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      Babel vs Walcott vs Nani
      Feb 08, 2010 01:57:42 am
      I have been thinking about this for weeks.

      they have a lot of similiarities.

      1) Still young and with potential.

      2) Can be brilliant in one game but be extremely frustrating in other matches.

      3) Not playing regularly for their clubs. (It seems Nani has start to feature more for the Mancs)'

      4) Brought in for a lot of money.

      5) Play in wide areas.
       
      My question is this.

      1) Which of this player has been good enough to justify his price tag?

      2) Who is the best now?

      3) Who do u think is going to be the better player in the future?
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      Re: Babel vs Walcott vs Nani
      Reply #1: Feb 08, 2010 02:13:22 am
      I don't think Walcott belongs in this thread, he's just 20, he still has time. Remember when Babel just came to Liverpool, that's the age Walcott is at now, but Walcott has alot more top flight experience already. And he's also had some injury issues. Babel and Nani however, time is running out for them, they're both 23, they'll have to start performing soon. Inconsistency is normal for younger players, but Babel and Nani are getting to an age where they should start performing at a more constant level. I think thus far Babel has been the most inconsistent, while physically he has more talent than both of them probably, he just doesn't seem to have the right mentality.
      « Last Edit: Feb 08, 2010 02:22:37 am by Dexter »
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      Re: Babel vs Walcott vs Nani
      Reply #2: Feb 08, 2010 03:35:39 am
      Out of the 3 players I think I would have to say Walcott has done the most to justify his price tag. Though Theo is the cheapest out of the 3 I still dont think he has justified his price tag, he just seems to have produced more and have done it more regularly. Babel and Nani also seem to lack the will power to graft for the team, they never really give much effort, if they lose the ball they don't go and try and win it back.
      Btw Tasonga, very interesting stats in your signature.
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      Reply #3: Feb 08, 2010 04:57:40 am
      Nani has started playing consistently for United lately,he's really starting to excel. Babel doesn't get enough games to prove what he is surely capable of. Therefore I think it's impossible to weigh these three up,as Walcott hasn't set the world alight consistently either.

      I think Babel is just as,if not more capable than Nani. Nani's out ahead of him at the moment though,'cause his gaffer is starting to show faith in him.
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      Re: Babel vs Walcott vs Nani
      Reply #4: Feb 08, 2010 05:36:50 am
      Walcott > Nani >>>>>>>>> Babel.

      Babel is terrible. I saw Walcott last night and he played like Babel usually does and thats after 4 or so injuries in a short period of time and no match practice.

      Nani has a bit about him but nothing special.

      I think Walcott will develop in to a good player.
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      Re: Babel vs Walcott vs Nani
      Reply #5: Feb 08, 2010 08:23:35 am
      I think they are all sh*te, tbh.
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      Re: Babel vs Walcott vs Nani
      Reply #6: Feb 08, 2010 08:24:10 am
      Out of the 3 players I think I would have to say Walcott has done the most to justify his price tag. Though Theo is the cheapest out of the 3 I still dont think he has justified his price tag, he just seems to have produced more and have done it more regularly. Babel and Nani also seem to lack the will power to graft for the team, they never really give much effort, if they lose the ball they don't go and try and win it back.
      Btw Tasonga, very interesting stats in your signature.

      thanks.
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      Re: Babel vs Walcott vs Nani
      Reply #7: Feb 08, 2010 08:36:36 am
      Walcott, I say would be the best among them three but Nani has seem to be pretty consistent the last few games.
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      Re: Babel vs Walcott vs Nani
      Reply #8: Feb 08, 2010 10:26:34 am
      Babel.

      he scores goals.
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      Re: Babel vs Walcott vs Nani
      Reply #9: Feb 08, 2010 10:54:31 am
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      Re: Babel vs Walcott vs Nani
      Reply #10: Feb 08, 2010 11:00:51 am
      Wallcot best for speed
      Babel best for skill
      Nani ... dont rate him.
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      Re: Babel vs Walcott vs Nani
      Reply #11: Feb 08, 2010 11:03:41 am
      Walcott has suffered with injuries so you comparison is unfair. His speed and attitude far outsrip the other pair
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      Re: Babel vs Walcott vs Nani
      Reply #12: Feb 08, 2010 11:08:20 am
      No contest -> Walcott.
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      Re: Babel vs Walcott vs Nani
      Reply #13: Feb 08, 2010 11:19:33 am


      I'd rather have Walcott if I could choose.
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      Re: Babel vs Walcott vs Nani
      Reply #14: Feb 08, 2010 12:11:05 pm
      All Arsenal fans hate Walcott, they say he's lazy and think Babel is 10x better.

      I really cant pick between them, I'd say Babel because he pulls off a wonder goal every 6 months. :P
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      Re: Babel vs Walcott vs Nani
      Reply #15: Feb 08, 2010 12:22:05 pm
      Walcott for me. His pace is explosive and theres no doubt for me that he's going to be one hell of a player. Hes a striker though so id love to see him play at the top instead of on the right. He also has the right attitude. Never see him in the paper for bad reasons and he isn't one to moan or sulk either. Hes just overall a good lad IMO, id love him at LFC.

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      Re: Babel vs Walcott vs Nani
      Reply #16: Feb 08, 2010 12:47:37 pm
      All Arsenal fans hate Walcott, they say he's lazy and think Babel is 10x better.

      I really cant pick between them, I'd say Babel because he pulls off a wonder goal every 6 months. :P

      Walcott loves Liverpool. Babel loves Arsenal. Both the same players so let's swap! :D
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      Re: Babel vs Walcott vs Nani
      Reply #17: Feb 08, 2010 01:08:53 pm
      I just watched the last 20 minutes of the everton game, I think Babel controlled the ball once, the rest of the time he messed it up.

      At least Walcott has a first touch.
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      Re: Babel vs Walcott vs Nani
      Reply #18: Feb 08, 2010 01:47:35 pm
      Nani has always been the more prodigious talent and it's just been a case of him maturing. With Ferguson's record of nurturing top players it's no suprise. Walcott is also a better player but might lack the smarts. Babel is not in the same league and never has been.
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      Reply #19: Feb 08, 2010 02:06:44 pm
      its a very good thread cos they really are very similar. but IMO there is only one answer. Walcott is head and shoulders above the other pair(not literally). if he didnt have so many injuries in the last 2 years he would be a regular in the england X1. i wouldnt have nani or babel anywhere near the premier league. im sure if they went somewhere like germany or holland, they would excel but they are not cut out for the physical end of things
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      Reply #20: Feb 08, 2010 03:44:44 pm
      All three are sh*te.
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      Re: Babel vs Walcott vs Nani
      Reply #21: Feb 08, 2010 05:02:42 pm
      Don't rate any of them to be honest but if I was pushed to choose I'd say Walcott.

      Can score a few and has a more time to improve than the others.
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      Re: Babel vs Walcott vs Nani
      Reply #22: Feb 08, 2010 05:16:42 pm
      I'd have Wallcott, suposed to be a Liverpool supporter. English. Could do with a change of team. Do not think he has had a propper run the the Arsenal team. Nani can stay with the scum...
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      Re: Babel vs Walcott vs Nani
      Reply #23: Feb 08, 2010 05:44:13 pm
      All three of them are so inconsistent. If i had to chose i would say Walcott but dont think any of them have justified there price tags yet.
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      Re: Babel vs Walcott vs Nani
      Reply #24: Feb 08, 2010 06:30:59 pm
      All three of them are so inconsistent. If I had to chose I would say Walcott but dont think any of them have justified there price tags yet.
      Walcott was over priced. Wenger jumped in and spent.

      Walcott transferred to Arsenal on 20 January 2006, for a fee of £5 million, rising to £12 million depending on appearances for club and country. May Wenger has little money, so it's a cunning way not to pay £12m, buy not playing him.
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      Re: Babel vs Walcott vs Nani
      Reply #25: Feb 08, 2010 06:35:18 pm
      Walcott if i had to pick one but all three very inconsistent players.
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      Re: Babel vs Walcott vs Nani
      Reply #26: Feb 08, 2010 07:32:28 pm
      Dont rate any of them to be honest, Walcott has time on his side more than the other two but none of them have a decent final ball.....certaintly not for 3 full internationals
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      Re: Babel vs Walcott vs Nani
      Reply #27: Feb 08, 2010 08:12:07 pm

      1) Which of this player has been good enough to justify his price tag?

      2) Who is the best now?

      3) Who do u think is going to be the better player in the future?

      None

      Walcott

      Walcott
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      Reply #28: Feb 08, 2010 09:31:01 pm
      All three are whack.

      Babel is a lazy sh*te, Walcott is a massive liability and even the snail fans don't like him anymore, and Nani is a bug eyed pr**k who can only pull off a trick every 10 or so matches.
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      Re: Babel vs Walcott vs Nani
      Reply #29: Feb 08, 2010 10:26:49 pm
      I just watched the last 20 minutes of the everton game, I think Babel controlled the ball once, the rest of the time he messed it up.

      At least Walcott has a first touch.

      i was thinking about Babel and Kuyt's apparent inability to control a football but...don't you think part of the problem is the way the ball is often hammered up to them? I mean, Stevie's passing in particular is hardly full of finesse and the long balls from defence skidding off these modern, firm-on-top-and-watered pitches can't make it easy. Not saying it is totally the excuse but I do believe Arsenal's passing is more "continental" in that the ball is stroked more, plus their passes are usually 10 yards, ours more like 40 yards, right?

      just a thought.

      oh, as for Walcott v Babel v Nani....for all his faults I still think Babel has the bigger future but I suspect Rafa is not going to get it out of him...he will move elsewhere and look good I suspect.
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      Reply #30: Feb 08, 2010 10:31:09 pm
      I will always support our players regardless of how sh*t they have been, but if someone said you could take any one of these 3 players last on the list would be Babel for me. Walcott is younger than the other 2 and probably produced the goods more often. Still Babel is our player and he will get my support on matchdays regardless of how poo he is/has been.
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      Reply #31: Feb 08, 2010 10:34:08 pm
      Walcott, Ill never forget that run he made agaisnt us in the champions leauge.
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      Re: Babel vs Walcott vs Nani
      Reply #32: Feb 09, 2010 01:30:19 pm
      I don't really give a damn about the other two except Babel, selfish you may say, not gonna waste my time talking about them. But watching Babel play at times is truely frustrating, for instance against the blueshite, he keeps knocking the ball back to the defenders and put more pressure on us, why can't he just use his damn bloody intelligence a bit more and bring the ball as far up the field as possible and ease the pressure on our defenders. He has the speed but he chose to overdribble most of the time and knows not where his team mates are. What Rafa needs to tell Babel is to do the simplest thing, that is when he gets the ball just charge down the wing and win us a corner, that'll do for the moment.
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      Reply #33: Feb 09, 2010 02:00:32 pm
      I'd take the Ryan Babel of his first season over both of them but due to the current Ryan Babel, I'd have to say Walcott. :)
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      Reply #34: Feb 09, 2010 02:23:03 pm
      Arsenal try to dribble the ball into the net which failed miserably against Chels and Manure.  We have to make sure we do the same thing - shrug them off the ball (which Chel did brilliantly - annoyingly) they don't perform well in a physical game so lets give them just that!
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      Reply #35: Feb 09, 2010 02:39:18 pm
      Arsenal try to dribble the ball into the net which failed miserably against Chels and Manure.  We have to make sure we do the same thing - shrug them off the ball (which Chel did brilliantly - annoyingly) they don't perform well in a physical game so lets give them just that!
      This quote should be in Arse v LFC pre match!
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      Re: Babel vs Walcott vs Nani
      Reply #36: Feb 09, 2010 02:46:06 pm
      Difficult to choose, as all 3 have natural ability and technical skill, but seem to lack the vital awareness when on the pitch. There are lots of players who can run down the wing into a blind alley, and babel has been doing this for to long.  He should have realised this by now and also realised he can't take on an entire teams defence ever time he gets the ball.

      Nani has improved a little lately, but it's to early to tell if it will last, but he has been sh*te for a long time before that.

      Walcott has the ability and speed, but needs to step up and stay injury free.  he is still 20, but now is the time for him to mature and add to his game.

      My concern is that our player is now 23 and hasn't improved or learned much in the last few years.  if you only get 20-25 mins on the pitch, then he should show Rafa that he is part of the team and can play for the team.  use his brain and help his team mates and not just himself!
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      Re: Babel vs Walcott vs Nani
      Reply #37: Feb 09, 2010 04:22:59 pm
      All three are sh*te. Too inconsistent, all of them.
      But if I was to stick my neck out, I'll go for Walcott.
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      Re: Babel vs Walcott vs Nani
      Reply #38: Feb 09, 2010 04:57:56 pm
      I've a number of mates Arsenal fans and they think Walcott is sh*te some of them would happily swop Babel for him.
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      Reply #39: Feb 09, 2010 05:26:14 pm
      I think they are all sh*te, tbh.

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      Re: Babel vs Walcott vs Nani
      Reply #40: Feb 09, 2010 06:47:52 pm
      I've a number of mates Arsenal fans and they think Walcott is sh*te some of them would happily swop Babel for him.

      I'd happily see this happen to be honest because Walcott is willing to learn and fight for his place, Babel thinks it should just be handed to him on a plate.
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      Reply #41: Feb 10, 2010 02:11:11 am
      I've a number of mates Arsenal fans and they think Walcott is sh*te some of them would happily swop Babel for him.
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       Really hope that wenger is a fool like the arse fans and rates babel highly. To top it up Babel will score a wonder goal tonight.
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      Re: Babel vs Walcott vs Nani
      Reply #42: Feb 10, 2010 07:55:36 am
      They're all pretty useless in my opinion.

      I would rate Babel and Walcott pretty evenly in terms of skill. We saw glimpses of what they could do in the 2007-08 season, especially in the semi final at Anfield.

      Nani for me is completely over rated. They put too much hope into him, and he isn't as good as either of the other two in my opinion.

      Problem is, none of the 3 have performed. I would like it if Walcott and Babel could be straight swapped, not so because I rate Walcott above Babel, but I think the move can help to kick-start both the players careers. Perhaps the fresh start will be better for both of them, and as crouchinho said, both prefer the opposite club.
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      Re: Babel vs Walcott vs Nani
      Reply #43: Feb 10, 2010 05:31:19 pm
      I'd happily see this happen to be honest because Walcott is willing to learn and fight for his place, Babel thinks it should just be handed to him on a plate.
      Walcott at least fills a home-grown spot...
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      Re: Babel vs Walcott vs Nani
      Reply #44: Feb 11, 2010 06:50:06 pm
      Walcott, Ill never forget that run he made agaisnt us in the champions leauge.

      Il never forget the goal and penalty won from Babel right after this when we looked dead and buried..

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      Reply #45: Feb 11, 2010 07:04:23 pm
      babel for me, hes the strongest and most powerful and he can play in a number of positions.
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      Re: Babel vs Walcott vs Nani
      Reply #46: Feb 11, 2010 08:26:13 pm
      Babel will never reach the level expected, Nani is sh*te. Walcott has potential, but since he plays for the aresholes i hope he fails.
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      Re: Babel vs Walcott vs Nani
      Reply #47: Feb 13, 2010 08:31:39 am
      Walcott loves Liverpool. Babel loves Arsenal. Both the same players so let's swap! :D
      ;D



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      Reply #48: Feb 13, 2010 09:41:09 am
      Walcott loves Liverpool. Babel loves Arsenal. Both the same players so let's swap! :D

      I can just see that conversation:



      "Rafa, man.....i love you man"   ... "Yeah Arsène man ..... i love you too man" ...."Good sh*t this, man, nice and speedy man" ...."Great sh*t man..... tell you what, man, I got me some Dutch sh*t at home man..... I'll swap you man" ...."You would...like swap sh*t man?" ..... "Yeah man, like i told you.... i love you, man".
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      Reply #49: Feb 14, 2010 07:39:51 am
      Works for me, BBB! :D
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      Reply #50: Feb 14, 2010 11:42:13 am
      the best imho is walcott, he's younger and faster.....
      babel is great, but he alternate perfect match and horrible match
      nani is too much fickle
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      Re: Babel vs Walcott vs Nani
      Reply #51: Feb 16, 2010 12:37:22 pm
      Babel if rafa plays him more, walcott will phase out, nani if good but not better

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