Why is our defence so shaky?

I think we've done fairly well given that we've played a right back just in one occasion-leeds utd.

With the 3-6-1-1 formation we have we are bound to score more goals and be more shaky at the back.

Its a good thing that our RM Johnson helps defending so often.

3-6-1-1?

Torres Kuyt
Gerrard
Insua,Benayoun, Masch, Lucas, Carra, Johnson
Skrtel
Reina

maschs form is off that isnt helping either.

Does anyone know that latest on Agger?  Will he be fit for Chelsea this weekend?

Does anyone know that latest on Agger?  Will he be fit for Chelsea this weekend?

i dont think he will start with Agger, i have a feeling he is gonna go Greek to handle Drogba as Carra has always struggled with him.

Cheers jamo.  I was hoping for Agger, oh well.  No pressure Kyrgiakos!

I think we have gone from a phylosophy of starting games intending not to get beat to winning games from the off and as we are playing up the pitch a little higher I think the 2 centrebacks are being found out for pace. Equally we seem unable to defend corners anymore which has got nothing to do with pace so my arguments make no sense at all. Maybe we are all over reacting but I think we have gone from solid fullback ie Finnan to wingbacks who can defend ie Johnson and may this has exposed us a bit more but on the plus side how goals did we bang in at the end of last season and the begining of this. Lets hope we keep going forward if they score 2 we'll score 3 (At Anfield only).

I thought Carra was in a better position to clear than Skrtel? Skrtel like tried his best to get a touch and it ended up at Geovanni's feet.

I believe with time, our back 4 will be more settled.

Thats it, but expecting more from Carra...Once Dan is coming to the team...Skrtel will have less pressure..
Skrtel is a born defender so is carra....We will work it out ....

Perhaps we should have hung on to Hypia for another season. As he always served us well at the centre of defence

Perhaps we should have hung on to Hypia for another season. As he always served us well at the centre of defence

Would have been great to hang on to Sami but he wanted first team football week in week out and that wouldn't have been guaranteed at Liverpool.

Apart from Carra's one mistake which led to Malouda's goal, I thought Carra and Skrtel were pretty flawless at the back.

Perhaps we should have hung on to Hypia for another season. As he always served us well at the centre of defence

Excellent point mate, couldn't agree with you more.
How we could do with Sami's experience now.

Would have been great to hang on to Sami but he wanted first team football week in week out and that wouldn't have been guaranteed at Liverpool.

Apart from Carra's one mistake which led to Malouda's goal, I thought Carra and Skrtel were pretty flawless at the back.

Apart from that one mistake from Jamie,  him and Skrtel were handling everything that came to them on the ground. We still have a huge problem with ariel threats though. Skrtel is 6ft4" Carragher is 6ft1", they should be at least decent at heading balls away but at stamford bridge chelsea won almost every header. We're lucky they never got a decent attempt on goal. We need to sort out aeriel threats. Its a basic skill and we dont have Sami anymore.

Yeh I reckon its to do with the full backs,
With that Giovanni goal v Hull it was this in the box :
 ________________________ ____________________
 |                            |_________ |                           |
 |                                                                          |
 |                    H L       H L                                      |
 |                                                    H                    |         L

H = Hull, L = Liverpool
Insua being the one out far right
This SURELY has to have something to do with that goal

As I say, this is just an example of the full backs
Yes they are quality, but just maybe better wingers than defenders

Insua is too good...But he is not supporting Carra in Big matches...
Skrtel and Carra are a bit rusty now a days... I am waiting for Agger.

Apart from that one mistake from Jamie,  him and Skrtel were handling everything that came to them on the ground. We still have a huge problem with ariel threats though. Skrtel is 6ft4" Carragher is 6ft1", they should be at least decent at heading balls away but at stamford bridge chelsea won almost every header. We're lucky they never got a decent attempt on goal. We need to sort out aeriel threats. Its a basic skill and we dont have Sami anymore.

Would have been great to hang on to Sami but he wanted first team football week in week out and that wouldn't have been guaranteed at Liverpool.

Apart from Carra's one mistake which led to Malouda's goal, I thought Carra and Skrtel were pretty flawless at the back.

Skrtel and Carra pretty flawless....And carra's that one mistake costed us the game....
Then what do you mean by flawless.... I think it is the time to get some rest for carra...It is because of him skrtel performance is getting affected.