Gonzalez to Go

Took me a bit by surprise.. from LFC.tv

Mark Gonzalez is set to leave Liverpool for Real Betis after one season at the club. 

Rafa Benitez today confirmed the two sides had "almost" reached an agreement over the Chilean winger.
 
Bolo Zenden, whose contract expires in the summer, has also been told he can talk to other clubs.
 
Benitez said: "I was talking with him before and I said he could talk with other teams. He knows the situation.
 
"It's clear some players will leave. We almost have an agreement with Real Betis for Mark Gonzalez." 

Good news that JD, never really seen the best of Gonzalez I have to say, didnt do much after his debut goal.  And as for Zenden, well, did he have a best 

Bit surprised about Gonzales. I thought he might have got a bit more time to show what he can do. Although saying that if Rafa feels he isn't going to be good enough there is no point keeping him any longer. Looking forward to see who will be bought in place of him!!

If we are buying players we need to bring in 'winners'...players with the 'must try to win but must ALWAYS perform' attitude. Surely young players should be brought up through the academy as much as possible now.

Zenden had experience but can't say much else.

Surprised, but i like this in rafa, it was the same with nunez, if he thinks their not going to cut it, he gets rid, no messing.

Thought we may have gotten another season out of him JD - but if the lad can't settle than let him go.
As for Bolo, I'm sorry, but his exit couldn't come quick enough for me.

sh*t! I didn't see this coming! I'm gutted  He's sooo cute  Hehe.

The boys I was with last night, 2 of them were saying they thought Gonzalez could be awesome but just hadn't shown it yet, and I agreed!

I hope Zenden goes though  Never been a fan of his.

Football is so demanding now that if you aren't an academy playing coming through like a Gerrard or a Carragher you haven't alot of time to impress. IF a manager has laid out millions for you because you show 'class' then you need to adjust quickly otherwise instead of a 'team of carraghers' we would have a 'team of shev's'.

No shock really he hasnt really impressed when he has played maybe if he was give a decent run in the side hed be better but we need better players who can perform week in week out.

He never showed us what he played like in spain
Maybe he just wasnt suited to tha Prem but i didnt think he was getting any better

For some players the EPL is too physical, and from what I saw of him on more than one occasion he does not like the physical side of the game. He went down on a number of occasions in games where I thought that he was really badly injured, and yet we find out a day later its a sore something or other and nothing is broken or ripped or torn or even bad.
I think that Rafas no nonsense approach is indeed the only way to send out the message to gold diggers, and if you are any player of any quality you should have the self respect of not needing to have a settle in period. A good player jumps straight in at the start and shows he means business, look at Dirk Kuyt Ive loved the way he has worked his ass off and shown complete commitment to the cause from day 1.

In my opinion I thought his best game was when he came in as a sub during the Champions League Qualifier and scored the game winner. I had a good feeling about him. But he went to crap, had a injury too, which didn't help. I also thought he was a diver too, In general, he does not have what it takes to wear the LFC shirt.

I am quite shocked by this.

Thought Gonzo would of got another season for us but it wasn't to be...

Maybe he isn't happy here. But I always thought that he played better over in Spain.

Good luck Mark.

So the clear-out has begun, never thought that Gonzo sjpwed his true form for us, but good luck to him, maybe he couldn't adapt...

I think he'll be a good player in the long run but it's good news.  We need real quality in these sort of positions next season if we are going to see a push for the league.  If it is £5M, as reported, then i don't think you can argue with that.  I think he has struggled to settle and will be better for him to go back to Spain.

from what i have heard up 2 now zenden, Gonzarlez, Fowler and Bellamy and from a friend Hyypia to bemcome  a lpool trainer, so the clear out has begun now we need quality places to replace thouse positions.

I am sad that Mark is to go. I think he has had a tough time at Liverpool, he has been plagued by injuries and competion for his place in the team has been hard. I would liked to have seen him given another season with a string of games to find his feet. I wish him all the best for the future and hope that we haven't made a big mistake.

Bye.  I was under the impression he could take a man on and beat him, had a mean shot and was lightening fast.

I didn't see any of that.  I thought Rafa would give him another season though.

It is a bit surprising but RAFA probably had recognised that it could make some money there, kewell coming back (even if I think he should also move this summer but hey) on the lefy side, RAFA feels that Gonzales can move on. I'm less suprised by Zenden, he hasn't been good although he had so many chances to prove us wrong..much more then Gonzales..Good luck to them..

Not surprised i think that Rafa's ruthless side is good it sends a message out to other under preforming players that being second best ain't good enough and to players coming to us that we only want people with a winning mentality and who perform.

I'm not too sad to see Gonzalez go, I wish him luck wherever he goes. The thing about him was that to me, he reminded me of Cisse......push the ball in front of him and with his lightning speed could get around an opponent, then get back on to the ball. Premiership players catch on to that pretty quickly so that wasn't going to work...he'd get pushed off the ball too easily.

He'll do well in Spain, I hope, but he's not an LFC player.....we need a player whose quick but also has a good football brain and especially someone who can whip in a dangerous cross and take on the opposition.

he was woeful...another in the longline of poor wingers we have taken on....good ridance....now with so cash lets get some real quality....sneijder, quaresma, matias fernandez, jaquin.....robben!.....not some over hype money  and squad number stealing wannabe.....new dawn at LFC....players worthy of the shirt need only apply.

PS ok he is a nice guy but if you asked the opposition of any LFC team in the 70's, 80's, early to mid 90'd if the Liverpool team they faced were a team of 'nice guys' they'd be quivering too much to answer....ruthless and commited to the badge.

i dont think gonzalez should go. i think we should give him one more season to prove himself, if he doesn't then he can go. if he does leave this summer, i will be sad to see him leave. :'(

I like Rafas new mean streak there is no point on holding on to players that havent shown what we expected or that they are passed there best, knowing our luck they will come back to haunt us in the future

drogba didnt have a very good first season at chelsea, now look at him.(even though i hate to say it, he is good)
c.ronaldo didnt have a very good first season now look at him. (again i hate to say it, but he is good)

we should give him a chance to prove himself. im sure he'll get better in the future. you know it does take time to adjust to the premiership.

Always looked a bit of a light weight, knocked off the ball too many times and if he went into a tackle, never came out with the ball (most of the time finished up on the floor)
he had the kick and run tactic off to a tee, little else and top quality full backs don't fall for that.

Think he will do well at a lower level but couldn't cut it at the top .

DH

why do somepeople say feel sorry for him, god we went to heaven and earth to get him over here we even signed him when he was injured,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, wake up people he wasn't good enough and its as cut and dried as that,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, total wet fart as far as I'm concerned, the only half a good game he had when we beat Chelsea in the charity shield final..... but lets be honest he did get his fair share of time to show he had at least something,,,,,,,, he has nothing we want ,,, he didn't even get to the by line and cross over,, i cant remember him beating a player or skipping past defenders with that so called pace that he was supposed to have ..........


crap so good buy and get out.............

crap so good buy and get out.............

why is he a good buy in your opinion then
do you mean goodbye ?

Not too bothered about either going, but if Rafa knew Zenden was off, then why did he play in the CL Final . If he's good enough for the final then he should stay. But the thing that worries me is that we do not appear to have enough quality players, so we offload some "OK" players but what about next season, surely these players should be "squad" players. It's no good selling 5 players and bringing in 1 good player, a few OK players a some "up and coming players" and then complaining we do not have a squad like CFC or scum!
If we have the ca$h then does it make sense to keep these players? and expand the squad? If we get ALL these players we have been linked to then fair enough, but we have been linked with, Raul, Figo, etc, etc, before and they have not arrived!

If we get ALL these players we have been linked to then fair enough, but we have been linked with, Raul, Figo, etc, etc, before and they have not arrived!

thats probaly because we didnt have enough money to buy them, or we werent intersested(mind my spelling) in them anymore, or they are too old.

drogba didnt have a very good first season at chelsea, now look at him.(even though I hate to say it, he is good)
c.ronaldo didnt have a very good first season now look at him. (again I hate to say it, but he is good)

we should give him a chance to prove himself. im sure he'll get better in the future. you know it does take time to adjust to the premiership.

Admittedly both Drogba & Ronaldo didn't play as well in their first seasons as they play now, but they did show some level of talent during their debut seasons. Gonzales hasn't even shown in flashes what a winger should be able to do, plain & simple he isn't good enough.

I've mentioned this before, but I really do wonder if certain sections of our support have forgotten the mentality required to win the league. We've got to be ruthless, much as I hate to say it but just like Ferguson & Mourinho have been. Keep giving players one more season and we'll keep finishing third or fourth.

Not going to believe that Gonzalez has gone until he knocks at my house and tells me.

Such a shame.  It'll come back to haunt us that decision. Mark my words.

Marky Mark's gone http://www.anfield-online.co.uk/lfc-news/2007/07/19/gonzalez-leaves-liverpool-for-betis/

A bit of a sad end to such a promising signing to be honest.

But even more importantly, and relevant to us all, ..... will edu leave the forum too??   :'(

We did not give him enogh time. He was a player we were crying out 4

Gonzalez went too early................ get out he didn't go soon enough..

I'm with Eddie on this one he was terrible, plain and simple as that.

he never went past anyone, he never got many good crosses in and he never won the ball back and chased back... please all of you remember how much effort we went into to bring this little show pony to liverpool, hes a pr**k and he hardly deserved to be red at all and if he wants to go and thats easy for him then he didn't have much guts for a fight at least kewell is trying to stick it out.......... Gonzalez going is nothing to me and we will not come back to regret this player moving AT ALL..................... ..

Gonzalez went too early................ get out he didn't go soon enough..

I'm with Eddie on this one he was terrible, plain and simple as that.

he never went past anyone, he never got many good crosses in and he never won the ball back and chased back... please all of you remember how much effort we went into to bring this little show pony to liverpool, hes a pr**k and he hardly deserved to be red at all and if he wants to go and thats easy for him then he didn't have much guts for a fight at least kewell is trying to stick it out.......... Gonzalez going is nothing to me and we will not come back to regret this player moving AT ALL..................... ..

Very very very harsh statement, I did not enjoy reading that, I really didn't.

I agree the comments are harsh but they are both right....he had to go.

But you are right that Eddie C and Samcharles often contribute with both barrells to put it politely!


 :grrrrrr:

Dont agree with what SamCharles said. Gonzales I can remember put in a few good challenges on a couple of occasions beat his man. So saying never is wrong.

he scored one gol the last thursday versus AC milan

he scored one gol the last thursday versus AC milan

Well that's just bloody brilliant. Tell us some good news why don't you.

did'nt like  gonzalez from the start ! more interested in his gelled spikey hair than he was at putting balls in the box .

did'nt like  gonzalez from the start ! more interested in his gelled spikey hair than he was at putting balls in the box .

Come on mate - get off the fence.

fair point but he was'nt consistent . i know he had injuries but i think the spanish game is better for him

But you are right that Eddie C and Samcharles often contribute with both barrells to put it politely!

Please don't put me in the same bracket as samcharles.

I don't abuse our players, or indeed the rest of the forum, and my posts are well constructed rather than just a mindless rant.