, JP, SG, MS, XA, JM, FT - have all been swapped-out as you put it - because they were not fit to play... or would you prefer them to play in a lovely formation and end-up playing like FT did yesterday - was crocked from the 1st minute!

      Sorry but you are wrong!!!!

      We could have played Babel on the left and Yossi on the right yesterday - two natural wide players.  Get your facts right before you start putting your 'ffs' on this site please.

      But Rafa decided to play Kuyt and Voronin on the wings - which is a selection/formation disaster!
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      Reply #5: Oct 29, 2007 11:07:57 am
      Sorry but you are wrong!!!!

      We could have played Babel on the left and Yossi on the right yesterday - two natural wide players.  Get your facts right before you start putting your 'ffs' on this site please.

      But Rafa decided to play Kuyt and Voronin on the wings - which is a selection/formation disaster!

      Didn't realise this thread was only referring to yesterday.

      I (FFS) thought for a second it referred to all the games dating back to the start of the season. Silly me.

      Oh btw - frankly fine sir (= ffs)....what *were* you thinking? ;D.
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      Reply #6: Oct 29, 2007 11:09:42 am
      But Rafa decided to play Kuyt and Voronin on the wings - which is a selection/formation disaster!

      Such a disater that we drew against probably the best team in Europe right now ???
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      Reply #7: Oct 29, 2007 11:11:46 am
      you know what ffs meant!  And you're not funny!

      The formation was about yesterday and all our games.  I cannot be negative about injuries - that's no-ones fault.  But I can be critical of changing formations for the sake of the opposition and then playing people in positions they are not accustomed too!
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      Reply #8: Oct 29, 2007 11:14:06 am
      Such a disater that we drew against probably the best team in Europe right now ???

      The result was positive - the performance wasn't - in my opinion!

      In your words, Arsenal are the currently the best team in Europe.  Why aren't Liverpool - ED?  Surely that's negative, and show's something isn't quite right?

      So you're happy with Kuyt and Voronin playing on the wings then - silly me, I must be missing something.
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      Reply #9: Oct 29, 2007 11:15:31 am
      you know what ffs meant!  And you're not funny!

      The formation was about yesterday and all our games.  I cannot be negative about injuries - that's no-ones fault.  But I can be critical of changing formations for the sake of the opposition and then playing people in prositions they are not accustomed too!

      Sounds like you've been playing Football Manager too much on the old xbox...

      Rafa plays the cards with those available to him at that time - I thought we looked decent in the first half hour with that forward 3. Although Fernando looked short of pace from the very start.  I personally would have started with Yossi instead of Voro... but that's why Rafa is the manager and me and you are not. He decides. End of.

      Oh and I might not be funny - but I would have a decent bet you are a bit of a fanny though... ;0)

      Can you feel the love?
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      Reply #10: Oct 29, 2007 11:16:36 am
      silly me, I must be missing something.

      A brain - perhaps?
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      Reply #11: Oct 29, 2007 11:17:24 am
      Sounds like you've been playing Football Manager too much on the old xbox...

      Rafa plays the cards with those available to him at that time - I thought we looked decent in the first half hour with that forward 3. Although Fernando looked short of pace from the very start.  I personally would have started with Yossi instead of Voro... but that's why Rafa is the manager and me and you are not. He decides. End of.

      Oh and I might not be funny - but I would have a decent bet you are a bit of a fanny though... ;0)

      Can you feel the love?


      Another Wally getting personal - what's wrong with people not being able to banter there views!
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      Reply #12: Oct 29, 2007 11:22:34 am
      Another Wally getting personal - what's wrong with people not being able to banter there views!

      If you look for it - my view is in the middle of the personal stuff fella.

      Anyway, how did you know my name was Walter? (bit pesonal isn't it?)
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      Reply #13: Oct 29, 2007 11:33:23 am
      The result was positive - the performance wasn't - in my opinion!

      In your words, Arsenal are the currently the best team in Europe.  Why aren't Liverpool - ED?  Surely that's negative, and show's something isn't quite right?

      So you're happy with Kuyt and Voronin playing on the wings then - silly me, I must be missing something.

      Yes, on current form I believe Arsenal are the best team in Europe, I also believe though that we will have a run during which we will be the best team in Europe or close enough.

      Kuyt & Voronin didn't play on the wings yesterday, they played as wide strikers. Kuyt IMO did very well in the role, Voronin didn't, but that's a question of personell not tactics, I think the tactic worked well.
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      Reply #14: Oct 29, 2007 11:40:55 am
      Yes, on current form I believe Arsenal are the best team in Europe, I also believe though that we will have a run during which we will be the best team in Europe or close enough.

      Kuyt & Voronin didn't play on the wings yesterday, they played as wide strikers. Kuyt IMO did very well in the role, Voronin didn't, but that's a question of personell not tactics, I think the tactic worked well.

      They played as wide strikers on the WING!  So they are Stricker Wingers - that's a new one to me!

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      Reply #15: Oct 29, 2007 11:42:38 am
      No mate, there is a big difference between wide strikers and wingers, and I know you're intelligent enough to know the difference so I'm not gonna go into it.
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      Reply #16: Oct 29, 2007 11:47:19 am
      No mate, there is a big difference between wide strikers and wingers, and I know you're intelligent enough to know the difference so I'm not gonna go into it.
      That's the first compliment you've given me - I knew you'd come round.  You're officially part of the Negative Gang.
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      Reply #17: Oct 29, 2007 12:16:10 pm
      They played as wide strikers on the WING!  So they are Stricker Wingers - that's a new one to me!



      No they didn't JAR and SF came up as wing backs on the offensive ... (JAR doing this rather badly for the record) ...and Kuyt and Voro acted as wide strikers on the offensive and as part of a 5 man midfield on the defence.

      You should study the game more... maybe you just get too wound-up with Rafa's beard or something to concentrate on what is actually going on? (just a thought).
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      Reply #18: Oct 29, 2007 12:24:50 pm
      No they didn't JAR and SF came up as wing backs on the offensive ... (JAR doing this rather badly for the record) ...and Kuyt and Voro acted as wide strikers on the offensive and as part of a 5 man midfield on the defence.

      You should study the game more... maybe you just get too wound-up with Rafa's beard or something to concentrate on what is actually going on? (just a thought).


      May be you're right -  I wish I was more like you !
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      Reply #19: Oct 29, 2007 12:34:40 pm
      May be you're right -  I wish I was more like you !

      You're not alone a lot of people do.

      Signed picture in the post at the end of the season if you stop winding all the sane people on here up. Pretty promise.

      Yours truly,
      God
      (not the Fowler variety either)

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      Reply #20: Oct 29, 2007 12:42:03 pm
      You're not alone a lot of people do.

      Signed picture in the post at the end of the season if you stop winding all the sane people on here up. Pretty promise.

      Yours truly,
      God
      (not the Fowler variety either)



      You'll soon be gone !
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      Reply #21: Oct 29, 2007 12:46:29 pm

      You wish.

      It's worth coming on here just to scramble your one (lost in space) neurone every afternoon.

      Can you feel the luuuuurve....?
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      Reply #22: Oct 29, 2007 12:52:41 pm
      You wish.

      It's worth coming on here just to scramble your one (lost in space) neurone every afternoon.

      Can you feel the luuuuurve....?

      You've given the game away about your age!

      My son is two and watches 'Nina and the Neurons' on Cbeebies.  Back tomorrow aren't you? 

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