Lucas Leiva (Inter Milan)

He seems to need quite a few games to get his form and his injuries have slowed him down somewhat. I have been a fan of his since dayone but he has slowed significantly since his injury a couple of years back.
We shoud let him go as long as we have a better replacement sadly that hasnt been the case for sometime and we shouldn't look to replace him with someone who costs less.

Selling Lucas would be the most retarded decision since the signing of Mario Balotelli.

Selling Lucas would be the most retarded decision since the signing of Mario Balotelli.

Indeed, seems to be an almost forgotten point that our form picking up coincided with Lucas being in the team, I don't know the stats now but when he was starting for us this season the points per game was incredible.

I don't believe that's simply coincidence and as for the assertion he's not dynamic enough well neither is Emre Can a dynamic footballer. He turns very slowly and his 0-20 is pretty slow, he's quick when he hits full stride but we've seen at RB he gets left for dead regularly in the one on one.

Joe Allen is far from the answer as a DM it's stupidity to even consider playing him there regularly. Further up the pitch he can hide more easily and just occasionally have an excellent game. DM is a role in the side that demands responsibility, demands someone who takes it upon themselves to fill that role and cover for others Joe Allen simply doesn't have the shoulders to carry that burden both metaphorically and literally.

Lucas is a great player to have in the squad. It is a real shame that he's lost a lot of speed and mobility due to injuries, but he's still among the best in terms of positioning, reading of the game and winning the ball back to us. He's not a prima donna who's going to demand starting every game; he's a great character other players respect; and I really don't think he wants to leave the club.

So why sell him? I would welcome a new DM in the team but we've lacked in terms of depth and Lucas offers that and experience in abundance.

I don't believe that's simply coincidence and as for the assertion he's not dynamic enough well neither is Emre Can a dynamic footballer. He turns very slowly and his 0-20 is pretty slow, he's quick when he hits full stride but we've seen at RB he gets left for dead regularly in the one on one

Exactly
100% agree
I rate can and he could be great but his lack of acceleration is alarming if chosen in the wrong position

Can't remember where I read it, but I saw somewhere that we averaged more points per game when Lucas started than any other Liverpool player managed this year. Why would you sell a player like that?

Allen better then Lucas....now you really are talking out of yer arse, Brendan!

http://www.thisisanfield.com/2015/05/report-brendan-rodgers-to-sell-lucas-as-he-prefers-joe-allen-in-midfield-holding-role

Dont know how reliable this article is but if its true that will leave us with Skrtel as our only senior player.Going to be very very stupid decision.

Idiotic.

If there is any truth in that then he should be sacked just for being a F***ing idiot.

Come on guys, last years links were way more believable. Remember how the media started beating up how Lucas changed agents to someone not based in England, or someone with minimal England-based players or something, so that meant he was leaving? And then Lucas changed something on his twitter and posted a picture of a light at the end of a tunnel and that was supposed to be it?

At least wait until they make up something juicy before falling for it. The old "BR has Allen now so Lucas is off to Serie A" was made up by a 14 year old on work experience. It's probably a 5 year old rumor.

Do we all just forget what happened the window before when a new one comes up?

i can see this one happening with the arrival of Milner and Can being quoted saying Brendan will move him into Midfield next season. Also the fact that BR for some reason rates Joe Allen ahead of Lucas.

he's 29(i think) now so has one big move in him to a top team before probably returning to his home town team back in Brazil to retire. the Question is does he want to spend the twilight years of his career fighting for a place in a struggling team or to be a starter for another top team. it all depends on what role Brendand wants him to play. he's a class DM but injury prone now meaning he wont get a big payday deal from us.

judging on the season that just ended, no way Allen is better than Lucas , now if BR really said that, well I don't know on what criteria,
they both got injured couple of times, we were more solid in midfield when lucas was on the pitch
 just cannot sell lucas unless we get a more reliable, solid defensive midfielder
  very happy with milner coming here, but honestly I don't see him as an infront of defence  midfielder
 YNWA

very happy with milner coming here, but honestly I don't see him as an infront of defence midfielder

Well, defending is easy to coach, so br should have no problem turning Milner and Hendo into top class defensive midfielders!!   

offer him new deal and sell Joe Allen to fund his new higher wages, he offers experiance and can help Can develop also loads of games next season with Europa so need a big squad but more importantly an experianced one.

This guy has had years of pelters from his own fans and never gone to the press or his agent to get a move away. If Rafa was after him last season I could have seen that, but Inter this season im not so sure...

Also, how Allen gets in the team ahead of him I have no idea - we should get shot of him way before Lukas!

They just signed Kondogbia. Hopefully means they leave Lucas alone.

Rumours circulating that we're looking to offload Lucas. Would we be ok with Can, Hendo, Milner or Allen as a DM? I'm actually not too confident and would prefer us to buy a specialist.

Rumours circulating that we're looking to offload Lucas. Would we be ok with Can, Hendo, Milner or Allen as a DM? I'm actually not too confident and would prefer us to buy a specialist.

This false comparison between Lucas and someone else as DM is absurd.

Lucas is a great lad but he is not the saviour everyone makes him out to be.  He's never been the same since getting injured in 2012.  He can be used in an emergency but he is not the longterm answer going forward.

The only player who we should be considering at DM is Can.  It's his best position, he doesn't give away stupid fouls like Lucas does, and he's young.  In fact Can is our best CM, period.  Play him at DM.  He's ready now.  And he can be our DM for the next 10 years.

Lucas is a great lad but he is not the saviour everyone makes him out to be.

Actually, from reading various posts on our midfield, it's probably only a handful (me included) that rates him and considers him to be our best DM.

He's never been the same since getting injured in 2012.  He can be used in an emergency but he is not the longterm answer going forward.

I agree, he's weakened since his serious injury in 2012 and is not our long term answer because of his niggley injuries, but for me, he is still our best DM, not only for his defensive work but for his composure and distribution in midfield, so that being, I see him as a starter.

The only player who we should be considering at DM is Can.  It's his best position, he doesn't give away stupid fouls like Lucas does, and he's young.  In fact Can is our best CM, period.  Play him at DM.  He's ready now.  And he can be our DM for the next 10 years.

How many times have we seen Can as a DM? Even his play style suggests he is more of a Toure type player. At Leverkusen, he wasn't even a DM? I believe it was Bender. For Germany, he doesn't even play DM, but more of a CM position.

Still surprised he is so underrated. It was only the turn of the year where he started playing and was one of our key players in many matches he started... a player that stifled and controlled Chelsea's midfield twice not too long ago, but now he's apparently too slow and we have better? Just don't see it, sorry

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1QDW-K9y5M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0kpGUDaQ94

And I'm sure there are many more, Lucas vs clips from 2015 you can watch to know it's not a one off performance.

Lucas is an enigma on this forum. Whenever we play big teams or he gets a run of games he is one of our best players, easily. He is the only DM in the squad, and he lets us play higher up the pitch. However, no matter what he gets slated as being too slow. Alonso was no speedster, neither was Hyppia.  Milner and Henderson are not DM's. I think BR thinks Can is going to be our Yaya but I dont' think so. In reality we are more solid defensively and a better unit when Lucas plays but he rarely gets credit for this and is always the first to be criticised. Henderson is quick so he's top drawer, Can is going to be top drawer, even Allen gets more leeway and I really can't see why.

Lucas is so sh*te that when he had a proper run in the side we went on a 13 game unbeaten streak.

This false comparison between Lucas and someone else as DM is absurd.

Lucas is a great lad but he is not the saviour everyone makes him out to be.  He's never been the same since getting injured in 2012.  He can be used in an emergency but he is not the longterm answer going forward.

The only player who we should be considering at DM is Can.  It's his best position, he doesn't give away stupid fouls like Lucas does, and he's young.  In fact Can is our best CM, period.  Play him at DM.  He's ready now.  And he can be our DM for the next 10 years.

Can might turn out to be the answer but we haven't seen much of him in that role. It seems to me that Lucas is the guy that Brendan tries to marginalise each season and yet he always ends up forcing his way into the starting the line up and being an important player. Was left out of the squad altogether at the weekend so it looks like he will be on his way which disappoints me I have to say. I just hope he isn't allowed to go on loan to some cheapskate Italian club, if he goes he has to be sold.