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      Lennon and Berbatov, Worth it or not?
      Mar 14, 2008 03:53:40 pm
      After seeing many articles in papers and on the internet about Lennon becoming availble I have been doing alot of thinking about whether or not he would be worth signing.

      Pro's:

      1. We need a winger that will stick out wide, has blistering pace and can put awesome crosses in
      2. He is very young and could learn a heck of a lot playing in the same team as Gerrard, he could become world class
      3. He can score goals
      4. Great passer and would be able to pick a striker out from distance if he is'nt able to get down the wing
      5. Would sign for us

      Cons:

      1. Can be inconsistent and let his head drop
      2. Sometimes tries to beat a player more than once and ends up losing it

      Overall:

      I think he would be worth it and we would only have to play around 10million for him

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJ3CfqGowFA

      At the start of this vid he megs 2 players.


      Berbatov I have also seen articles about. Ramos has is apparently considering cashing him in for 20million as long as he finds the right replacement.

      Pro's:

      1. Would be a great partner for Torres
      2. Great in the air
      3. Perfect at penalties
      4. Great technical ability
      5. Scores bags of goals
      6. Would sign for us as we can fulfill his ambitions

      Cons:

      1. Would he like playing in a team with rotation?

      Overall:

      I think he should be a definate purchase and I would like to point out that him and Lennon link up really well so with Lennon on the wing and Torres and Berb up front then it would be awesome, especially with Gerrard in the midfield.
      Ramos said if he can find a replacement so I have been thinking why not offer 15million plus crouch. Then sell Voronin and we would have Torres and Berb who would be the best pairing in the prem and kuyt as back up.


      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCOacwVLky0

      Some oustanding goals in this vid


      25mill in total for them both i reckon. COME ON RAFA GET THEM WHILE THEY ARE THEIR, DONT LOSE OUT TO THE TOP 3 IN THE TRANSFER MARKET.
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      Re: Lennon and Berbatov, Worth it or not?
      Reply #1: Mar 14, 2008 04:23:37 pm
      i think the sun will start shining from my arse if we get both of them for 25mil! they wouldnt cash in on a reported 25mil for berbatov alone not so long ago, why would they throw lennon in as well!?
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      Re: Lennon and Berbatov, Worth it or not?
      Reply #2: Mar 14, 2008 04:37:22 pm
      I think we can get lennon without a doubt if we go for him quickly and he would do great here. but i think berbatov would demand alot of money and would demand alot as a player in terms of rotation but what a player he is. With him and torres upfront we would destroy teams. Such a great player berbatov technique is sublime.

      Im a big fan of lennon too and hope rafa makes an offer and brrings him in, but who would we let leave because that would give us 3 RW.
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      Re: Lennon and Berbatov, Worth it or not?
      Reply #3: Mar 14, 2008 04:49:42 pm
      Im afraid I would have to disagree on Berbatov in fact I would probably be very disapointed if we did sign him for whatever reason.
      He is another player with the same tantrum type attitude as Cisse albiet not as flamboyant. He sulks he is moody and when he is not allowed to "EXPRESS HIMSELF" on the pitch he well just doesnt bother. He gives up doesnt try hard enough and quite frankly has the wrong attitude. Not take away from him he has great ability and the game comes easy to him, yet he wont battle and bleed blood and guts for the cause when needed especially if he is being marked really well. If we did end up signing him I would support him as I do all the players, but I just cant see Rafa going for this guy Im afraid.

      As for Lennon I would like to see him come to us he has bags of pace and battles hard, stands up to crap from players who are bigger than him and quite frankly I would swap him for Pennant in an instance.

      Talk about the tale of two spuds
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      Re: Lennon and Berbatov, Worth it or not?
      Reply #4: Mar 14, 2008 04:56:14 pm
      Don't know about berbatov he isnt a 20 a season and doesnt do it enough plus he wont fit into this new formation that we are playing so well at, if anythin we need a quailty winger more than a striker. He can also be a moody player when something doesnt go his way

      But for lennon, he would be a great player for liverpool he is quick an exciting to watch an still really young, and would well improve with classy players around him, think about the speed of torres, gerrard an babel an with lennons speed, that would scare any defence. av also here lennon is good mates with pennat.

      An if berbabtov would go I think man u would get him, but he is a quailty player but if it was me add take lennon. 
      « Last Edit: Mar 14, 2008 05:08:55 pm by lfc 4life »
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      Re: Lennon and Berbatov, Worth it or not?
      Reply #5: Mar 14, 2008 05:07:36 pm
      No striker will fit in with our new formation its 1 upfront ;D we will change it next season if we get a new striker
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      Re: Lennon and Berbatov, Worth it or not?
      Reply #6: Mar 14, 2008 07:22:29 pm
      I don't really rate the two of them. Berbatov has age against him now, definitley not worth any more than £15m and Lennon is not all that great.

      Would easily rather Villa & Quaresma
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      Re: Lennon and Berbatov, Worth it or not?
      Reply #7: Mar 14, 2008 08:08:13 pm
      I don't really rate the two of them. Berbatov has age against him now, definitley not worth any more than £15m and Lennon is not all that great.

      Would easily rather Villa & Quaresma

      I'm agreed with you 100%. We have discussed a lot of players we would like to come to Liverpool recently, and these two wouldn't be too high up on my list. I personally would prefer to invest £20-25 million in one world class player who can change the face of our club (you know who I'm talking about ;)) than £10 million in reasonable squad players. IMO we have good enough cover in most positions now, but we don't have world class players in each position yet, and that's the difference between being top of the league and playing catch-up nowadays.
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      Re: Lennon and Berbatov, Worth it or not?
      Reply #8: Mar 14, 2008 08:40:10 pm
      True but its hard to see us finding 50 million for them two players and then more for all the other players we need thats the only thing
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      Reply #9: Mar 14, 2008 08:55:44 pm
      I wouldn't have a problem with us buying Lennon as he'd give us options, although I wouldn't be ecstatic. He' d be good competition for Babel and it may raise both their games.  We'd still need a more established forward winger to play on the right side (I'd prefer a left footer to cut inside like Messi) and a new FB.

      Not interested in Berbatov don't think he has enough desire to play for a team like LFC, plus we'd have to revert to a 4-4-2 to accomdate him and that would leave us with the where to play Gerrard dilemma.
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      Reply #10: Mar 14, 2008 08:59:37 pm
      I wouldn't have a problem with us buying Lennon as he'd give us options, although I wouldn't be ecstatic. He' d be good competition for Babel and it may raise both their games.  We'd still need a more established forward winger to play on the right side (I'd prefer a left footer to cut inside like Messi) and a new FB.

      Not interested in Berbatov don't think he has enough desire to play for a team like LFC, plus we'd have to revert to a 4-4-2 to accomdate him and that would leave us with the where to play Gerrard dilemma.

      Thats true but any striker coming in will. Im sure we wont keep this formation next season we dont have the players for it, it leaves out others and unless they will be sold i can see it changing back.
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      Re: Lennon and Berbatov, Worth it or not?
      Reply #11: Mar 14, 2008 09:21:38 pm
      villa and quaresma definetly
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      Reply #12: Mar 14, 2008 09:38:20 pm
      I think everyone would prefer them 2 to berbatov and Lennon. Just depends on money in my opinion.
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      Re: Lennon and Berbatov, Worth it or not?
      Reply #13: Mar 14, 2008 09:47:38 pm
      Lennon keeps running up blind alley's without looking for team mates,often loses the ball putting the defensive team on the offence. No way worth more than 5mill.

      Berbatov's overall contribution and work rate are limited,his pluses are the goals he scores and makes...
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      Reply #14: Mar 15, 2008 11:30:56 am
      I wouldnt mind us getting the 2 but couldnt really see Spurs letting both come to us.
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      Re: Lennon and Berbatov, Worth it or not?
      Reply #15: Mar 15, 2008 09:56:14 pm
      Lennon keeps running up blind alley's without looking for team mates,often loses the ball putting the defensive team on the offence. No way worth more than 5mill.

      Totally agree. I've said before that Aaron Lennon is one of the most over rated players in the league and would not offer anything different to Jermaine Pennant. If we were to buy another right winger it should be of the highest quality and not just more  of the same.
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      Reply #16: Mar 16, 2008 06:58:59 pm
      Berbatov coudn't lace Villa's boots
      No contest
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      Re: Lennon and Berbatov, Worth it or not?
      Reply #17: Mar 17, 2008 08:01:54 pm
      Lennon keeps running up blind alley's without looking for team mates,often loses the ball putting the defensive team on the offence. No way worth more than 5mill.

      I agree with the assessment of Lennon, but in todays market he would be worth more than 5 mill. One thing he does have is potential, at the moment he's a lot of running around with little end product, but then so was Christiano Ronaldo in his first season.

      Given our current position I wouldn't buy him though, we need players for the here & now. Lennon would take the best part of a season to adjust, and then there's always the chance that he may not adjust at all.
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      Reply #18: Mar 17, 2008 08:26:13 pm
      One thing about new signings does make me think alot. What if we bought a few of these players we all think we need e.g. Quaresma, Villa and at least one or two of them didnt adjust and we fell off the pace in the prem again. Would people just blame it on something else?

      I always think although a player can be great there is no guarantee they will adjust to the prem and do well here and the amount you shell out for them makes it a big risk to be taking. Im not saying im against it atall i want big names at the club and want them to succeed here but it does seem that some players really do struggle to adjust to the pace and difficulty of playing in the premiership.
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      Re: Lennon and Berbatov, Worth it or not?
      Reply #19: Mar 18, 2008 07:20:22 am
      1. We need a winger that will stick out wide, has blistering pace and can put awesome crosses in

      Reminds me alot of Jermaine Pennant.


      Your thinking one of the hottest prospects in English football will be let go for 5 million pounds? He is easily 10 million and upwards, its all about potential.

      Lennon would take the best part of a season to adjust, and then there's always the chance that he may not adjust at all.

      To our club or the style of game?
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      Re: Lennon and Berbatov, Worth it or not?
      Reply #20: Mar 18, 2008 07:48:00 am
      I would seek to play say Ashley Young (Villa) in the Role intended for Lennon. His game is really good plus he has the best assist this season. There are also strikers we could take off Aston Villa that, with the Rafa-touch, could become prolific strikers. John Carew and Gabriel Agbolahor; and I also think they are very dedicated and they will come cheaper than Berbatov.
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      Re: Lennon and Berbatov, Worth it or not?
      Reply #21: Mar 18, 2008 08:19:02 am
      I don't think Lennon has anymore talent or potential than Pennant.  I can't see the point in buying him.

      Berbatov has a good touch, great skill and can find the back of the net but he is lazy.  If he loses the ball or a pass fails to find him he stops playing.  He has no work ethic. (To understand what he should be doing see Torres F.)

      So no thanks.
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      Re: Lennon and Berbatov, Worth it or not?
      Reply #22: Mar 18, 2008 08:19:15 am
      Would love us to buy ashley young he's excellent such an exciting player, But i dont want carew he isnt good enough for us and Agbonlahor is great but is a villa fan so he's going nowhere.

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