Liverpool 4-1 Leicester City: In game and Post Match discussion

But some would say there has been no visible progress on the pitch under Klopp.

Now needs to bed the defence down and we could be on for a title challenge.

Come on mate , a title challenge? Lets not get carried away. A good win but we are so  inconsistent  who knows how we are gona play against Chelsea. We are still gifting teams goals , nothing has changed there. Wait till we have a run of clean sheets or hard fought 1-0 wins before we start shouting about titles.

There isn't because those goals haven't translated into consistency. Going back as far as Rafa our problem has been a lack of consistency and under Klopp our problem is still a lack of consistency. Yesterday was fantastic, take nothing away from that, but we were fantastic against Arsenal and lost to Burnley. Enjoy yesterday for what it was but don't suggest it represents progress because only once we have consistency will their be progress and that remains to be seen.

Right ok, so sorting our attack out to the level that we have scored the most goals in 2016 doesn't represent progress towards the consistency you mention?

Every club in the world is chasing consistency because it is what wins titles ultimately but to say we won't have made progress until we are consistent doesn't really sit with me because if we were consistent we would be the finished product. I'm talking about progress towards that finished product.

'Enjoy yesterday for what is was' does my head in, why should I not feel optimistic about the future and where I think Klopp wants to take us?

There isn't because those goals haven't translated into consistency. Going back as far as Rafa our problem has been a lack of consistency and under Klopp our problem is still a lack of consistency. Yesterday was fantastic, take nothing away from that, but we were fantastic against Arsenal and lost to Burnley. Enjoy yesterday for what it was but don't suggest it represents progress because only once we have consistency will their be progress and that remains to be seen.

What on earth are you on about?
It's just 4 league games into the season and you are crying about consistency?

Enjoy the win FFS!

Sorting out the defence, still dreadful at times and finding some consistency, will go a long way to improving a serious challenge for the title.

I'm hoping this time around, that is exactly what will happen. We haven't seen Klopps preferred back 4 yet due to injuries and form, but hopefully that will be rectified next match, and may continue for some time.
It's still not cast in stone that he will continue with the same strike force as yesterday, and that is also a worry.

The problem with our play is that we play in short bursts of high intensity. How many times against Leicester did we break but slow down in the final third. All our goals came from quick incisive passing. But we still do not play consistently for 90 minutes.

The tempo of our high intensity game is never gonna last for 90 mins plus.
As long as we can keep passing and moving, and holding on to the ball at a slower pace in between the moments of high intensity, we should see games through, still able to create high intensity moments till the last minute. Anything else and we will be totally knackered and get picked off ion the last 15 mins.
When you are two goals to the good, it's a good tactic to slow the game down, as long as you keep possession.

I think we've given teams goals by getting caught out of position at the back occasionally. Anxiously pushed up to far pressing for a goal, and getting caught on the counter.
We didn't give Leicester to much which is a good sign, and Lucas' cock up was down to going for a simple drag back and studding the ball. Lost a bit of time and space, and that became a 50-50. in a lunge for the ball, he then toe pokes it across the box.  It wasn't really a breakdown from open play, just a miss cue on the ball, which to be fair is very rare.
Putting that aside, we continued to dominate 85% of the remainder of the match. So aside from the set back, we were consistent.

In the interests of keeping the overreacting to every game theme going here's my summary:
Klopp is a genius who can do no wrong, Milner was born to play left back, Leicester will get relegated without Kante and we're going to win the league.

https://twitter.com/mrboywunder/status/775022544676151296

Against Chelsea it wouldn't surprise me to see Sturridge drop to the bench, Coutinho to come in with Firmino as a false 9 and then Can coming in for Wijnaldum.

Agree could use that Just think the message it sends to winning team and Sturridge could be detrimental but if it gets the result .....

https://twitter.com/mrboywunder/status/775022544676151296

Our attack looks more fluid and cohesive without Coutinho in the front 3, doesn;t it?

I think it should be Lallana or Coutinho fighting for that deeper midfield role as I feel we should have at least 2 proper midfielders.

Great performance on the whole and 4 did not flatter us.  This game was Klopp through and through, and showed his philosophy. 

Glad that their goal didn't cost us too much when as has been mentioned it possibly should have been disallowed, but alls well that ends well.

It cost us going clear 5th on goal difference. Now you can say it doesn't matter now, but it does. The goal difference before today wasn't great, so a 4 goal margin was needed to go clear in 5th. Because of that, we're not.

With the new stand opening, there was only ever going to be one result, which we got. We set up and took the goals well, and it looks like Mane has won me over. We've been missing a forward who could give Bolt a run for his money, and it looks like we finally have it. However, he's only played sides that leave gaps and let us play so far, and there's still the Hulls and the Swanseas and the West Broms lurking over the horizon where he won't get either, so lets see how he deals with that.

Anyway, we're off to face Conte next, a coach who can organise a defence and nick wins out of nowhere. But even if we don't get a result down there, at least the trip will be over with, and half our trips to London will be already done.

Our attack looks more fluid and cohesive without Coutinho in the front 3, doesn;t it?

I think it should be Lallana or Coutinho fighting for that deeper midfield role as I feel we should have at least 2 proper midfielders.

Funny you should say that, for the past couple of week I have been questioning the whole Coutinho/Firmino/Mane partnership upfront... We rarely get anything worth while out of playing Firmino and Coutinho up front together... I have always felt  Coutinho would serve both LFC and himself play behind the front three

Brilliant result

positives - played some nice attacking football, front 4 looked good and linked up well, created good opportunities from a lot of areas on the pitch

negatives - defensive blunder, shocking loss of composure after the blunder and at the same point some players seemed to go into hiding.

Sorting out the defence, still dreadful at times and finding some consistency, will go a long way to improving a serious challenge for the title.

That's how i see it. I honestly think ourselves, City and Chelsea can each put up a fight for the title.

If we can continue to build, improve on our mistakes and develop our cohesion, i don't see why we cannot challenge for the title.

Where are the Red nets ?

I well remember the Red nets, seemingly a reminder who we are Liverpool !

I so love seeing us perform like we did yesterday. The footy is breathtaking at times, and on another day we could have had 6 or 7. In all fairness, take away the Lucas blip, and they still had 3 decent chances as well.
Migs made a couple of decent saves, which is what he's there fore, but his weaknesses still haunt me.
I do wonder if we can ever fully eradicate the Watford, Burnley sort of performances that continue to blight our seasons. I dearly hope so, but I can never put my finger on what causes them ! That makes them more frustrating.
I'm hoping that Jürgen will now deploy Sturridge in the No 9 role for as long as he is fit. It's clearly the most damaging to the opposition, as it creates so much cohesion with the other players.  We certainly looked a well balanced side yesterday, and I'm hoping Jürgen will continue with it. We've still got Can and Lovren to come in when needed, and Karius if necessary, along with others.
Looking forward to the Chavs game, but that won't tell us much as they are likely to come out to play. That makes it an open game which we will exploit. It's the games against the likes of Hull, Watford, Palace etc that we will be tested by, and our ability or inability to get through the 9 man defensive walls.
I'm hoping and praying it all comes good, but i've still got a very tiny niggle at the back of my mind, wondering iff !
If Jürgen can engineer a tactic and overcome that, i think i'm going to say the title could be ours.
I think I can sit back and enjoy the games against the top sides, It's the remainder that cause me to have the one eyed squint at the telly.

Not very likely. Les Plastica will park a bus (or possibly two) and try to catch us on a break. Conte is no fool and will do same as Mouninho in 2013/14 season. This will be a severe test for our team to break them down - ala Burnley.

I can possibly see Costa being sent off  (with Lovren if he is back).

Come on mate , a title challenge? Lets not get carried away. A good win but we are so  inconsistent  who knows how we are gona play against Chelsea. We are still gifting teams goals , nothing has changed there. Wait till we have a run of clean sheets or hard fought 1-0 wins before we start shouting about titles.

Think he already mentioned that didn't he?

Now needs to bed the defence down and we could be on for a title challenge.

As pointed out in another thread.  We've beaten 1st at home, beaten 2nd away and drawn against 3rd away.  We lost away at newly promoted Burnley but it's hardly like they wiped the floor with us.  Left our shooting boots at home - simple as that.   On the whole it's hard to look at the first 4 games and be negative.

The speed at which Matip and Mane seem to have settled in is positive.

Where are the Red nets ?

Gone.  Replaced again with white ones.

Double posting ay.....

Double posting ay.....

He's gotta keep up with me somehow.

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Great weekend all round.

Bring on those plastic cu*ts.

I thought we would need to score 4 to win, but apart from the 1 F**k up, we were fantastic. They were always going to create chances, they will against anyone.
All in all, great game and performance.