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      Shakesy
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      Extra time away goals
      Apr 30, 2010 01:10:41 am
      Reflecting on our exit from the Europa League, what are your opinions on this rule?

      Personally it is unfair on whoever has to play at home in the second leg. Take tonight as an example, we were beaten 1-0 when Atl were at home, so they come to anfield and are themselves beaten 1-0, all's fair and even. If we draw in extra time it should be a draw, we were not given an extra 30 minutes at Vicente Calderon Stadium to score an away goal. So basically, to win, we had to lead by 1 goal and they only had to draw.

      How's that fair?

      Also bear in mind that for every game except Unirea we played at home on the second leg, so we've always been disadvantaged if the game was to go into extra time.
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      Reply #1: Apr 30, 2010 01:12:34 am
      Works both ways unfortunately, and unluckily we enever went through but thats football.
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      Reply #2: Apr 30, 2010 01:12:47 am
      It's a good point that.
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      Reply #3: Apr 30, 2010 01:13:56 am
      I was going to start a similar topic mate!

      As it got towards the end of 90 minutes tonight I was convinced the away goals didn't count in extra time. It was only during extra time that it dawned on me I was wrong and a goal for them would still be enough.

      I can't see how it's fair that one team can have an extra 30 minutes to get their away goal and this rule needs looking at in my opinion but I know when I mention this in work tomorrow I'll be called a bad loser even though most will secretly agree with me!
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      Reply #4: Apr 30, 2010 01:14:20 am
      Works both ways unfortunately, and unluckily we enever went through but thats football.
      Aye I understand that mate, but it hasn't worked our way since our first europa game if you know what i mean?
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      Reply #5: Apr 30, 2010 01:15:26 am
      Decent point there actually. Never thought about it like that before.

      Guess it evens things up though in a way - the general thought is that playing at home second is better. Therefore having extra-time at home sort of evens it out?
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      Reply #6: Apr 30, 2010 01:19:47 am
      Aye I understand that mate, but it hasn't worked our way since our first europa game if you know what i mean?

      On the flip side of the debate mate, if it had we wouldn't be having this debate, however  we done enoughto go through this evening, just a shame we didn't over two legs, but as Liverpool fans we get over it and look to the next game.
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      Reply #7: Apr 30, 2010 01:21:19 am
      Ive always hated the away goals rule. If there are two legs, one home and away, then theres no need for a random rule to give whoever is drawn at home first an advantage.

      A team should win a match on goals they've put in the back of the net, not goals given to them by a few lines in the rulebook.
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      Reply #8: Apr 30, 2010 01:25:37 am
      It's a good point - but I suppose it evens out the advantage of playing at home second leg?

      I think the away goals rule is a good one in that it adds all sorts of tactical dimensions to games - but after 90 minutes then surely it isn't the 'game' going in to extra time but the 'tie'?

      Anyway, I'm sure we will take advantage of the rule one day (if we haven't already done so).
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      Reply #9: Apr 30, 2010 01:36:09 am
      Definitely a good shout. It simply should go back to square one if the tie goes into extra time.
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      Reply #10: Apr 30, 2010 01:44:23 am
      Very good point but at the end of the day we wouldn't have minded if it was the other way round.

      Think it does need reviewing though because after when it goes to extra time it is sort of another game because we would have had our 90 minutes to get an away goal and they would have had theirs. But then again like JD said, does it make up for having the 2nd leg in front of our own fans?
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      Reply #11: Apr 30, 2010 01:53:39 am
      Not worried about this really as it has often worked for us. Great semi final. Pity were not in the final but enjoyed tonights game. Personally I would always be in favour of a rule that makes penalties less likely.
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      Reply #12: Apr 30, 2010 02:32:03 am
      We get 90 mins to score away goal. Atletico get 120 minutes.

      Isn't that the way it should be looked at?

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      Reply #13: Apr 30, 2010 02:40:05 am
      It was funny tonight. With all the stupid things UEFA have introduced in recent years I wasn't even sure if when we scored our second goal we had scored the 'golden goal'.

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      Reply #14: Apr 30, 2010 02:41:05 am
      It has 2 sides to it mate! If your away first leg then you have the away goal in your favour! And when your away 2nd leg you have the extra time away goals in your favour (not saying i agree with it, as extra time is a rarity) If we had of won in the fashion that athletico did, then there would have been a topic about this, i just feel that we thought it was game over (as so did i when yossi scored)
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      Reply #15: Apr 30, 2010 02:41:46 am
      We get 90 mins to score away goal. Atletico get 120 minutes.

      Isn't that the way it should be looked at?


      It's how I'm looking at it. Honestly I love the away goals rule, think it adds some excitement as well as something for the away team to go after. However, one team getting an extra 30 minutes to take advantage of that rule? No thanks.

      If it happened to us I would be happy, but if someone brought this up to me then I'd say 'yeah, that is a bit unfair'

      That extra 30 minutes was to decide the entire tie. So IMO, no away goals. It's square one at that point.
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      Reply #16: Apr 30, 2010 02:42:21 am
      JD, if only the golden goal rule still applied!


      I wouldnt be at home now, crying into a pint!  :'(
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      Re: Extra time away goals
      Reply #17: Apr 30, 2010 02:42:49 am
      Isn't it great when it works in your favour , but it's a massive kick in guts when it works against your team .
      We were all laughin when this rule knocked out the dirty Mancs weren't we ,
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      Reply #18: Apr 30, 2010 02:44:44 am
      It has 2 sides to it mate! If your away first leg then you have the away goal in your favour! And when your away 2nd leg you have the extra time away goals in your favour (not saying I agree with it, as extra time is a rarity) If we had of won in the fashion that athletico did, then there would have been a topic about this, I just feel that we thought it was game over (as so did I when yossi scored)

      Pure pie eyed here boys so bear with me, what i meant to say was that if your away second leg you have the home advantage which as we all know is a major advantage! (think i should just go to sleep)
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      Re: Extra time away goals
      Reply #19: Apr 30, 2010 02:44:51 am
      We get 90 mins to score away goal. Atletico get 120 minutes.

      Isn't that the way it should be looked at?



      Put simply, Yes. Unfortunately, purely the luck of the draw, no? We didn't produce the readies in Madrid, we paid the price tonight, I don't like this season very much...

      Roll on summertime...
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      Re: Extra time away goals
      Reply #20: Apr 30, 2010 02:48:42 am
      Pure pie eyed here boys so bear with me, what I meant to say was that if your away second leg you have the home advantage which as we all know is a major advantage! (think I should just go to sleep)


      Home advantage yeah, but at the same time it's a disadvantage if in a close game just one goal can change it all, and they have an extra 30 minutes to get that one goal.

      Not to mention we had our away goal chalked off for no reason last week, so it's an even bigger insult. Fact is, both teams get a game at home each. 90 minutes at your home ground each to pump in as many goals as you want, and same for the other team. If there's gonna be any extra time, away goals should be void.
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      Reply #21: Apr 30, 2010 03:16:17 am
      Well bigv our goal last week was a poor decision, no doubt about that! Your talking about its a disadvantage if its a close game? Sure its a disadvantage to play at home first (apparently) in my opinion the away goal rule in extra time brings it back to square one? Just means that playing away in the 2nd leg isnt such a disadvantage at all! I can barely see the keyboard here, so il reply to ye in the morning? most likely afternoon as im knackered!  xxxxx:action-smiley-065:
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      Reply #22: Apr 30, 2010 03:21:56 am
      Isn't it great when it works in your favour , but it's a massive kick in guts when it works against your team .
      We were all laughin when this rule knocked out the dirty Mancs weren't we ,
      Do you mean last week when they got knocked out due to away goals in normal time?

      Different kettle of fish that mate.

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