Choc Ice!

Police investigate 'choc ice' tweet

Police have confirmed they have begun investigations over alleged racial abuse towards Ashley Cole on Twitter.

Rio Ferdinand made headlines over the weekend when he retweeted a comment labelling Cole a "choc ice" over his decision to support John Terry in court after he was accused of racially abusing Anton Ferdinand.

Ferdinand had tweeted: "I hear you fella! Choc ice is classic hahahahahahha!!"

The term is often taken to mean 'black on the outside and white on the inside', though the Manchester United defender insisted that was not his understanding of the phrase, tweeting: "What I said yesterday is not a racist term. Its a type of slang/term used by many for someone who is being fake. So there."

However, several Twitter users have complained to police that Chelsea left-back Cole had been the victim of racial abuse and an investigation is now underway over the original "choc ice" tweet, which was believed to have been made by a user in the Derbyshire area.

A spokeswoman for Derbyshire Constabulary said: "We have received complaints from members of the public regarding alleged racist comments made on a social networking site.

"These concerns will be fully investigated to establish whether any criminal offences have been committed."

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/1125150/police-investigate-alleged-racial-abuse-of-ashley-cole?cc=5739

I love choc ices, but hate ashley cole. Where do i stand in this debate?

Be careful with what you say on twitter kids....or else the state will hunt you down! Despite the fact I wouldn't use the term choc ice I think this case just shows a worrying trend of the state investigating matters like these. Anyone remember the trial of Paul Chambers below? Just one of many in the last couple of years that has got ridiculously out of hand.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trial_of_Paul_Chambers

Police investigate 'choc ice' tweet

Police have confirmed they have begun investigations over alleged racial abuse towards Ashley Cole on Twitter.

Rio Ferdinand made headlines over the weekend when he retweeted a comment labelling Cole a "choc ice" over his decision to support John Terry in court after he was accused of racially abusing Anton Ferdinand.

Ferdinand had tweeted: "I hear you fella! Choc ice is classic hahahahahahha!!"

The term is often taken to mean 'black on the outside and white on the inside', though the Manchester United defender insisted that was not his understanding of the phrase, tweeting: "What I said yesterday is not a racist term. Its a type of slang/term used by many for someone who is being fake. So there."

However, several Twitter users have complained to police that Chelsea left-back Cole had been the victim of racial abuse and an investigation is now underway over the original "choc ice" tweet, which was believed to have been made by a user in the Derbyshire area.

A spokeswoman for Derbyshire Constabulary said: "We have received complaints from members of the public regarding alleged racist comments made on a social networking site.

"These concerns will be fully investigated to establish whether any criminal offences have been committed."

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/1125150/police-investigate-alleged-racial-abuse-of-ashley-cole?cc=5739

Hahaha F***ing woppers.

Me....

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What iced product are you?

I love choc ices, but hate ashley cole. Where do i stand in this debate?

I am very partial to the treat meself mate but the quality of some choc ices has really deteriorated of late to the point of being absolute F***ing sh*te.

Me....

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What iced product are you?

that looks nice , i"m popping down to the shop to get me a black beauty.

What iced product are you?

The one on top:

The one on top:

You had your assets frozen Rep?

Twitter ... that's why I never want to use that.

So many incidents have arise from that social networking site.

Most of the things that have happened on that site or blown out of proportion by the media from that site are things every single person probably have done, does or will do in their daily life.

If charges and arrests are to be made, the whole world should be arrested and charged.

I'm the one on the right.

First thing I thought of when I heard this was the Fawlty Towers episode where Basil pretends he's forgotten his and Sybil's anniversary.

While Basil and Sybil's friends, who Basil has invited without telling Sybil, wait outside her room thinking she's ill (she's really fu**ed off to play golf because she's pissed off with Basil for forgetting the anniversary) Basil asks them if they'd like anything and one of their friends, Roger, asks for a choc ice.

(2/2) Fawlty Towers - The Anniversary (S02 E05) (about 7 mins in)

omg racism!! everyone riot!!!

First thing I thought of when I heard this was the Fawlty Towers episode where Basil pretends he's forgotten his and Sybil's anniversary.

While Basil and Sybil's friends, who Basil has invited without telling Sybil, wait outside her room thinking she's ill (she's really fu**ed off to play golf because she's pissed off with Basil for forgetting the anniversary) Basil asks them if they'd like anything and one of their friends, Roger, asks for a choc ice.

(2/2) Fawlty Towers - The Anniversary (S02 E05) (about 7 mins in)

 

I was just watching this very episode a few nights ago. Hadn't seen it in a while! Never ever gets old.

This is just a masive facepalm.

I hate Rio but seriously, if this gets police attention then come to where i live and half the people would be in a prison cell.

I don't think it is Rio that is in bother, more the guy who tweeted to Rio in the first place.

Me....

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What iced product are you?

You're Vanilla Ice? You've got some 'splaining to do.

You're Vanilla Ice? You've got some 'splaining to do.

Yo....


One short life and I can't die
Some got more pricks than a motherfuckin porcupine
Still I'm waiting, waiting to die
Cause I burn like your mother says, boil like your father's pride

You can't F**k wit my licks mo fo.

I think I've just turned.....

I'm now a profiterole.

United have enough political power to make this go away. Just ask Luis.

The manicured racism being associated with a familiar ice cream description and ridiculously so, must surely be compared to the equally sculptured racism charge by the FA and Co. on Luis Suarez.

"Fake" my hairy hole. Ferdinand knows exactly what "Choc-Ice" means; just as that other c**t Piara Powar knew what he meant when he called a Liverpool fan a "Coconut".

I couldn't give a F**k what anyone is called but then again I'm not a team-mate of Evra's or a brother of Anton's and I haven't been up in arms and very vocal about the perceived racism they 'suffered'. 

If I was, however, I'd be wary about using or repeating racist language myself; in fear of being a labeled a F***ing HYPOCRITE.



 

Me....

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What iced product are you?

This bi*ch all day long!!

"Fake" my hairy hole. Ferdinand knows exactly what "Choc-Ice" means; just as that other c**t Piara Powar knew what he meant when he called a Liverpool fan a "Coconut".

I couldn't give a F**k what anyone is called but then again I'm not a team-mate of Evra's or a brother of Anton's and I haven't been up in arms and very vocal about the perceived racism they 'suffered'. 

If I was, however, I'd be wary about using or repeating racist language myself; in fear of being a labeled a F***ing HYPOCRITE.

It's just slang they use in the hood, innit!!

This bi*ch all day long!!

I've seen a picture of you HR, you had a spray tan?

Yeah right Plug, it's only a slang/term for someone who's judged as being fake to the colour of their skin and is used by Negritos to describe other Negritos who they think are forgetting their heritage and siding with the paler persuasion in society.

I'm 1/26th Uruguayan by the way.

I've seen a picture of you HR, you had a spray tan?

Yeah right Plug,

Hahaha yeah right I call him that, dead ringer for Plug out the Beano - better be careful tho cos that might just be seen as comic bookist by some polically correct get someone in the sh*t character.

[edit]I would like to make it clear that the above remark is not associated with any individual living or otherwise especially HR who'll get us all F***ing banned if he kicks off.

Quite like these myself.
No I don't mean I'm nutty on the inside.

To be fair I think the last part of Ferdinand's arguement is very compelling it convinced me. 'So there' Haha

I know not what you mean Stu, if the cap fits an all that........

Rio Ferdinand, ugly b***ard.

To be fair I think the last part of Ferdinand's arguement is very compelling it convinced me. 'So there' Haha

That bit amused me as well, he sounds like an 8 year old girl 

To be fair I think the last part of Ferdinand's arguement is very compelling it convinced me. 'So there' Haha

I'd have more respect for Ferdinand if he admitted he called Ashley an Uncle Tom.

I've seen a picture of you HR, you had a spray tan?

Yeah right Plug, it's only a slang/term for someone who's judged as being fake to the colour of their skin and is used by Negritos to describe other Negritos who they think are forgetting their heritage and siding with the paler persuasion in society.

I'm 1/26th Uruguayan by the way.

 

What the F**k!!!

Yo....


One short life and I can't die
Some got more pricks than a motherfuckin porcupine
Still I'm waiting, waiting to die
Cause I burn like your mother says, boil like your father's pride

You can't f**k wit my licks mo fo.

I think I've just turned.....

I'm now a profiterole.

 


In tears here, fuuuuckin ell funny that.

#

Yeah right Plug, it's only a slang/term for someone who's judged as being fake to the colour of their skin and is used by Negritos to describe other Negritos who they think are forgetting their heritage and siding with the paler persuasion in society.

Ha ha. Like Ashley, I too suffered from Rio's brand of racial abuse.

Many, many, moons ago I was buying some Charlie of a looky-looky man in Magaluf but I wouldn't part with any readies 'til I got a taste. When I fu**ed him off and threw the non-gear back at him; he done that sucking through his teeth sh*t and called me a Chicken Nugget (before running like F**k). 'What the F**k sort of an insult is Chicken Nugget?', I thought as I bounced a bear bottle off the f**ker's back. Little did I know.   

Oh and by "Charlie" I mean chocolate kids 'cause drugs are bad mkay.

I've even be the subject of Homophobia (even though I'm as straight as a Roman road) - but that story is for again.

To be fair Rio is protecting and fighting for his brother... Right or wrong what he said or endorsed that's all it was.. He is f**king off friendships in defending his brother..can't help but respect him for what he feels are his principles..

We have all slagged off John terry for the incident yet slag off Rio for doing the same thing yet with a more vested interest than ours?

In a sense they are all being and are cu*ts ... But at least Rio is being upfront with his stance and can't be accused of being two faced.

But at least Rio is being upfront with his stance and can't be accused of being two faced.

But he is being two-faced P_d mate. He defended his brother against Terry's racist remarks (no problem there) and I'll assume he was well pissed at Terry getting off because of a defence that was "I wasn't being racist" (again no problem there) but...

To then hit Cole with a racist jibe and pretend he didn't know what it means? Well... you get my drift.

But he is being two-faced P_d mate. He defended his brother against Terry's racist remarks (no problem there) and I'll assume he was well pissed at Terry getting off because of a defence that was "I wasn't being racist" (again no problem there) but...

To then hit Cole with a racist jibe and pretend he didn't know what it means? Well... you get my drift.

Yes I do but in terms of where he stands I meant...

But yes I get you.

Yes I do but in terms of where he stands I meant...

No probs P_diddy. I actually admire his loyalty - a quality I, personally, hold very dear. 

No probs P_diddy. I actually admire his loyalty - a quality I, personally, hold very dear. 

Me too mate which is why I wanted to point it out...

Loyalty is everything.

Rio Ferdinand charged by FA for 'choc ice' tweet

A statement on the FA website  read: "The allegation is that the player acted in a way which was improper and/or bought the game into disrepute by making comments which included a reference to ethnic origin and/or colour and/or race."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19052103

FA statement looks familiar

Just took this off facebook  Spot the difference 

8 match BAN

FA going after him with Magnum Force?

FA going after him with Magnum Force?

You been waiting to use that, haven't you.

So? Suarez was saying something in his native language...
Also, for what it's worth there is actually more evidence of racism here than in the whole Suarez thing!

It is absolutely a racist term, the only thing in Ferdinand's defence is he's so overwhelmingly dumb that he barely understands the English language. I truly hope they find him guilty of being a racist and then see the difference of reaction towards him in the stadiums around the country compared to the disgraceful behaviour Luis has had to endure and then anyone try to justify the clear discrimination on a grand scale which is absolutely a bigger issue than isolated single incidents.

It is absolutely a racist term, the only thing in Ferdinand's defence is he's so overwhelmingly dumb that he barely understands the English language.

8 game ban for racist comments plus an extra game for being F***ing stupid 

 

Technicality, if a black person calls another black person by a slang term to describe a black person, can that be racist, as they are of the same race?

If so, if I (a white person) was to call Prince Charles (another white person) "Honky", would that be considered to be racist? As we are of the same race, Anglo-Saxon how could I racially insult him, without insulting myself.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honky

Just asking?

You see, I don't think in this case Choc Ice is racist, just name calling.
(Still an 8 game ban though)

I'm not looking for an argument, just your views. Thanks

Technicality, if a black person calls another black person by a slang term to describe a black person, can that be racist, as they are of the same race?

Good point but, if we allow black people to call each other black but punish white poeple for calling black people black, are we not descriminating against white people and creating a 'them and us' culture that anit-racism campaigns are supposed to be against?

I despise the whole concept of Positive Discrimination. It is just discrimination, plain and simple.

I know where you're coming from RedPuppy and in truth you have a perfectly valid point, I'm just still very bitter over the Suarez affair.

As to whether you can racially abuse someone from your own ethnic group, I believe it can be argued that if the term is socially recognised as being racist and discriminatory it should not be defensible purely on the basis that it would be deemed as an insult to yourself. Exaggerating this to a point to emphasise it further if somebody black was found to be a member of the KKK their crimes would not be any less disgusting and racist than if it were a white man it perhaps only would be harder to comprehend.

This perhaps just demonstrates Ferdinand's absolute retarded nature that he would use such a term when it would be recognised as racist. In many ways it reflects the Suarez case because Ferdinand's defence is that in his language this is considered a term of insult rather than racist but in society as a whole and which he currently exists this would be considered racist and therefore should be tried and found guilty with that interpretation rather than the interpretation from his personal perspective otherwise they are surely discriminating against Suarez.

I don't think it's racist. The expression does not put the black part as inferior to the white part, nor viceversa. It's refers to his "incoherent" behavior, which is not the one to be expected from a black person (?). You could call this racist, but then again I think it's not, as the behavior expected (loyalty or something like that) has it's roots in some kind of -supposed- shared social  experience or even some historical mumbo-jumbo, nothing "race" related in strict terms.

It's like you can be a good or a bad black person, but the sole fact of being black is not being put as a bad thing, so I don't quite get where the racism lies. I know it stills adscribes some characteristics to persons according to the color of their skin, but not so much as what being black means per se (in a biological way), but as what you socially owe to other black persons, cause, you know, you're black too. Which is dumb, yes, but not racist.

IMHO, many things that appear racist to "society" are not when carefully examined, but there's just so much paranoia that one might go to jail for prefering white marble to black marble.

On the other hand, I don't think the color of your skin has anything to do with whatever you say being racist or not. The fact that you insult yourself does not denies the fact that you're insulting someone else. Pretty much like suicide bombers.

I'd have more respect for Ferdinand if he admitted he called Ashley an Uncle Tom.

Indeed Rodders. He knew what he was at but realised he'd crossed a line and quickly back-tracked with that 'it means fake' bullshit.

Choc-Ice is close enough (to Uncle Tom) without going the whole hog. I'd imagine Cole (and a sh*t-load of others) would see it as a racial slur; otherwise there would have been no kick up in the first instance. 

Rio will get an 8 match ban and Terry will walk away free, that's the Fa's justice.

Rio will get an 8 match ban and Terry will walk away free, that's the Fa's justice.

Manchester Utd's Rio? ... tut tut Blud. 

I suppose he could always just climb out a back window and run if they come looking him. 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18847477

Rio Ferdinand denies FA charge of improper conduct

Manchester United's Rio Ferdinand has contested a Football Association charge of improper conduct in relation to comments he posted on Twitter.
The England defender earlier denied that he was being racist after responding to a tweet describing Chelsea's Ashley Cole as a "choc ice".
He said a tweet he was sent about Cole was "classic". Lawyers for Cole said he would not be complaining.
Ferdinand has now requested a personal hearing with the FA......

What does 'choc ice' mean?

John Amaechi
Former NBA basketball player, psychologist and educator
"It is the idea that a black person is black only in skin colour but inside they are really white. It's a highly derogatory term. It's a dangerous term because it allows black boys especially but black people in general, to believe that there is a way of being black that is somehow distinct from being white. There are people that think if you don't wear a certain type of clothing or listen to a certain type of music you're not really black. It's a really dangerous thing. There are black boys who do less well in school because they believe by doing well there, they are acting white. To me, this is devastating for black boys and black people everywhere. It's a deeply offensive term with racial connotations."

So let me get this right, black people calling each other 'nigger' is not racist, but if a white man does it is.

But if a Black man calls another Black man 'Choc Ice' its dagerous and racist.

The mind boggles at the world we live in.

So let me get this right, black people calling each other 'nigger' is not racist, but if a white man does it is.

But if a Black man calls another Black man 'Choc Ice' its dagerous and racist.

The mind boggles at the world we live in.

Nail on head.

£45,000 fine, what is that? 2days pay?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18847477

So say a word in Spanish that means 'Black' = 8 match ban

Tweet the phrase 'Choc Ice' to another person of same colour = £45,000 fine

Actually caught on camera uttering the words 'Black b***ard' and 'Black c**t' = No fine, no match ban, nothing, nada.

The FA = Spineless cu*ts to the very end!

Totally disgusted by this and the medias reaction to it. Sky news seem to find it amusing , such a marked contrast to their reaction to Luis , which is still ongoing.
The FA are incompetent fools and not fit for purpose , bunch of lying hypocrites every last one of them.

Agreed. ^^^

Rio Ferdinand ‏@rio5ferdy
Got fined 45k over a stupid comment. Would have got off if I'd hired John Terry's legal team. #fact
Retweeted by Andy Heaton

So say a word in Spanish that means 'Black' = 8 match ban

Tweet the phrase 'Choc Ice' to another person of same colour = £45,000 fine

Actually caught on camera uttering the words 'Black b***ard' and 'Black c**t' = No fine, no match ban, nothing, nada.

The FA = Spineless cu*ts to the very end!

The spineless cu*ts have boxed themselves into a corner, their position is completely untenable.
Their inconsistency and hypocrisy is embarrassing.