West Brom 0-2 Liverpool - Post Match Celebrating

Disappointed we didn't smash more than 2 past them.

A win coloured by disappointment of not winning the title. Carra was in the wrong to do what he did on the pitch, and still looked like he was going to carry it on off the pitch at the end. I don't want to see discord in our defensive ranks. Some of them were obviously thinking more about their summer holidays.

Let's get rid of some of the duffers and get some real potent talent in to storm to the title next season...

That'll do.

Should be enough to secure second place.

Could obviously have played a lot better. Many of the players showed signs of huge frustration, which is understandable. After the effort they've put in this year, to finish it empty handed must be hard to take. Not an excuse for Carra to lash out at Arbeloa, but I'm sure that will be dealt with swiftly behind the scenes by Rafa.

Crackin lump on Greening's head there, and I can't hear Arbeloa screaming in the dressing room, so it must be OK!

Disagree.

Carra's reaction was bang out of order IMO.

All Carra done was bollock him for not being more alert. I don't see why Arbeloa had to get up and push Carra if that's the angle you're looking at. Bottom line, personally I was pissed off with Arbeloa before that incident because he was looking too casual and allowing players to get crosses in.

Anyway, we got the win. A few players turned up today and a few didn't. Lucas was boss I thought.

No excuses for Carra but i too was sick of alot of the player's attitudes today and Arbeloa found himself to be the wrong man at the wrong time. Carra just snapped. Let it go. But what i am not happy about is Arby retaliating with a big shove as if 'why should i care?'. For that i hope he gets some punishment. Ridiculous.

As for the game, the attitude of Gerrard, Dirk, Lucas and Carra shone thorugh what was a dull bunch. Disappointed to see such bitterness in our ranks after yesterday.

Gerrard MOTM. He had a great game, an assist and goal and lead us around gallantly.

All Carra done was bollock him for not being more alert. I don't see why Arbeloa had to get up and push Carra if that's the angle you're looking at. Bottom line, personally I was pissed off with Arbeloa before that incident because he was looking too casual and allowing players to get crosses in.

Anyway, we got the win. A few players turned up today and a few didn't. Lucas was boss I thought.

Totally agree, makes me think i shouldn't have posted because you've summed up my feelings perfectly RK.

Disappointed that we didn't get a few more but seeing as my betfred account wouldn't allow me to bet gerrard first goal and 3-0 to us for some reason i'm a bit glad that i never missed out on 50quid But 4-0 would've done me nicely.

Have to say brilliant from the West Brom fans. 2-0 relegation certain and no-one left or stopped singing until the final whistle (actually i bet they're still singing now) There seemed to be more pride inside the Hawthornes today than there was in OT yesterday when utd won the title.

Overall, not a great game but two nice finishes from Stevie and Dirk who have been terrific all season and just glad to see us get all 3 points.
2nd place wrapped up(unless we lose to spurs next week and chelsea pick up 6 remaining points available, closing a 7 better GD in the process)

Is this the best season away from home we've ever had?

Xabi was defo telling Carra to leave it out with Arbeloa there at the end.

I certainly don't blame Carra.
Clearly the defending was all over the place, even if there's no chance for a title this shouldn't be the way to play.
Arby did look out of sorts today and was unlucky i suppose.
We need all our players to have Carra's winning mentality if we're gonna mount a title challenge next season.

Xabi was defo telling Carra to leave it out with Arbeloa there at the end.

He was breaking them up mate. It looked like neither of them was going to back down, not just Carra.
I understand how frustrated they must be after seeing the title slip away yesterday so i think it was just something out of the ordinary and it should be all sorted out soon.

Wasn't a great performance we looked like what we were a team with nothing to place for, we had no urgency a win is a win though. West Brom are very poor definetly deserve to go down. Wouldn't look much into the row between Carra and Arbeloa, shows how passionate Carragher is, I bet there laughing about it in the changing room now, Torres was as poor as I've seen him today. He was completely disinterested, he still is best striker in Europe though. There was way to much space for West Brom in midfield today when Masch went off shows how vital he is.

I was at work and only caught about half an hour. It looked easy enough but then again, it should be against poor teams.

I can understand their frustration but there's no need on taking it out on your fellow team mates.

We got the win, maybe not in the best of fashion, but we did the job.

I think the players just need a long rest, it has been a very long and hard season.

I can understand their frustration but there's no need on taking it out on your fellow team mates.

We got the win, maybe not in the best of fashion, but we did the job.

I think the players just need a long rest, it has been a very long and hard season.

what she said

It's a shame that Carra flipped like that and it boiled over because the chances are people will remember this season for that and not having such a strong league campaign and destroying United.

It's a shame that Carra flipped like that and it boiled over because the chances are people will remember this season for that and not having such a strong league campaign and destroying United.

I wouldn't think so, 

There've been too many high points this season IMO, I don't think one squabble will be enough to tarnish the significant progress I feel we've made.

I wouldn't think so, 

There've been too many high points this season IMO, I don't think one squabble will be enough to tarnish the significant progress I feel we've made.

Without doubt we have made significant progress and it has been a cracking season but i'm just thinking that people will remember that because it never happens between our players. Am i right in saying the last on pitch squabble was Macca and Grobelaar?

Id say the 4-1 Old Trafford might just be remembered more than that little bit of handbags Kenny.

Well Steve McMahon certainly didn't have many complains about Carra in the post match show here on ESPN!! He said that Carra had every right to have a go at Arby because he wasn't doing his job properly!!

Id say the 4-1 Old Trafford might just be remembered more than that little bit of handbags Kenny.

I'm on about with the people who aren't reds because you know how everybody always tries to over look our achievements. As far as i'm concerned it's done and dusted. Rafa will talk to them about it and i very much doubt it will happen again.

2-0 win will do me.

A few minor negative points, but they'll get sorted.

Gerrard and Lucas were brilliant.

Benitez on the Carragher-Arbeloa spat: "We know Pepe Reina has 18 or 19 clean sheets and we were pushing for him. It's not a good message - but the character they showed is positive."

Dealt with that well enough. Didnt blow it up, didnt ignore it.

Insua had a stinker too btw.

Rafa:

"They show character"

He's not bothered about the squabble, they are just busting a gut to get Pepe a 4th Golden Glove

yeah its a mad one this game... but you gotta give west brom credit, its a shame to see them go down.

Carra and Arbeloa, its just like any situation in a work enviroment ... sometimes you have a kick off in work and hate eeach other for about 10 minutes, then sort it out and be mates again. Carra was just pissed off thats all and took it out on Arbeloa... Alonso jumped in and stopped it nothing more. HAHA I bet Gerrard said to Carra "Its us English against the Spanish here Carra, so shut the F**k up" haha...

But on a serious note, 2 - 0 is good for a team fighting for their lives really. Did the job didn't we so thats that.

Have to say though the Torres was poor, and has been off pace, and off the touch since coming back from his injury. Its worrying but I'm sure he'll be back to normal next season. Never seen him play so bad to be honest today.

Man of the Match had to be ... LUCAS, thought he had a great game

I dont find anything wrong with what Carra did tbh. He was just telling him to do his job better as he was being awful. What leaders do. Arbeloa was the one that stood up and pushed Carragher and he only reacted. if anything, Arbeloa's fault for reacting over something like that.

Anyways, good win, it was tough, but what could you expect when their fighting to stay up?

Lucas was motm for me. Fantastic!

Babel, where do i start?  :

A win is a win, and three points in the bag.

Although I was disappointed with the way Carra/Arby carried on, it does show passion in the team, which we all want to see, I had noticed though in the game that Carra seemed to be covering for Arby at times so maybe that was the straw that broke the camel's back and Carra just snapped, don't like to see that though, I expect Rafa to have words.

Shame Torres is still one short of his 50th goal, I must admit he looked sluggish today, I suspect he's ready for a holiday. Likewise Lucas was boss today, and has really come into his own in the last few months.

Gerrard was involved in everything today and was unlucky not to get a penalty at the end of the first half, when he was blatantly shoved off the ball  :

Feel a bit sorry for the WBA fans, they deserve better,  and all credit to their fans for staying right to the end, your a credit to your club, had that of been manure they would have left 10 mins before the end.

Without doubt we have made significant progress and it has been a cracking season but i'm just thinking that people will remember that because it never happens between our players. Am i right in saying the last on pitch squabble was Macca and Grobelaar?

That's exactly my view there mate. It never happens. If it was a vague regular occurrence then a lot of criticism would be justified for it in my opinion. But it's obviously not a problem. Sure it will be laughed by them, sooner or later for both players over reacting.

good win. plus gerrard scored again. that makes it even better.
as for the carra-arby thing, no comments. it only showed carra's passion. he doesn't want the manure 'keeper winning the golden glove, does he?

Good to see West Brom putting up the fight, but unfortunately feel sorry for them for their relegation. They have been good, Mowbray's a good manager if not for their dismal defending, that definitely needs some sorting out.

Other then that, we didn't have a good game, but still we won against the run of play, we showed character a day after the scum was crowned champions. We displayed a true spirit which will be very important next season.

Solid win.

Happy with the result, 0-2 away against a team fighting for their Prem Lives, is not bad. Could have been so much more too.

Fair play to West Brom, they gave it a good go, and hopw they come back up next season.

Highest points in the EPL for us ever, and with any luck against the Spuds, a 2 goal win will give us a 50+ GD!

Little nervous at the back, but another clean sheet is a good result. Kuyts Goal was class too.

I point the finger of not wiinng the EPL at Mr Keanes door (and Parry's), too many F***ing draws at home when Torres was injured. Anyone got the stats of this or was it just my immagination.

Just need cover at the sharp end I feel.

If I'm not mistaken, I think Stevie and John Arne had a short argument against Arsenal when we lost 3-0 in 2006/2007.

It just shows how much Carra wanted to keep a clean sheet, but I think he didn't have to push Arbeloa in the chest. Looked like 'Spanish vs English' when Xabi stepped in . Ironically, an Englishman was helping a Spanish keep a clean sheet.

Still a good win. West Brom did gave me a scare at times but congratulations Liverpool. Highest point total in an EPL season. Stevie and Dirk breaking their own personal goal records.

That Carra-Arby thing was nothing, would have been sorted straight after the match. Both players know that it was nothing and came out of a disagreement about their defending. They will both be glad to get the clean sheet though.

However, a good win today, hopefully we will beat Spurs too.

Only 2 pages after another away win? Where is every one?

Good win, and performance. Shame to see West Brom go down, but we can't be merciful at this stage.

Lucas MOTM for me, had a fantastic game.

Here we go

Jamie Carragher has insisted Pepe Reina's bid for this season's Golden Glove award was behind his on-field disagreement with Alvaro Arbeloa during Liverpool's 2-0 victory at West Brom.

"We can't win the league now but there are a number of targets we can aim for," said Carragher after the game. "We want to keep a clean sheet and we want Pepe to have a chance of the Golden Glove for the third season running. Pepe is one behind Van der Sar now and there's a chance Van der Sar won't play next week, so we wanted to make sure he got a clean sheet today.

I can understand that Carra wants to keep the clean sheet and Arby probably wasn't at his best at the back today. I just feel for Arby, .

Arbeloa made the block so I dont see what his point is. As a hole we looked tired and understandably so. Still good progress has been made and with only a few signings we should get close next year.

Carra should have kept his spat for the dressing room, he was out of order to have a go at one guy on the field of play, when half the team were not up for the game, Carra should have known better being one of the leaders. (Did you see Carra's face, his eye's looked wild) I wonder what he would do if a player lazily strolled through two games on the trot. God help him..

As for the game, it was over as a contest after we got the first goal, they tried hard and but for Pepe they nearly scored first but his double save was really well done. I wonder what would have happened if they had scored, most of our players were already on their hols...

The ref today was nothing more than useless, I wondered at times if he were needed, we should have had two blatant pens and some of the tackles or arm pulling that he let go was scandalous and he is one ref I hope to never see again, Bloody Martin Atkinson....

Carra is the defence general in our team and although him and Arbeloa had a spat i think it shows how much Carra puts into this club and he takes each game personally ,probably a bit of frustration ( as someone has already said ) at coming so close to the title ...not a bad attitude to the game if you want to win titles though

In a match 1 day after you've just lost out on the title, emotions are running high, it happens. Carra and Arby will laugh it off later on.

Just shows the determination of the players.

Can't disagree more with people defending Carra. He was out of order, if it was the other way around people would say Arbeloa was in the wrong (people are still saying that anyway...) the fact of the matter is that it showed our defense was not as one, after he did it, West Brom were by far the better team and unlucky not to have pulled at least one back.

Just because hes scouse doesn't give him the right to fight with the foreigners, and that is why Xabi went over to yes break them up, but also at FT had words with Carra. Put it this way, I expect it would have been Carra - not Arbi in the doghouse in Rafas office after the final whistle. Carra was merely frustrated at another year without a title IMO.

Having said that, my MOTM would have been Carra, he was by far the most concentrated out there before his outburst. Was a pretty poor performace though overall, but 2nd spot seems assured, but I fear that a home defeat is on the cards against Spurs next week. We certainly must play better, and be more of a unit than we were today.

Finally credit to West Broms fans, showed our usual home support up well and truly!

Anybody who thinks Carra was wrong today are the wrong ones. If we could still win the title then people would be on saying he was spot on and what passion etc. He shows the required passion every game why should he drop his standards? Arbe was caught napping and rightly got bollocked by Carra. It was Arbe who shoved Carra. In my opinion hes lucky Carra didn't chin him.

Cracking finish by Johan Kuyt  . Another 3 points another clean sheet for Pepe. Lucas was good again. Onwards and upwards   

Just because hes scouse doesn't give him the right to fight with the foreigners

What's that got to do with anything though?

Personally, long before the incident happened I was getting concerned at Arbeloa's casual approach to the game. And on more than one occasion I seen Carra waving his arms in the direction of Arbeloa, before they ended up shoving each other.

It's already been said by the player and the manager that it was down to us wanting to keep a clean sheet, so that's were the frustration obviously came from. It was nothing but handbags at worst.

And if it was the other way around, I'd be saying the exact same thing.

I don't see why you're indicating people are defending him because he is scouse. That's got absolutely nothing to do with it.

It sickens me that people are having a go at Carra for simply doing what he does every game. Whether he's scouse cockney or Chinese has f**k all to do with the fact that his attitude was the same as always and he had a go at someone who defended like he would rather be in his local getting hammered

All this bullshit about Carra and Arbeloa
So What! 

All it says to me is they are 100% committed to our cause, even when we can't win the league.
Passion Hunger Desire
Go on Jamie Lad. 

What's that got to do with anything though?

Personally, long before the incident happened I was getting concerned at Arbeloa's casual approach to the game. And on more than one occasion I seen Carra waving his arms in the direction of Arbeloa, before they ended up shoving each other.

It's already been said by the player and the manager that it was down to us wanting to keep a clean sheet, so that's were the frustration obviously came from. It was nothing but handbags at worst.

And if it was the other way around, I'd be saying the exact same thing.

I don't see why you're indicating people are defending him because he is scouse. That's got absolutely nothing to do with it.

spot on mate that's been coming for arebeloa befrore carra had a go at him he was anonymous just like he's been for a lot of games this season.

Agree that Carra took his frustration out on Arbeloa but I've read his explanation on the LFC site and he was frustrated that WBA managed to get so many chances and blames our sloppy defence - which is true IMO, just proves how Carra will fight for the cause all the way.  I know which player I'd always want in our back four and it's Carra.  Maybe should have left the 'spat' for the dressing room but I think he was so desperate to keep a clean sheet and Arbeloa needed a 'slap'.  Now time to forget and on to the Spurs game and just hope Keane doesn't get to make his point next week!

Agree that Carra took his frustration out on Arbeloa but I've read his explanation on the LFC site and he was frustrated that WBA managed to get so many chances and blames our sloppy defence - which is true IMO, just proves how Carra will fight for the cause all the way.  I know which player I'd always want in our back four and it's Carra.  Maybe should have left the 'spat' for the dressing room but I think he was so desperate to keep a clean sheet and Arbeloa needed a 'slap'.  Now time to forget and on to the Spurs game and just hope Keane doesn't get to make his point next week!

He had time to make his point, it'd be too late to make it now.

He'll miss a 2 yard sitter and then jump over Reina.

Not as much celebrating in this thread as the title would suggest.

I thought this was a well earned win. West Brom gave us a good go and credit to them for sticking to the football they've believed in all season. The other teams who've played scrappy football might survive and it's a crying shame that they've gone down in place of them.

We didn't set the world alight but we still came out on top. Hopefully we're going to carry these new characteristics through to next season.

Just to add about the Carra - Arbeloa tiff. Arbeloa did seem a little lax in his approach to this match. I realise that the title race is over and it's not as important but we still need to approach each match in the same way if we're to keep our run going. Carragher was obviously pissed off with him but he really should have waited until after the match if he was that bothered. Just wondering what Arbeloa's response was to Carragher's 'constructive criticism' while he was on his arse.

Alot of players make mistakes but there is no need for what Carra did.... Carra hasnt been great this season, maybe I sound harsh here... but if you minus the own goals he scored v hull and spurs we may still be in this race....but yeah that was a mistake ..... and you never saw any other team mate come up and push carra for them incidents respectively..... Carra's behaviour this season has been shocking at times, rufusing to play right back also... kick off with pelligrino.... this isnt on... the last thing we want is, our morale to get effected by someone trying to be a biggy... you dont see Gerrard like that with his team mates..... and Gerrard is the captain, and rightly so.

Be honest people for Christ sakes!!

When Tevez and Ronaldo threw the dummies out the pram we jumped on it, this is exactly the same but worse, they were arguingwith each other. It does not show passion, it does not show commitment. It shows a complete lack of discipline and down right petulence. It is not how Liverpool go about things, Hicks and Gillette have had alot of criticisms for bickering in public, again this is just the same.

Can do without it.

To be fair, Jamie said Arby had sh*t trabs and Alvaro reacted by calling Carragher a woolyback.

I think Jamie was a slight pissed off with Saturday's viewing and Arbeloa was standing up for himself. What does need pointing out is that I didn't see anyone in green having a go at Jamie when he made a c**t out of himself at Upton Park last week.

I even found Carraghers comments on MOTD a bit embarrasing, as Pepe was doing a fine job of keeping a clean sheet himself.

In terms of the game, we did alright, but looked a bit like our hearts really wasn't in it with the notable exceptions of Reina, Gerrard, Lucas and Dirk. IMO

Torres was totally out of it today

Exactly when Carra was called dallying on the ball last week, that would have led to a goal if it was anybody with decent studs in. Nobody had a pop because its not the done thing. Can't have double standards within the ranks. Be it gerrard, carra, lucas or n'gog. Everybody is equal - as rafa says its about the squad!

On a more positive note, thought Lucas played very well today, looking far more assured, and the fans seem to be laying off him a bit more, and not before time.

This is a lot of nothing and would be over before the players had changed. Its not the first time players have had words or shoved each other on the pitch. No harms done.

To me Torres looked like he was scared to push it today. Maybe he wasnt 100%?

 We got the 3 points and that should be enough to finish second.I was disappointed in our standard of football and felt that Alonso made a difference when he came on with his passing.There has been enough said about Carra and Arbeloa but it is sad when something like that happens with our own players.We do not need this sort of infighting at L.F.C. Lets hope everyone gets their act together for Spurs and we send Sami Hypia out on a high

West Brom defender Jonas Olsson has played down his on-field spat with Steven Gerrard in Liverpool's 2-0 win at The Hawthorns.

"I screamed at him, 'You're too good to dive like that'," Olsson told Aftonbladet. "He said that he didn't dive and that it was a penalty.

"There is always banter going on during the game, especially in the heat of the moment. But I have the utmost respect for Gerrard. He is one of the best players in the world.

"It is one-on-one at the end. During the last half hour, I faced Gerrard, Torres and Kuyt, that means there will be chances. When Kuyt made it 2-0 I wasn't perfect, but it is a tough situation."

carra the man if he carrys the defence the top hat
for having ago  at his team mates if they not do the job
 some relax playing from some of the team
1 game left and a rest for some of the team

 ynwa