Liverpool v Bournemouth League Cup 4th Round Weds 28/10 7:45ko

After 3 successive draws will Klopp stay with a full strength side or choose to rotate?

I'm torn between that but I can see this side starting:

* Milner is suspended after his booking vs Southampton

Mignolet

Clyne
Skrtel
Sakho
Moreno

Allen
Lucas (c)
Emre Can

Firmino
Ibe

Benteke

Subs: Bogdan; Randall, Toure; Brannagan; Coutinho, Teixeira; Origi.

Doubt Sturridge will be fit enough to make the squad.

Let's go lads, 3-0 to us!

It's really important to win this one, hopefully convincingly,  to build momentum before we get Maureen sacked!

I saw enough signs yesterday to suggest we will.

I want Bogdan to start he deserves it after his last round heroics. But maybe klopp has different ideas.

I think there will be a few changes, we have had too many games in quick succession not to make changes for a league cup game.

1 young padawan to come in, Joe allen to start for milner, kolo to start rest Sahko.

Benteke & Firmino to play at least 60 mins.


??

---------- Bogdan ----------

- Clyne - Kolo - Lovren - Enrique -

-------- Allen - Can ----------------

- Ibe -- Texeria - Firmino --

------- Benteke --------------

I think the regulars should be given a rest for this one. They need a break to recharge their batteries and get back to the full throttle football that we saw in the first 30 mins at Spurs.

Hope to see Benteke, at least start against Bournemouth on Wednesday. btw who is our penalty taker, anyone have a clue ?

Hope to see Benteke, at least start against Bournemouth on Wednesday. btw who is our penalty taker, anyone have a clue ?

More importantly, who the F**k is our free kick specialist?

Strongest team bitte.  Could be a slog in the PL this season, need to stay alive in Cups as long as possible. Would be disappointed if we play a 'weakened' team.

Strongest team bitte.  Could be a slog in the PL this season, need to stay alive in Cups as long as possible. Would be disappointed if we play a 'weakened' team.

I know what you are saying but some need rested mate, Klopp will be worried about more injuries. Bonus though Benteke & Firmino need a start this is ideal for them to get more minutes.

Be interesting to see if Bournemouth change things, they have had a slide down the table.

I know what you are saying but some need rested mate, Klopp will be worried about more injuries. Bonus though Benteke & Firmino need a start this is ideal for them to get more minutes.

Be interesting to see if Bournemouth change things, they have had a slide down the table.

Fair enough, if he thinks a guy needs a rest. But I would treat this just like a PL game ie. not save guys for the PL. Not sure I've ever said that before, as think the PL should always take priority over anything else. But with new manager coming in, and all the rest of it, would be open-minded as to the quickest route to better performances on the pitch.

                          Bogdan
        Randall  Skrtel   Sakho  Moreno
                  Can     Allen  Teixieira
             Lallana               Ibe
                          Benteke

Mignolet; Clyne, Toure; Lucas, Teixiera; Origi, Sinclair

Hope to see Benteke, at least start against Bournemouth on Wednesday. btw who is our penalty taker, anyone have a clue ?

Don't know mate.. Just don't let Can take one..

More importantly, who the f**k is our free kick specialist?

Probably Milner for PK. If Milner is out I would imagine it's Benteke. FKs are probably Coutinho and Milner

More importantly, who the f**k is our free kick specialist?

Jimmy Case !!

Why do we always seem to be getting these in cup games?! about 3 or 4 seasons running now. Not that I'm complaining mind, seeing as we beat them and I expect the same this time.

Why do we always seem to be getting these in cup games?! about 3 or 4 seasons running now. Not that I'm complaining mind, seeing as we beat them and I expect the same this time.

It's like when we used to get Chelsea in the Champions League nearly every year.

           Mignolet
Clyne Skrtel Sahko Moreno
       Allen Can
Ibe     Firmino    Tex
        Benteke

With that lil bit of creativity behind big ben we should be able to put at least 3 pass them... Also ensures Milner, Lucas, Coutinho & Lallana are fit against Chelsea.

I'd like to see Phillippe and Firmino  both starting behind Benteke
 The rest I leave to Klopp....

joking apart yes I would like to see them both starting , 
Bournemouth got a  beating last weekend and they will try to bounce back from that, so we have to be a bit more careful with these

YNWA

Fair enough, if he thinks a guy needs a rest. But I would treat this just like a PL game ie. not save guys for the PL. Not sure I've ever said that before, as think the PL should always take priority over anything else. But with new manager coming in, and all the rest of it, would be open-minded as to the quickest route to better performances on the pitch.

Would be preferable to keep same team totally agree, but they have been playing every 3 days, think it will get changed a bit, maybe not as much as I predict though, maybe just 3 or 4 max.

More importantly, who the f**k is our free kick specialist?

coutinho. Even though hes has not scored yet. think hendo might be on them when fit.

Could also gove Big Ben a go, or Firmino. Im sure Milner has scored FK's bfre too. He is probably on Penners.

Wouldnt mind seeing Chrivella and Texeira given a start

Klopp: "I don't know how many changes we will make [against Bournemouth], but for sure one or two young players.

Tex, Randall, Chirivella, Brannagan?

@TonyBarretTimes: Juergen Klopp confirms Daniel Sturridge will not be fit to face Bournemouth.

Changes for tmrws game, 3 games in 8 days or something, so needs to rest players with knocks etc.

I want Bogdan to start he deserves it after his last round heroics. But maybe klopp has different ideas.

I think there will be a few changes, we have had too many games in quick succession not to make changes for a league cup game.

1 young padawan to come in, Joe allen to start for milner, kolo to start rest Sahko.

Benteke & Firmino to play at least 60 mins.


??

---------- Bogdan ----------

- Clyne - Kolo - Lovren - Enrique -

-------- Allen - Can ----------------

- Ibe -- Texeria - Firmino --

------- Benteke --------------

I don't think there's any value in playing Enrique any more when the chance is there to develop players like Randall etc. Just not ambitious enough and starts turning the first eleven into a rejects eleven compared to a possible future eleven.

I don't think there's any value in playing Enrique any more when the chance is there to develop players like Randall etc. Just not ambitious enough and starts turning the first eleven into a rejects eleven compared to a possible future eleven.

Doubt we'll ever see Enrique even make the bench under Jürgen's management.

As many games as possible cant be bad ... for Klopp to integrate his ideas.
No better place than a match day.

Jesusl! Ibe must have concrete knees after his slight bump into sturridge how long ago now ??

Doubt we'll ever see Enrique even make the bench under Jürgen's management.

Riise was on twitter last week tweeting not too complimentary things about him. Said that he hoped never to see Enrique play for Liverpool again. Don't know whether John has had some inside info there but it seems consistent with the idea that he's been a right feckless arse of late.

Stage is set for Teixeira's home Liverpool FC debut against Bournemouth

Joao Carlos Teixeira is in contention to make his home debut in Liverpool’s League Cup tie with Bournemouth at Anfield on Wednesday night.

Boss Jürgen Klopp is considering handing the Portuguese attacking midfielder only his second senior appearance for the Reds as the German prepares to make changes with one eye on Saturday’s Premier League trip to Chelsea.

Teixeira has been waiting patiently for a chance to impress since battling his way back to fitness in pre-season after a broken leg prematurely ended a successful loan spell at Brighton last term.

Many of the Reds’ most gifted youngsters went out on loan over the summer to continue their development but Teixeira stayed put after being assured that he would get game time.

That failed to happen under Rodgers with Teixeira surprisingly omitted from Liverpool’s Europa League squad. However, the talented rookie is now hoping that Klopp, who named him on the bench for his first game in charge at Tottenham, will put his faith in him.

If Teixeira gets a run out against Eddie Howe’s Bournemouth side then he will realise a dream by making his home bow.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stage-set-teixeiras-home-liverpool-10342559

I don't think its Klopp's style to ease injured players back in. Only 100% fit players will be considered capable of applying the press. One or two players rested but most likely replaced by youngsters. Would like to see Tex get a chance.

I'm going for a 1-1 draw

Riise was on twitter last week tweeting not too complimentary things about him. Said that he hoped never to see Enrique play for Liverpool again. Don't know whether John has had some inside info there but it seems consistent with the idea that he's been a right feckless arse of late.

Yeah I saw that FMS, I doubt he would have tweeted that without some foundation and it appears with Randall getting named ahead of him that Enrique finds himself right on the bottom of the pecking order, perhaps exactly where he wants to be by all accounts.

Stage is set for Teixeira's home Liverpool FC debut against Bournemouth

Joao Carlos Teixeira is in contention to make his home debut in Liverpool’s League Cup tie with Bournemouth at Anfield on Wednesday night.

Boss Jürgen Klopp is considering handing the Portuguese attacking midfielder only his second senior appearance for the Reds as the German prepares to make changes with one eye on Saturday’s Premier League trip to Chelsea.

Teixeira has been waiting patiently for a chance to impress since battling his way back to fitness in pre-season after a broken leg prematurely ended a successful loan spell at Brighton last term.

Many of the Reds’ most gifted youngsters went out on loan over the summer to continue their development but Teixeira stayed put after being assured that he would get game time.

That failed to happen under Rodgers with Teixeira surprisingly omitted from Liverpool’s Europa League squad. However, the talented rookie is now hoping that Klopp, who named him on the bench for his first game in charge at Tottenham, will put his faith in him.

If Teixeira gets a run out against Eddie Howe’s Bournemouth side then he will realise a dream by making his home bow.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stage-set-teixeiras-home-liverpool-10342559

Can't wait, think he'll make a huge impact to our game, time to grasp this opportunity Tex!!

Can't wait, think he'll make a huge impact to our game, time to grasp this opportunity Tex!!

I hope he does too Luke, he gives us something different to Cou and could do exceptionally well for us in time.

Gone for 3-1 on this one but one things for sure it's going to be a win or loss for Jürgen tomorrow !

I see Benteke is now injured and out of this one. Will we catch a break this season? To be honest, I see us struggling to score against anyone with the hapless Origi up there. I'd rather we went with a false 9 or gave Jordan Ibe a go up there

Benteke out and for Saturday 

Rumours it's his ACL

It was madness spending that much money on a injury prone striker.

Typical that the only striker who hasn't scored and doesn't look likely to, is fit as a butchers f**king dog.

Even Balotelli out on loan is injured

Typical that the only striker who hasn't scored and doesn't look likely to, is fit as a butchers f**king dog.

Even Balotelli out on loan is injured

Can't get injured standing still 

Give our middies don't really score many goals we're actually pretty much Fuc....ked without Studge, Ings and Benteke.

I'm serious, I'd give Ibe a game or two and see what he can offer, or perhaps young Sinclair. Origi is not the answer even if he is the only available answer.

Good news is the chavs are in poor shape for the weekend having gone to extra time and blow it on pens tonight

Give our middies don't really score many goals we're actually pretty much Fuc....ked without Studge, Ings and Benteke.

I'm serious, I'd give Ibe a game or two and see what he can offer, or perhaps young Sinclair. Origi is not the answer even if he is the only available answer.

Good news is the chavs are in poor shape for the weekend having gone to extra time and blow it on pens tonight

More chance of getting a Chelsea striker on our scoresheet on Saturday than Origi getting on it. Can't believe we're probably going to Stamford Bridge with Origi leading the line.

Benteke out and for Saturday 

For fucks sake!

Give our middies don't really score many goals we're actually pretty much Fuc....ked without Studge, Ings and Benteke.

I'm serious, I'd give Ibe a game or two and see what he can offer, or perhaps young Sinclair. Origi is not the answer even if he is the only available answer.

Good news is the chavs are in poor shape for the weekend having gone to extra time and blow it on pens tonight

The Liverpool manager knows his player well from Germany and he believes he was for a period the best player in the Bundesliga last year.

“Last time with Brazil he played as a nine, usually he plays in offensive midfield or second striker or he can come from the wing, he can play in the centre. He’s a pretty skilled player.

“There was some time, I would say one year ago, when he was for a few months for sure the best player in the Bundesliga.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/klopp-rules-out-early-liverpool-10342420?

Maybe Firmino?

Typical that the only striker who hasn't scored and doesn't look likely to, is fit as a butchers f**king dog.

Even Balotelli out on loan is injured

Pretty much sums up our luck this season. How is that possible though?

Maybe Firmino?

No other choice, right? I really don't fancy Origi at all.

Typical that the only striker who hasn't scored and doesn't look likely to, is fit as a butchers f**king dog.

Even Balotelli out on loan is injured

Depressing. Like having Daniel O Donnell leading a Navy Seals task force at the moment.

It's time to think about the prospect of Firminho playing there for most of the season (if he can stay fit), he's got the opportunity now to make this position his own.

It's time to think about the prospect of Firminho playing there for most of the season (if he can stay fit), he's got the opportunity now to make this position his own.

Might be better playing Joe Allen there. At least if he gets injured no one cares.

Might be better playing Joe Allen there. At least if he gets injured no one cares.

 

He could be the 'Welsh Schillaci'.

Rumours it's his ACL

F**k off, hopefully these aren't credible rumours?

As so many were saying in the transfer thread it was a massive gamble going for someone with injury issues when we had Sturridge too. You can gamble once, but doing it while you're short handed already was stupidity.

3 strikers out injured and one only just returning though is absolutely rotten luck.

Edit:

Just seen this tweet:

Anfield HQ ‏@AnfieldHQ  56m56 minutes ago
Christian Benteke has become the latest casualty in  Klopp's striker crisis after suffering a medial knee ligament injury. (Paul Joyce)

So hopefully not nearly as bad as an ACL but still could be a while depending on the grade of the injury.

The Liverpool manager knows his player well from Germany and he believes he was for a period the best player in the Bundesliga last year.

“Last time with Brazil he played as a nine, usually he plays in offensive midfield or second striker or he can come from the wing, he can play in the centre. He’s a pretty skilled player.

“There was some time, I would say one year ago, when he was for a few months for sure the best player in the Bundesliga.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/klopp-rules-out-early-liverpool-10342420?

Maybe Firmino?

Yeah that's not a bad shout mate, I still wonder if he has strength to play up there, he has looked quite lightweight so far but he was bright at the weekend. But I do like the pace and power that Ibe brings to the table, he would offer some genuine pace on the break as well.

We are just going to have to hope Firmino is capable there.

Not in a million years is Origi going to do it for us - I'd just laugh if I see him starting against Chelsea. His performance against Southampton was one of the worst performances I've seen at Liverpool in years - and that really IS saying something.

With Chelsea & Arsenal going out yesterday there is a possibility of winning something here ....... Imagine Klopp winning a trophy so quickly

Grab a couple of strikers from the U19's and stick Suarez masks on them. If it doesn't work against Bournemouth.... its bound to at least terrorise Ivanovic on the weekend.

With Chelsea & Arsenal going out yesterday there is a possibility of winning something here ....... Imagine Klopp winning a trophy so quickly

Now won't that be something nice 😉

F**k off, hopefully these aren't credible rumours?

As so many were saying in the transfer thread it was a massive gamble going for someone with injury issues when we had Sturridge too. You can gamble once, but doing it while you're short handed already was stupidity.

3 strikers out injured and one only just returning though is absolutely rotten luck.

Edit:

Just seen this tweet:

Anfield HQ ‏@AnfieldHQ  56m56 minutes ago
Christian Benteke has become the latest casualty in  Klopp's striker crisis after suffering a medial knee ligament injury. (Paul Joyce)

So hopefully not nearly as bad as an ACL but still could be a while depending on the grade of the injury.

Yep, apparently it's just a ligament strain - my bad

It's time for our REDMEN to show Jürgen  Klopp that they know how to put the ball in the opposition net and stop the ball from going into our net. Come on lads stop F***ing around and get the job done and set us on our way to our first trophy of the season.

I'm not even going to attempt to guess at the line up.
I'm losing track of who's injured, who's suspended and who needs rested. 😡

6.45am KO here, better F***ing WIN because I'm getting up to watch this.

I'm hoping Sinclair gets a go. I saw him for the U21s against Chelsea at Aldershot. He's not the quickest, not the strongest and not the most technically gifted but he seems to have a knack of getting into the right place at the right time. With the right quality around him, I feel optimistic.

Randall and Ibe have been in the 18 the past couple of weeks so if we're going down the youngsters route then surely both of them will be starting?

ffs.  another setback for Benteke
he is to miss today's game( if he was going to play )
another knee injury in training
don't know for how long he will not be available, today for sure and most likely for the weekend too

YNWA

Saw some tweets suggesting Tex is in contention to start the game.

Hope its true.

6.45am KO here, better F***ing WIN because I'm getting up to watch this.

Gonna be a F***ing long day if we don't win.

Give Origi the first half and then bring on Firmino in the second with Coutinho behind him to get set up for Saturday, it seems like Benteke will be out.

I might even be tempted to keep Origi on in the second half and move him out wide as one thing he has is pace.

https://twitter.com/pjoyceexpress/status/659323923591491584

https://twitter.com/pjoyceexpress/status/659323952414785536

So could be

Bogdan

Randall
Toure
Skrtel
Moreno

Allen
Brannagan

Ibe
Tex
Lallana

Origi


Good to see the youngsters get a chance.

No Enrique?

No Enrique?

Jose Enrique was set to start at left-back, but has not trained for the last few days due to a knock. [James Pearce]

If it is to be Origi, then I can only imagine Jerome Sinclair, Yesil or whatever he's called and all the other young strikers can't be thought anywhere near ready.

If it is to be Origi, then I can only imagine Jerome Sinclair, Yesil or whatever he's called and all the other young strikers can't be thought anywhere near ready.

Yesil is out on loan mate and I doubt Sinclair is any more prepared than Origi.
Who by the way I think is getting too much stick, young inexperienced player who has been isolated with no support from Coutinho and Lallana, I think he will come good in time. Klopp rates him highly

Tex really needs to take his opportunity he's not a youngster any more, has been omitted from the EL so the League Cup is his big chance to impress Klopp.

Despite the injury to Benteke I'm really looking forward to this one as I think the kids will really want to impress and won't have the mental baggage of some of the senior players.

Jose Enrique was set to start at left-back, but has not trained for the last few days due to a knock. [James Pearce]

How bad is the knock? Any Instagram pics for us to have some sort of idea?

Gonna be a f**king long day if we don't win.

Sure is bud. Let's get the W.

So could be

Bogdan

Randall
Toure
Skrtel
Moreno

Allen
Brannagan

Ibe
Tex
Lallana

Origi


Good to see the youngsters get a chance.

Allen and Brannagan in midfield together would be a worry for me.

I think it's great that the kids get a go but so far this season they have been prone to making mistakes understandably. Having Allen alongside is likely to offer no protection at all.

I would like to see Enrique again he can actually defend. We need all of our players to get off the lazy arses and starting earning the vast amount of money thet recieve.

So could be

Bogdan

Randall
Toure
Skrtel
Moreno

Allen
Brannagan

Ibe
Tex
Lallana

Origi


Good to see the youngsters get a chance.

Allen and Brannagan in midfield together would be a worry for me.

I think it's great that the kids get a go but so far this season they have been prone to making mistakes understandably. Having Allen alongside is likely to offer no protection at all.

Think if that's the side Brannagan will play further forward and Tex will partner Allen.

How bad is the knock? Any Instagram pics for us to have some sort of idea?

He fell off the bed and injured himself after playing one too many games of Fifa

So could be

Bogdan

Randall
Toure
Skrtel
Moreno

Allen
Brannagan

Ibe
Tex
Lallana

Origi


Good to see the youngsters get a chance.

That's exactly what I had in mind except Firmino for Lallana, for some game time. Ibe-Tex-Firmino behind Origi.

Subs- Migs, Sakho, Clyne, Can, Lucas, Lallana, Sinclair

Having Allen alongside is likely to offer no protection at all.

Although it could make him look world class in comparison.

Gone for a 2  1 win in the game  tonight, but who the f**k in going to score ?

After hearing Benteke is injured and that we are expected to make changes:

Bogdan

Randall
Toure (c)
Lovren
Moreno

Brannagan
Allen
Emre Can

Ibe
Teixeira

Origi

Subs: Fulton; Cleary, Enrique; Lucas; Coutinho, Firmino; Sinclair.


2-0 to us!

Its good and very important to give the young lads a chance
but honestly we ALL won't like it if we finished like arsenal did yesterday,play 1, 2 maybe 3 at the same could do
maybe I am saying this cause I saw yesterday's  game , where wenger put in 8/9 youngsters  , and saw what happened
on the other hand we have to give the kids their chances, and with the chavs game in 4 days in mind, and with all the injuries  we have some young lads have to be in the squad today


YNWA

Just need a win

Seen this on another site.... the only player Liverpool have ever bought off Bournemouth... Jamie Redknapp

I think we will win comfortably enough tonight ... 5-3 on penalties

Seen this on another site.... the only player Liverpool have ever bought off Bournemouth... Jamie Redknapp

I think we will win comfortably enough tonight ... 5-3 on penalties

Hahahaha RAOTL then!!

After 3 successive draws will Klopp stay with a full strength side or choose to rotate?

I'm torn between that but I can see this side starting:

* Milner is suspended after his booking vs Southampton

Mignolet

Clyne
Skrtel
Sakho
Moreno

Allen
Lucas (c)
Emre Can

Firmino
Ibe

Benteke

Subs: Bogdan; Randall, Toure; Brannagan; Coutinho, Teixeira; Origi.

Doubt Sturridge will be fit enough to make the squad.

Let's go lads, 3-0 to us!

I just read somewhere that Benteke is not fit.
Any truth in that???
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11669/10046431/liverpool-without-christian-benteke-for-clash-with-bournemouth

Liverpool haven't been in the greatest of forms recently, but they will be looking at this game thinking it is an easy one. Bournemouth are coming of an awful run and will be well up for this fixture as they need to bounce back to gain a bit of confidence to take into the league. I can see Bournemouth winning this one, down to the way Liverpool may go into the game, and how much Eddie Howe and his men will want to put a show on for their travelling fans.

I just read somewhere that Benteke is not fit.
Any truth in that???
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11669/10046431/liverpool-without-christian-benteke-for-clash-with-bournemouth

Where've you been?

I'd be tempted to play firmino up front now with a license to roam. I haven't given up on Origi yet - it might be good to play him out wide or behind the striker to see what he can do when he actually sees some of the ball.

Gutted Benteke being out, he would have bagged one of two for sure, still think we will still win, I'd be inclined to go out strong, with Chavs and gooners out, we have a real chance to grab some tin, I'd go with this.......

                                    Bogdan
                 Randall   Skrtel  Sakho   Moreno
                           Lucas (c)  Emre Can
                       Ibe      Texiera    Lallana
                                    Origi

       Bench;  Migs, Toure, Clyne, Coutinho , Firmino, Branagan, Sinclair


Strong starting X1 with a good back up, if things go well we can blood Branagan & Sinclair at some point maybe after a hour, if not we have the option of bringing on Coutinho and Firmino or both, it might not be the most popular of  cups to win but it's silverware at the end of the day, something we exist for, if we're in it we may as well go all out to win it,

It won't be easy Howe will have his team well organised and will be dangerous, I'm going for a 2-1 win, Lallana & Origi with the goody goody gum drops.

C'Mon Redmen !



YNWA

2-0

Small steps for progress .

3-1 to us, probably see us more fluid in attack too.

Its good and very important to give the young lads a chance
but honestly we ALL won't like it if we finished like arsenal did yesterday,play 1, 2 maybe 3 at the same could do
maybe I am saying this cause I saw yesterday's  game , where wenger put in 8/9 youngsters  , and saw what happened
on the other hand we have to give the kids their chances, and with the chavs game in 4 days in mind, and with all the injuries  we have some young lads have to be in the squad today


YNWA

8 or 9 youngsters? Are you sure? Are you absolutely certain you saw this game?

33 Cech
02 Debuchy Booked
21 Chambers
04 Mertesacker
03 Gibbs
20 Flamini
47 Kamara (Bielik - 60' )
28 Campbell Booked
15 Oxlade-Chamberlain (Walcott - 5' )
45 Iwobi
12 Giroud

This will be another turgid affair, what with us having absolutely no flair players (on fiorm anyway)

Would take any kind of progress to buy us time until Jürgen can sort this F***ing dire, injury prone squad of ours

This will be another turgid affair, what with us having absolutely no flair players (on fiorm anyway)

Would take any kind of progress to buy us time until Jürgen can sort this f**king dire, injury prone squad of ours

So tell me, of which turgid, dire injury prone team would you rather watch, Brendan's or Jürgen's, I'd be intrigued to find out, me, I'm rather enjoying watching Jürgen slowly implement his ideas to his charges and thus far it's not been to shabby,
for what he has left to work with we've not been too bad considering,

I'm no expert but I'm guessing your one of those who thinks by waving a magic wand Jürgen will have us challenging for the title come the end of November,

We have 28 league games left, plus the cups and Europa, plenty for us to get our teeth into, be patient man ffs.



YNWA

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