Wingers

Id agree with pedersen on the left wing and Quaresma no the right, but if he is going to athletico madrid then i think we need to look at Alves !!!

Rafas just stated in an interview that hes only looking for wingers,i believe mancini from Roma is one,as`we have had   a reported bid of £13m  turned down,possible alves the other?

Interesting topic this. Watching the press conference earlier, I told my bf that we'd need a winger, and he was like "We have Pennant" What if he's injured "Move Gerrard out" No he's better in the middle THEN Rafa said he wants to get wingers in not defenders when asked about Beanz Meanz (Gabriel) Heinze .. Hah listen to me Hehe I clearly know more about footy than my bf.. but he is more of a rygbi guy. Ok rant over sorry guys!!

I think that Pennant done well last season just didnt play enough games to stay on form, i tihnk Kewell will play well this season but i would like someone like simao to come to liverpool, it will be intresting to see what Rafa does.

simao & mancini

I think that Pennant done well last season just didn't play enough games to stay on form,

Pennant played 52 times last Season? and scored once I was/am one of his biggest critics, however he showed a marked improvement toward the end of last season but was far to inconstant over the course of the season, heres hoping we see his form improve at the start of next season and my opinion changes

52 games? really? i didnt know that, i take back what i said then, but i do think he is still a good player.

52 games? really? I didnt know that, I take back what I said then, but I do think he is still a good player.

if he Carry's on with the same confidence he finished the season with I am sure he will  

If Pennant can get his act together next season we will only need a left winger i would go for Pedersen of Blackburn he would fit in nicely at Anfield.

Reds set to sign Stockport winger

Premiership side Liverpool have agreed a deal to sign teenage Stockport County winger Ryan Crowther.

The Reds will pay an undisclosed fee for the 18-year-old, who has agreed personal terms at Anfield.

The move will be completed once Crowther has completed a medical with the Anfield club next Monday.

Crowther started one first-team game and made a further appearance from the bench for Stockport since coming through the youth system.

from the BBC website.

Reds set to sign Stockport winger

Premiership side Liverpool have agreed a deal to sign teenage Stockport County winger Ryan Crowther.

The Reds will pay an undisclosed fee for the 18-year-old, who has agreed personal terms at Anfield.

The move will be completed once Crowther has completed a medical with the Anfield club next Monday.

Crowther started one first-team game and made a further appearance from the bench for Stockport since coming through the youth system.

from the BBC website.

Problem solved then

LETS STOP BEING SILLY PEDERSON FOR A TEAM LIKE LIVERPOOL JUST IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH.

I wish we would all have a look at what we need need . we need a pain the butt winger who never stops running at defenders and someone who has massive pace but uses it without running around like a headless chicken

man utd and Chelsea have great options on the flanks, lets not mess about we need x2 new proper paceman who can carry the fight with trickery and speed and get to the dead ball line and get in behind.

liverpool would look brilliant if we could get this done.


                   Reina

finnan    carragher   agger     riise

quares ma    Gerrard  Alonso       Mancini
(pace)         (pace)                   (pace)
                     simao
                     (link)
                     torres
                      (pace)

with width and the other places for competition on the bench.

pennant, kewell, crouch, kuyt etc .. etc... thats the type of squad and team we have to be looking at to even get 2nd place this year make no mistake  utd and Chelsea have to much power on the flanks and we all know this if we can get that as the new liverpool for the start of this season then we are back in the business

Problem solved then

Not in the team against Wrexham which is a suprise...so maybe he's not the answer Eddie...!

LETS STOP BEING SILLY PEDERSON FOR A TEAM LIKE LIVERPOOL JUST IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH.

Yes everyone, stop being silly. How dare you have an opinion, especially if it disagrees with samcharles.

Sam, don't you wonder why your rating already says minus 6 within about a day of the ratings starting? Try being more polite to other posters mate.

sam charles, if you watched pederson play you would notice he doesn't stop running, he has a great shot on him, and a huge danger from set plays, he frequently gets on the score sheet for blackburn, he is a quality winger and would be a cheaper option than mancini, he would probably cost around 11 million, I would love us to sign pederson.
On the right wing I would like us to sign Simao, but pennant was one of our best players last season, so if we only got some decent cover for him who will challenge him i would be happy.

I think Quaresma and beny are the two wide players likely to come in.Pennant at the end of last season and Kewell, now ,have shown signs of productivity.It will probably cost around 20mil to bring these two players in and i would like to see central defensive cover as well.Vincent Kompany is being talk about now, he would be an excellent buy,IMO one of the best young CB's around.

sam charles, if you watched pederson play you would notice he doesn't stop running, he has a great shot on him, and a huge danger from set plays, he frequently gets on the score sheet for blackburn, he is a quality winger and would be a cheaper option than mancini, he would probably cost around 11 million, I would love us to sign pederson.
On the right wing I would like us to sign Simao, but pennant was one of our best players last season, so if we only got some decent cover for him who will challenge him I would be happy.

I agree Liverbird. Like you I think Pedersen is worth looking at for the left side. He has all the qualities that samcharles said we need for a winger so I don't quite understand why he is against us going for him! The only thing he doesn't really have is a few tricks but that isn't always a good thing too. He is quick, scores goals, gets up and down the pitch and is a threat from set pieces, so for me is well worth £11M if that's what it would take.

I agree with Sam Charles we are very limited down the wings compared to man u with giggs ,ronaldo,Nani and Chelsea with robben ,swp, Joe Cole and soon malouda we need to get two wingers pacey, talented and with the ability to beat defenders and get in behind. if you look across Europe there seems not to be many wingers apart from the usually suspects it seems that more teams are playing narrow or with players in wide areas that you would not consider to be wingers but if we're talking the left Vicente or robinho (probably unrealistic, not really a winger) get my vote and the right quraesma or castelen from feyenoord Joaquin is great but he only just signed for Valencia last season and is too expensive.

I posted before in his thread that I thought Quaresma was a brilliant player but not the right player for us. He is a very skillful player but isn't that much of a goal threat, only averaging 4 goals a season whilst playing in a league that outside of the big three doesn't have a lot of quality. However I've considered the options we have on the left & think that maybe we will get enough goals from there. We have Kewell if he can stay fit (big if) and Riise, both of who can chip in with a good few. So maybe Quaresma would be ok for the left, as I said before he's a very skillfull player who will get a load of assists but not so many goals, initially my reason for not wanting him. But thinking about the other options we have he may not be a bad choice. On the right I definately think we need a goalscoring winger, I predict Pennant to have a good season, but I still don't think he'll score many. This would leave us with good options on either side. my suggestion would be Simao for the left, so you would be left with:

LEFT                             
Quaresma - Skillful player, will get crosses in
Kewell - Skillful player, will score goals
Riise - More solid defensively, but will chip in with goals

RIGHT
Pennant - Skillful player, will get crosses in
Simao - Skillful player, will score goals
Gerrard - More solid defensively, but will chip in with goals

For me that would be a perfect set of options for both flanks. Gerrard and Riise wouldn't need to play there very often, only really if the opposition has a dangerous winger. I agree with most that Gerrard is wasted on the right, but occassionally it's the best option, when nulifying the opposition winger is more important than getting the best out of Stevie. Against teams with poor aerial ability in defence we can play Pennant & Quaresma on the wings, both players who are going to get a lot of crosses in. Or we can go for a more balanced approach of an out & out winger on one side getting the crosses in, and more of an attacking side midfielder (Kewell or Simao) on the other side carrying a goal threat. I feel this would be particularly effective with Simao & Quaresma, as they are interchangable and can switch through the match, causing defenders nightmares.

I think only one top notch left winger is needed and some very highly rated youngsters for both sides.  Alot of people are talking of having two wingers (4-2-4)?, but that is just not going to happen.  Mascherano, alonso and Gerrard have to all play as much as possible they are players that can get in any team.  Its the problematic left hand side Kewell is in the treatment room far too long we need a world beater.    Gerrard gives us balance in midfield when put on the right.  Pennant needs to be given a chance too, i think we should not replace him yet but give him competition from a youngster.

I posted before in his thread that I thought Quaresma was a brilliant player but not the right player for us. He is a very skillful player but isn't that much of a goal threat, only averaging 4 goals a season whilst playing in a league that outside of the big three doesn't have a lot of quality. However I've considered the options we have on the left & think that maybe we will get enough goals from there. We have Kewell if he can stay fit (big if) and Riise, both of who can chip in with a good few. So maybe Quaresma would be ok for the left, as I said before he's a very skillfull player who will get a load of assists but not so many goals, initially my reason for not wanting him. But thinking about the other options we have he may not be a bad choice. On the right I definately think we need a goalscoring winger, I predict Pennant to have a good season, but I still don't think he'll score many. This would leave us with good options on either side. my suggestion would be Simao for the left, so you would be left with:

LEFT                             
Quaresma - Skillful player, will get crosses in
Kewell - Skillful player, will score goals
Riise - More solid defensively, but will chip in with goals

RIGHT
Pennant - Skillful player, will get crosses in
Simao - Skillful player, will score goals
Gerrard - More solid defensively, but will chip in with goals

For me that would be a perfect set of options for both flanks. Gerrard and Riise wouldn't need to play there very often, only really if the opposition has a dangerous winger. I agree with most that Gerrard is wasted on the right, but occassionally it's the best option, when nulifying the opposition winger is more important than getting the best out of Stevie. Against teams with poor aerial ability in defence we can play Pennant & Quaresma on the wings, both players who are going to get a lot of crosses in. Or we can go for a more balanced approach of an out & out winger on one side getting the crosses in, and more of an attacking side midfielder (Kewell or Simao) on the other side carrying a goal threat. I feel this would be particularly effective with Simao & Quaresma, as they are interchangable and can switch through the match, causing defenders nightmares.

i dont believe pennant is good enough.....i would take quaresma anyday Eddie....reason being....for the amount of times penant gets the ball, and for how many crosses he sends in, we dont score....he constantly gets into good positions and fails to produce a good quality ball to our strikers...quaresma can do that on the left or right hand side of the wings...i do believe quaresma should start on the right wing, and kewell can start on the left....however, quaresma is versatile and can play left wing as well....similarly with kewell, whom could play right wing. we should sign simao or babel for depth on the wings (right and left respectively), and im sorry but pennant falls in as our third string winger...
however, smart way of thinking with those players and when they should be played...

if you look at man u's wingers they have Ronaldo, Giggs, Nani all class wingers if you look at chelsea wingers, they have J.Cole SWP, Robben, Maloda, and now apparently Drethe, know look at Liverpools winger Pennant and Kewell there's the problem, we need a winger with skill and excitement to them which gets the crowd standing a winger that can beat a man with pace and skill and can swing in great crosses and score a few goals a player who understands the passion of what liverpool means to the supports and wants to play for liverpool not just happy to do an avarge days work and go home and spend all there money on what ever expensive things they buy not just playin for the money but playing 110% for the club, you know wingers like Mancini, Simao, Quearesma, and if they dont have that passion for the club then the likes of carragher and gerrard can say this is what playing for are club is all about, so work your socks off and we will achieve that title, so we can whipe that smile of fergusons old sagging face and let that scum bag Neveille have his ugly face rubbed into it and watch that diver Ronaldo walk of the pitch cryin his eyes out and let that Mourinho make up a stupid excuss like we didnt want to win any trothys this season.

Everyone was expecting wingers like Quaresma, Mancini, Simao

But we ended up with two players who are NOT wingers... Benayoun and Babel