Which Players Will STAY In The Summer?

Reina will as just signed a new deal

and Skrtel has said he wants to stay and impress the new coach whoever that may be

who else do you see coming out and commiting their future/saying they will stay

i think Stevie and Nando will stay for one more season.

At the moment I honestly don't see anyone going. All this bollocks about a mass exodus to join Rafa at Inter is a joke. Didn't they say the same when Mourinho left Chelsea.

Kuyt, Lucas, Degen, El Zhar, Babel.

Nothing to worry about then.

yes, but at the same time, people like riera, babel etc have got to be worrying the new manager will just say thanks but no thanks

Reina will stay.

And he should be our captain as well.  He's the most dedicated to the cause out of all of them.

Think most will stay apart from Javier who will follow Rafa

Wait and see what manager comes in, he may have his own ideas that will see a few shipped out and a few come in, it's hard to nail down any one at the moment.

Would agree with JD that Reina will stay and should be our captain.
Can see Mascherano and maybe some of our young foreign players joining Rafa/Inter. ( Ayala, Pacheco )
Also reckon Stevie will be very interested in rejoining his ex in Real.

EDIT:

Would like to see Riera, Babel and El Zhar shown the door.

Guess that answers the who will leave question rather than who will stay but by deduction I hope the rest will stay

Think Masch could go but think the majority of the quality will stay.

Well they fuckn better after I just saw the price of my season ticket for next year. Fuckn rip off!

I think the certs are Reina, Maxi, Agger and Skrtel. I can see all of them staying definitely.

The only ones i'd like to see go TBH are, Reira, El Zhar, Degen, I think Masch is certain to follow Rafa with possibly Kuyt, I reckon we could raise about 50m for that little lot, And if we chuck in Babel too that could extend it to 60m, The Kunts tho will want at least 75% of any funds raised, The likes of Gerrard, Torres et al will remain and work with the new gaffer, I believe this will be Carra's last season with us, The rest will hopefully honour their contracts unless told otherwise, As for new faces well thats pie in the sky and will all depend on who comes in and where from.

Id be fairly confident in Pepe staying

Stevie, Masch Nando and Yossi not so confident

Think Masch could go but think the majority of the quality will stay.

Well they fuckn better after I just saw the price of my season ticket for next year. Fuckn rip off!

It's not good news but I can tell you that SG will be leaving and decided to go last summer because of a lack of investment in the squad. A former player told me that and was absolutely certain it will happen.

Torres has already said that unless there is investment in the squad he will leave... he will.

Mascherano has virtually said over the last few days that he wants to follow Rafa to Inter... or he could go to Barca where they have already said they want him. He's already said he will leave and his family don't like it here. Take it as read he only stayed because of Rafa.

Benny is going to Chelsea and has spoken about it in the press.

Birmingham are interested in Babel.

That leaves a core of good players consisting of Reina, Agger, Skirtel, Aquilani (who I think will be great), Kuyt, Lucas (better than he gets credit for), Johnson, Maxi etc.

Not bad but not top four and no genuine goalscorers.

Forget the Champions League we'll be fighting to get a Europa League place.

We need to get the yanks out and a boycott moving.

Good to see Skrtel come out and show his determination to cement a regular place in the first-team for the next season.We need more voices like these from inside the dressing room.Come on you superstars of Liverpool,follow suit.

We have a decent core of players who will still be there next season. Riena, Skrtle, Agger, Johnson, Gerrard, Torres, Kuyt, Maxi, Aquilani.
I would love Yossi still to be there as well.

I wouldn't lose sleep if any of the rest went as long as we replaced them.

And well done to Skrtel for coming out and publicly stating he will fight for us next season. Pity our 2 best players haven't uttered a word.

Reina
Johnson
Carragher
Agger
Skrtel
krygiakos
Insua
Maxi
Kuyt
Gerrard
Aqualani
Torres
Lucas
etc

MIGHT LEAVE ARE :
Degen
Aurelio- gone
Benayoun
Babel
Mascherano
Riera
El Zhar
Cavalieri

The situation has chnaged completely now with a new manager coming in.Those who were sure goners earlier like Yossi and Riera might stay on now if the new manager finds for them  a place in his plans so nothing can be said now.

PEPE!!!!



Don't know who else, but out of all players I believe this man is one of the most important. His attitude on and off the pitch is quality.

Depends on who the new manager will be. List all the players in the squad who would be sought by Utd, Chelsea, The Arse, Man shitty, Real Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern, A.C. Juve, Inter,.......That's Stevie, Nando, Carra, Pepe, Masch, Johnson, Agger, Benni, and possibly Skrtle, Kiri, and Maxi.  The rest will stay because they wouldn't get a game above Div 1.

Depends largely on who the new manager is. I don't think anyone will leave:

a)To Pay off debt - i.e. Nando or Gerrard
b) Because last season was so poor

The current squad should still be able to push for 4th place next season and I think the majority of our "Stars" will at least give us another season to see what happens.

The only important player I can see potentially leaving is Masch, he's never defended or praised Rafa until the news of Rafa taking the Inter job cropped up. All of a sudden he can't speak highly enough of him, and we all know how Masch's family can't settle here - me thinks hes after a move to Milan.

Then there'll be the likes of Riera, Degen, El Zhar and other fringe players that will potentially move on.

Riera according to the c**t, himself. 

Riera according to the C**t, himself. 

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo... etc

I honestly think that stevie and nando will stay, i think stevie actually wanted Rafa out, he didnt have the drive to motivate the team and his subs decisions spoilt the end of season run in.

Gerrad and Torres to stay, Riera, Babel (maybe) Kuyt and Javier to follow benitez which i wont cry about

i think stevie actually wanted Rafa out, he didnt have the drive to motivate the team and his subs decisions spoilt the end of season run in.

If true, it makes Steven no better than Lampard or Terry and is another reason why I'd strip Steven of the captaincy, and give it to Reina.

But put yourself in his boots...you've carried the team you love through thick and thin for years and helped bring the team together, you then see players who are sh!te in the team and Rafa wont talk or motivate anyone.

It may all be wishfull thinking from me that a new manager will spark so life into the team and tell the wasters and underachieveers to go and f*ck off to the second division if they dont have the passion to wear our shirt.

We wont and may not ever know if there was any unrest but lets forget it all and pray for togetherness from the team with a new manager and a new start

you then see players who are sh!te in the team and Rafa wont talk or motivate anyone.

A bit like the captain, who doesn't really talk or motivate anyone on the pitch.

Oh wait, that's Gerrard isn't it.

Heard plenty of rumours he's off to Madrid anyway!

Im sorry but i wont punish Gerrard who has virtually won us every trophy we have claimed in the past 6 years.

He had a relatively poor season by his standards (but was still better than Lucas) so what!

He's our captian and he loves the club, im trying to emphasize that we need a fresh breath of air, not whinging about recent events

But put yourself in his boots...you've carried the team you love through thick and thin for years and helped bring the team together, you then see players who are sh!te in the team and Rafa wont talk or motivate anyone.

It may all be wishfull thinking from me that a new manager will spark so life into the team and tell the wasters and underachieveers to go and f*ck off to the second division if they dont have the passion to wear our shirt.

We wont and may not ever know if there was any unrest but lets forget it all and pray for togetherness from the team with a new manager and a new start

Rafa wont talk or motivate anyone...
Where do you get that statement from.
Rafa was well able to motivate them up until our club started to come apart at the seams this season.
Im actually glad for Rafa that he got away from us right now because no doubt he would have ended up in hospital after fighting alone against the owners for so long as he attempted to do right by the club as all around him looked to make decisions based on greed and self interest.
The man should be applauded for staying so long and not have the snidey little comments coming out from fans like yourself who fail to see that unless we are sold soon to someone who actually has funds to invest in this club we are going to lose half our first team very soon.

Im sorry but i wont punish Gerrard who has virtually won us every trophy we have claimed in the past 6 years.

He had a relatively poor season by his standards (but was still better than Lucas) so what! - No he wasn't

He's our captian and he loves the club, im trying to emphasize that we need a fresh breath of air, not whinging about recent events

You are Martin Broughton and I'm claiming my free air miles!!

What fresh approach, we haven't got any money to attract the best managers or players to Anfield, how the F**k is that a fresh breath of air.

Lucas,Kuyt and Masch to follow Rafa... maybe! if we can get £10 million for Kuyt, £5 mill for Lucas and £30 million for Masch, i wouldnt have any major complaints as long as the money was used for signing new players. i dont want anyone here who doesnt wanna be here.. simple!

i think Nando and Stevie will stay if we get new owners and a new manager..

You are Martin Broughton and I'm claiming my free air miles!!

What fresh approach, we haven't got any money to attract the best managers or players to Anfield, how the f**k is that a fresh breath of air.

We dont need f*cking money!!!

Just players with big balls and the heart to go out and play on the pitch

Im trying to be confident, no harm in that

We dont need f*cking money!!!

Just players with big balls and the heart to go out and play on the pitch

Im trying to be confident, no harm in that

Ill repeat my previous statement.
unless we are sold soon to someone who actually has funds to invest in this club we are going to lose half our first team very soon.

well lets just shut down this site and give up then

well lets just shut down this site and give up then

Your statements suggest that now Rafa is gone we should expect things to pick up.
I'm merely pointing out that its not quite that simple

Ill repeat my previous statement.
unless we are sold soon to someone who actually has funds to invest in this club we are going to lose half our first team very soon.

unfortunately i agree with you, definitely see half the guys going

well i look at it this way, we won the CL with smicer, Biscan, Traore, Baros and kewell.

We now have a better squad than when we won it, so im suggesting that a new manager might motivate the players and turn our fortunes around.

Not a definate, but its at least the way im trying to think

well I look at it this way, we won the CL with smicer, Biscan, Traore, Baros and kewell.

We now have a better squad than when we won it, so im suggesting that a new manager might motivate the players and turn our fortunes around.

Not a definate, but its at least the way im trying to think

Well I can't fault your optimism.
As for myself. I won't be optimistic until the owners have been paid off.
Then my friend I'll be down the shops to buy some new merchandise and looking forward to the club rebuilding

It can be done im sure of it!! 

Even with gerrard and torres off the teamsheet, we could still field a potentially better side than what wont it in 2005

So im praying that we put aside the financial sh!te and the players start showing investors what they are missing

Reina, Carra, Agger, Skrtel, Sotis, Insua, Lucas, Aquilani and Maxi. And most of the youngsters.

Rest of them could go.

Someone has mentioned earlier that Stevie may stay now that Rafa has gone and I believe the chances of Stevie staying is high, inspite of all the rumours as we saw in the last few games, he was not the Stevie that we come to know off and he could be frustrated with the tactics and not too bothered to perform as he knew too well that the tactics were not right while Torres had become more quarrelsome than usual on the field. What do we expect of him when he was left all alone upfield and expected to perform miracles every week but kicked all over the field instead. I strongly believe that Stevie and Torres will stay if one of them stays. I choose to remain positive inspite of the turbulent times and I also strongly believe that not many players will move on inspite of what we read on papers. I don't mind a few of those average players moving on as they are the weak links while we can start picking up some quality players when the new manager is appointed.

As for Masch, I'm very dissapointed with him as he has been pretty outspoken of late and he's almost sure that he's heading to Inter. This is a classical case of a player wearing the red Liverpool Football Club jersey without pride. That being the case he can go, the sooner the better so that we can find a more effective replacement, no player is indispensable. Lastly, I hope that those players that do not take pride in wearing the LFC shirt please stand up now and head towards the door without delay, no need to wait any further. This will be testing times to see who are really patriotic to the club.

As for the coaching staff the lot can go, I want us to go back to the Liverpool way of doing things with the back room boys. We have too many of these foreign coaches/trainers/physio etc and they're very much alien to the club.

Not many of our big players to be honest especially of some average manager like Hodgson comes in, I think Masch is defo gone, would be suprised to see Stevie and Torres staying.

 Seems to be links away from the club to Kuyt, Babel and Johnson as well. But think of it on the bright side with all the money we are getting in the owners will be able to stay around for another while because they will have money for the interest repayments. I think it is called asset stripping. Oh ya and we will get to see Riera more.

When we look at our teamsheet :-

Reina
Agger
Skrtel
Carra
Johnson
Masch
Yossi
Stevie
Max
Torres

Surely its enough quality in there, why we finished 7th were down to a combination of reasons that it's best not to dwell on further, we need to move forward and put the past behind. Most managers in the league will be silently telling themselves, thank god with these players in my possession I've already got more than the back bone of the team and I just need to buy a few more players to strenghten the team and also to ensure that we have top quality on the bench. The new manager appointed will have to take the earliest flight to South Africa to convince these players to stay. Get feedback from these players whom they think they wanna see playing along side them next season and start hunting these players down. The manager should also asked these players what tactics they hope to see next season. This may seem trivial but these world class players needs to believe and have faith in the tactics that they'll be involved in next season to stay on and no better time for the new manager to tell these players that I hear you loud and clear and you will be given the freedom to make known your ideas and allow to express yourselves on the field for a change, like those all conquering years. Of course, on the financial side of things not everything is rosy, we can raise some money with the sales of the average players and plough back to get some quality players in. Comb South America for players, forget about the continent, players are overpriced many times over. Work overtime to get some potential 2nd stringers to step up. Glen Kelly is one of them playing almost like a season campaigner already, we can't be over protective of the second stringers.

I hate to read so many negative news about the club but in reality I strongly believe, I want to believe and I'm believing that things are much much better than what the press portrayed the club to be. Let's stay positive and I'm confident that things will turn for the better. Funnily enough, I'm feeling much calmer this one week or so and pretty confident that things will improve over the next few weeks. Don't ask me why and how, just my guts feelings.

Im sorry but I wont punish Gerrard who has virtually won us every trophy we have claimed in the past 6 years.

He had a relatively poor season by his standards (but was still better than Lucas) so what!

He's our captian and he loves the club, im trying to emphasize that we need a fresh breath of air, not whinging about recent events

I agreed with you Plantman regarding Gerrard.
I hopefully he to stay, as he said he love to wear only LFC shirt in his career.
I really upset for many fans here why your memory seem so short!. Stevie gave us and a club as much as one footballer can by his best, and for long long time. In total his career it's just last season can say it's not good enough (of course we don't know about future). But for me it's tremendous for what he made us happy many season before (please don't say something like "his wage is very high so he must do better everyday", he's only a man, I mean he's human, not a god). Please look back for season 09/10, Gerrard having trouble before season start (of course we can say too it's he himself who made that thing) and this at least affected his confident and his form (some fans also requested to strip his armband for this situation, sorry I can't remember where I saw this). Then during the season he suffered many injuries, and he almost never play alongside best teammates last season as Fernando also injured almost all season. Many fans here also admitted it's Rafa tactic and decision that play big role for our match result, is it right ?. So, I think it's so difficult season for him and a team. Then here we now want to strip an armband away from him, someone seems never consider to give him a chance to work and improve under new manager, that's so call a loyal supporter ?. Is it fair enough for our loyal player ?.

For the topic of who to stay, I would like to see at least SG and Fernando to stay, please.
Then, for Reina, Aquilani, Johnson I think they would stay for almost 100 per cent.
I don't want Agger, Benny, Pacheco to leave.
For someone like Riera, Babel, El-Zhar (for El-Zhar he shouldn't play in first team because his abilities not enough for that, so he failed and fans blamed him, a pity boy) it's better to leave.

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Just my opinion, please tell me if there is any big mistake.
  
 

Exactly

Out CL winning team

Dudek,
Finnan (Hamann 46),
Traore,
Hyypia,
Carragher,
Riise,
Gerrard,
Luis Garcia,
Alonso,
Kewell (Smicer 23),
Baros (Cisse 85).
Subs Not Used: Carson, Josemi, Nunez, Biscan.

And your list:

Reina
Agger
Skrtel
Carra
Johnson
Masch
Yossi
Stevie (Lucas if he goes)
Max
Torres (Babel or Pacheco if he goes)


That team is far better

Let gee ourselves up and get the investors drooling....we CAN do it

It's not good news but I can tell you that SG will be leaving and decided to go last summer because of a lack of investment in the squad. A former player told me that and was absolutely certain it will happen.

Torres has already said that unless there is investment in the squad he will leave... he will.

Mascherano has virtually said over the last few days that he wants to follow Rafa to Inter... or he could go to Barca where they have already said they want him. He's already said he will leave and his family don't like it here. Take it as read he only stayed because of Rafa.

Benny is going to Chelsea and has spoken about it in the press.

Birmingham are interested in Babel.

That leaves a core of good players consisting of Reina, Agger, Skirtel, Aquilani (who I think will be great), Kuyt, Lucas (better than he gets credit for), Johnson, Maxi etc.

Not bad but not top four and no genuine goalscorers.

Forget the Champions League we'll be fighting to get a Europa League place.

I met a work colleague yesterday who is a Director at a former European Cup winning team in the Championship.  Even he was telling me that LFC finances are so bad that the club had to try and prove some element of financial stability before the team would be allowed into the Europa League next year.  Apparently our financial director (who is not very convincing (surprise - surprise) ) was grilled for about 5 hours over this.......

would like to keep    reina-johnson-agger-skrtel-mascherano-gerrard-aquilani-torres

money raised from  benayoun-lucas-kuyt-babel-insua   be used to buy new players to re energise the team

now with Roy in, what are your feelings?

if anyone once to leave let them we lost bigger players in past like rushy keegan only keep players who love the club like us

I think the only players that will leave with be Mash and Yossi to be fair

Gerrard, Carra, and Torres will stay now.....Gerrard said himself Roy was a great appointment.....I hope.

I think the only players that will leave with be Mash and Yossi to be fair

lets bloody hope ur right!

Gerrard, Carra, and Torres will stay now.....Gerrard said himself Roy was a great appointment.....I hope.

but stevie didnt say he was looking forward to working with him?

benny and masc might be going but think others will stay hopefully

I doubt we will see Gerrard or Fernando leave, it's down too Masch really and I hope he gives RH a chance for once last season.

I doubt we will see Gerrard or Fernando leave, it's down too Masch really and I hope he gives RH a chance for once last season.

the players who might leave are to blaim for us losing 19 games rafa got sacked they get a big signing on fee for failure greedy bas**rds

the players who might leave are to blaim for us losing 19 games rafa got sacked they get a big signing on fee for failure greedy bas**rds

That was just a noise

but stevie didnt say he was looking forward to working with him?

I think that's a slightly paranoid reaction. I didn't used to believe Stevie would be here for the 10/11 campaign, but my opinion has shifted. I do believe Nando is staying for at least one more season, too.

Mascherano and Benayoun seem destined to leave of their own accord. I'm not happy to see them go, but if they don't want to be here, I'd be the last person to stop them.

I think Gerrard may stay because Roy is a good man manager who will get us playing decent football again, and he will have more of a say. If Torres does go we will get 50m of which about 25m will be available for a striker, it's not perfect but its not the end of the world. Also I think a lot of clubs are being put off Torres by his injury record and his appalling world cup, we all know how good he is but he can't stay fit can he?

At the end of the day we are in the sh*t, and we have attracted a decent manager who will hopefully give us a bit of pride back, Kenny will also get on well with Roy and I think things will generally be a bit more open around the place, Rafa was a bit negative and a closed book wasn't he?

I think Gerrard may stay because Roy is a good man manager who will get us playing decent football again, and he will have more of a say. If Torres does go we will get 50m of which about 25m will be available for a striker, it's not perfect but its not the end of the world. Also I think a lot of clubs are being put off Torres by his injury record and his appalling world cup, we all know how good he is but he can't stay fit can he?

At the end of the day we are in the sh*t, and we have attracted a decent manager who will hopefully give us a bit of pride back, Kenny will also get on well with Roy and I think things will generally be a bit more open around the place, Rafa was a bit negative and a closed book wasn't he?

Gerrard is as good as gone to Real.

Masch will definitely go this summer.

Benny has gone to Chelsea.

Torres will follow but not yet because the right deal isn't in place for his preferred destination but it won't be long.

Roy's budget is £15m less his release fee i.e. about £12m. He failed to get any assurance that sale proceeds would be re-invested in the squad because they won't be.

Economic realities are still economic realities and LFC under Hicks/Gillett/Purslime is a sinking ship. Roy is having his day and I wish him all the luck in the world because that is all he is going to get.This appointment is the icing on the cake of a long career. As has already been pointed out Roy is now older than Shanks was when he retired.


BTW Roy is not in the same league as Rafa.

"If I can just go on record again and say they are not for sale, we don't need the money. We don't have any desire or need to sell players in order to pay down the debt."

Under normal circumstances, this would close the case of players being flogged entirely.

But our board are hardly shining examples of the truth. It seems like it's more of a case of 'we're covering our backs so people think they're offski because they want to go.'

I hate what H&G have turned us in to.

I think everyone will stay except Mascherano and Yossi..
Others may leave but I think those players will be unwanted anyway..
Reina, Carra, Agger, Gerrard, Torres will be here- the spine of the team

It seems like it's more of a case of 'we're covering our backs so people think they're offski because they want to go.'

Spot on, Joey. I can hear it now. "We pleaded with Steven to stay, but inevitably the draw of being able to play Champions League football in Madrid was too strong. We, of course, wish Steven the best and would like to let RBS know that the check is in the mail."

TORRES latest.


#    @saveliverpoolfc  The interview with him was quite positive, I thought. Just seems he's making sure all the doors are open for him.     12 minutes ago  via Twitter for BlackBerry®  in reply to saveliverpoolfc

# Impression is that Torres is edging towards wanting out of #LFC. No firm decision yet, though. That'll come in a couple of weeks. about 1 hour ago via Twitter for BlackBerry®

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Just been reading about this on Rawk. Very worrying and by Tony Evans who is usually OK.  On Talksport this pm.

http://www.talksport.net/mediaplayer/media_player.asp?id=111351&c=&t=&rssPodcast=&podcastid=&mediaType=1

Pepe.

The only two that I'm certain will stay are Pepe and Carra, I'd like to think that Stevie would give us another season but I can see him being sold by the stealing bas**rds and Brooklyn's scene becoming a reality. I think Torres could be forced out people in his ear making chatter chatter about other teams being able to match his ambition in challenging for major honours. I hope though that any player that dose leave is replaced by ether some one with equivalent ability or better.

Hey Rafa.
You said fourth.
It wasnt.

Whatever (the MasterPlan) the players are now out in the cold looking in through the window at the Champions League.
?

Just been reading about this on Rawk. Very worrying and by Tony Evans who is usually OK.  On Talksport this pm.

http://www.talksport.net/mediaplayer/media_player.asp?id=111351&c=&t=&rssPodcast=&podcastid=&mediaType=1

Talksport the radios sun!!!!!

Tony Evans is a Liverpool supporter and usually talks sense ! I personally didn't hear it but as I posted , it was being discussed on Rawk. I just posted the link. Thought it was interesting !!
I DO  NOT and would NOT read the Sun and resent the comparison.

Did'nt mean to offend, but I have to listen to this tripe when on nights it is the radio version of the sun 

Whoever goes goes. Any player, no mater how good, can do one in my view if they arent happy to pull on that shirt

Despite those 2 shitehawks and there henchmen trying there best to ruin it this club is still and always will be very special. And any player who doesnt want to be part of it can move on. No such thing as a bit of loyalty any more. Big money contracts gladly signed and when things go bad they cant commit to staying! Spoilt kids

Whoever goes goes. Any player, no mater how good, can do one in my view if they arent happy to pull on that shirt

Despite those 2 shitehawks and there henchmen trying there best to ruin it this club is still and always will be very special. And any player who doesnt want to be part of it can move on. No such thing as a bit of loyalty any more. Big money contracts gladly signed and when things go bad they cant commit to staying! Spoilt kids

Good post Brian78.

Which players will STAY in the Summer?

The players that are genuinely happy to be here and those that signed for the honour of pulling on the famous red shirt. Anyone else is just a mercenary.

Exactly!

There has to be loyalty- I refuse to believe the game i love has turned to be completely about money!

Nando wanted four or five QUALITY players.

Hicks promised a BIG summer.




Why do I doubt both happening?

Which players will stay?  No idea and no one else does except the players themselves.

Which players will stay?  No idea and no one else does except the players themselves.

I doubt they do ether. I would't be surprised if privately the majority of the squad was made available by H&G and are o so great managing director Purslow. The only two I would bet my house on still being here next year are Pepe and Carra (by the way I don't own my house).

I'm a massive fan of Javier but after watching him lately I can see his many faults when he has the ball. He does pointless passes and takes the ball off of the center back only to pass it to the other center back or our right back, (a job that can easily be done by the center back who started with the ball) if he does decide to pass the ball forward its an easy pass that is most likely put right back at him. Don't get me wrong he wins the ball very well and frustrates teams but he has no initiative at all and without Xabi last year he was dumbfounded on many occasions and really struggled with ball at foot.. In Ireland our world cup panel compared him with Bastian Schweinsteiger and it was clear to see that he isn't a 'footballer'. I am of the opinion that there is no real need for a holding midfielder in todays game a midfielder must be able to both attack and defend. They are midfielders after all

If a 30 million pound bid did come from Inter or Barca I would be inclined to accept as this would give Woy 35 Million pounds realistically to spend on the development of the Liverpool squad. Rafa in my opinion made a  monumental mistake of keeping him here instead of Xabi as Alonso has proven in the world cup that if he is given space he creates an abundance of chances. Something Javier will never provide If he did go I would like Stevie and Alberto in the middle as the are two players who can control the tempo of all games and between the two of them they can decide on who attacks and holds back...

*I posted it in his player profile but I thought it would be worth a place in here too.

I'm a massive fan of Javier but after watching him lately I can see his many faults when he has the ball. He does pointless passes and takes the ball off of the center back only to pass it to the other center back or our right back, (a job that can easily be done by the center back who started with the ball) if he does decide to pass the ball forward its an easy pass that is most likely put right back at him. Don't get me wrong he wins the ball very well and frustrates teams but he has no initiative at all and without Xabi last year he was dumbfounded on many occasions and really struggled with ball at foot.. In Ireland our world cup panel compared him with Bastian Schweinsteiger and it was clear to see that he isn't a 'footballer'. I am of the opinion that there is no real need for a holding midfielder in todays game a midfielder must be able to both attack and defend. They are midfielders after all

If a 30 million pound bid did come from Inter or Barca I would be inclined to accept as this would give Woy 35 Million pounds realistically to spend on the development of the Liverpool squad. Rafa in my opinion made a  monumental mistake of keeping him here instead of Xabi as Alonso has proven in the world cup that if he is given space he creates an abundance of chances. Something Javier will never provide If he did go I would like Stevie and Alberto in the middle as the are two players who can control the tempo of all games and between the two of them they can decide on who attacks and holds back...

*I posted it in his player profile but I thought it would be worth a place in here too.

Except if we sell for 30 million, Roy won't get even half of it as it'll be going straight back into the banks pockets.

Except if we sell for 30 million, Roy won't get even half of it as it'll be going straight back into the banks pockets.

Ah but here is where the fun begins as Martin Broughton has stated in Roy's press conference that he would receive all the money from any potential sales. I am not naive I do realize he won't get all 30 million but he will receive roughly 20 million, (as Rafa received from Xabi's sale) which along with the sufficient funds he currently has ie. 15 million we are looking at the 35 million that I believe will be made available. Call me optimistic if you wish but Martin can't come out and say what he said about the sales and then do the opposite. Martin is a very shrewd business man and wouldn't want his reputation tarnished by being associated as a liar and scum. Look at Hicks and Gillette now they are being perceived as unapproachable by banks as their investments have turned sour for them. (One of the main reasons why are sale is being constructed by Martin as H&G are as I said 'unapproachable') Back on to the topic though I think Javier should be left go for transfer funds as he is not the type of midfielder we need in my opinion and if Gerrard and Torres stay well then we will have to thank Woy

we can add Kuyt to the list now!

Good to see Kuyt's not bailing out.

Kuyt keen on Liverpool stay

(UKPA) – 4 hours ago

Dirk Kuyt has given new Liverpool boss Roy Hodgson some good news by declaring his wish to remain at Anfield.

Kuyt is yet to speak with Rafael Benitez's replacement and will be otherwise engaged this weekend as he looks to win the World Cup with Holland, but once the excitement of life in South Africa has died down, Kuyt will have a chat with Hodgson.

"Of course I want to stay," said the 26-year-old. "Liverpool is a great club with a great history. Unfortunately in my four years I haven't won anything but hopefully in the future, I will still have that chance. We will have to see what happens but hopefully the manager wants me to stay."

He added: "I spoke to people at the club and I know he wants to speak with me. But it is very difficult at the moment because we are so busy and focus on what lies ahead."

However, Kuyt cannot hide his relief at being able to put a tortuous season behind him and get to the brink of such a staggering achievement with Holland.

The Dutch take on Spain on Sunday with both countries looking for their first World Cup success.

"It is really satisfying to end the season like this," he said. "It has been a long and hard season at Liverpool. Mentally it has been tough.

"You play for a club like that to win trophies and it did not happen.

"Thankfully, the Dutch manager gave me a week off after I had finished with Liverpool so I could focus on this tournament.

"That was good for me. Afterwards I trained hard. I fought for my place in the team. I am enjoying myself now and here we are in the final."

Think we can keep all bar Masch if meetings go as well as claimed.
Maybe lose Insua along the line also, but for the most part I don't think the squad will be cleaned out.
If Riera stays I can see him becoming one of the most unsupported players ever to feature for us.
If he stays it will take a fairly spectacular season for him to get fans onside.
I would prefer to support Pacheco though

I'm concerned about our young prospects.

I wonder what will happen to the likes of Pacheco, Nemeth and Kelly.

I'm concerned about our young prospects.

I wonder what will happen to the likes of Pacheco, Nemeth and Kelly.

Not sure about the first two but Im sure Kelly will shine under Hodgson.

Im sure Roy will see the ability of Pacheco and want to keep hold of him but Nemeth Im not so sure. Wouldnt suprise me if he got sold on which would be a shame as he showed lot of potential in the ressies

Heres to hoping they all stay!   

Benayoun has already left to warm Chelsea`s bench,
Mascherano looks almost certain to go, (i am mentally prepared for this one!)   

Pepe, Carragher, Kuyt, Jovananavich, Skrtel, Agger- have commited themselves!   

Out of the rest of them- i would only be gutted if Torres, Gerrard, Aquliani or Maxi left.

I think now we have a manager in place, they will be swaying more toward the staying!
Although i am thinking if we dont sell up & make a major improvement over the coming season- good players will leave!
   

If any of that Yossi stuff is true, why is he so cut when Rafa is no longer here? What if Roy likes him as a person and player much more than Ancelotti?

I wonder if Milan is going to keep Babel from playing. :\

If any of that Yossi stuff is true, why is he so cut when Rafa is no longer here? What if Roy likes him as a person and player much more than Ancelotti?

I wonder if Milan is going to keep Babel from playing. :\

I personally think everyone will be given a clean slate by Woy. And I certainly don't blame him for doing so.

It's a fresh start, and the best thing to do is start over with people that you've never met before. Give them all a chance to prove themselves, including the young'uns.

I think everyone bar Mascherano will be staying. So there's one slate that's getting smashed.

everyone except mascherano who wants to and reunite with rafa at inter, apart from that then it will be the same with hopefully some good buys from roy.

I'm concerned about our young prospects.

I wonder what will happen to the likes of Pacheco, Nemeth and Kelly.

I too wonder mate. We have a 10m academy and its about time we started using it. Hopefully between Roy and Kenny this will happen. Under the last regime the likes of Kelly and Pacheco would never have been given a good run in the side. But a new era brings a clean slate so lets see what Roy does. Hopefully the next Carras', Gerrards and Fowlers are not too far away!

Hopeful.

I too wonder mate. We have a 10m academy and its about time we started using it. Hopefully between Roy and Kenny this will happen. Under the last regime the likes of Kelly and Pacheco would never have been given a good run in the side. But a new era brings a clean slate so lets see what Roy does. Hopefully the next Carras', Gerrards and Fowlers are not too far away!

Considering Rafa said Kelly would have undoubtedly played more 1st team games last season if he hadn't got injured & Pacheco didn't quite look ready for regular first team football last sesaon, when he played, on what do you base your statement? It's no good bringing youth through if they aren't ready, but Rafa has left us with an Academy side & a few players in the Reserves that may actually break through to the first team.

Odds of about 13/8 were posted the other day regarding Torres leaving (for City I think those odds were for).

Odds on both Torres and Gerrard staying are evens with BetFred. Highlights the nature of the market. I wouldn't take much notice of odds with regards to either players.

Our three best players - Gerrard, Torres, Mascherano, I think the only player to go will be Mascherano.

Where will Torres go? I can't see him signing for another premiership club out of respect for liverpool. He can't sign for real due to his love of athletico. He won't sign for Inter because i don't think hes a great fan of Rafa. AC, Juve have never been linked with him, maybe they can't afford him and Barca have just signed Villa, i don't think they will sign another striker for big bucks, especially seen as their in the hunt for fabregas at present.

Same with Gerrard. Real have recently stated they will not make a move for him. He won't go to Inter because of Rafa. AC and Juve have never been linked with him. Barca don't need him. Chelsea won't pay the asking price and I really cannot see him moving to City. City are still 3 or 4 seasons away from winning the league in my opinion, he may as well finish his career at Anfield.

Other players such as Babel, Lucas, Riera, im really not fussed about. They can be replaced with similar players for similar money. Obviously they will have their own admirers but in my opinion those are the players that won't be missed, not by me anyway. Maybe shipping out 4 or 5 of those players and replacing them with new faces would do the team some good.

Our three best players - Gerrard, Torres, Mascherano, I think the only player to go will be Mascherano.

Where will Torres go? I can't see him signing for another premiership club out of respect for liverpool. He can't sign for real due to his love of athletico. He won't sign for Inter because I don't think hes a great fan of Rafa. AC, Juve have never been linked with him, maybe they can't afford him and Barca have just signed Villa, I don't think they will sign another striker for big bucks, especially seen as their in the hunt for fabregas at present.

Same with Gerrard. Real have recently stated they will not make a move for him. He won't go to Inter because of Rafa. AC and Juve have never been linked with him. Barca don't need him. Chelsea won't pay the asking price and I really cannot see him moving to City. City are still 3 or 4 seasons away from winning the league in my opinion, he may as well finish his career at Anfield.

Other players such as Babel, Lucas, Riera, im really not fussed about. They can be replaced with similar players for similar money. Obviously they will have their own admirers but in my opinion those are the players that won't be missed, not by me anyway. Maybe shipping out 4 or 5 of those players and replacing them with new faces would do the team some good.

based on facts?

Reported on SSN:

Roy can't get hold of Mascherano....


Could be in Spain as he is home sick remember 

Maybe shipping out 4 or 5 of those players and replacing them with new faces would do the team some good.

Except we won't get the money to bring in new faces. A free transfer in Jovanovich and less than two million on Shelvey, doesn't exactly fill me with confidence that we'll be throwing money around.

However, I've already stated in the mass exodus thread, that's there quite a few I wouldn't be disappointed to see go and wouldn't even be arsed if they were replaced or not. Riera, Babel, El Zhar all fit into that category.

As for who'll stay, well those who'll stay are those who want to stay. Those who wanna F**k off can get on the first plane from Speke for alls I care. I'm not gonna cry over anybody who wants to leave. Anybody who wants to leave the greatest club side in the world, isn't worth crying over.