Philippe Coutinho (Barcelona)

Hope Klopp will today again tell us that Cou won't be sold at any price.

Neymar 'texting Philippe Coutinho' to urge Liverpool star to snub Barcelona and wait for PSG move

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/neymar-messaging-philippe-coutinho-urge-10904301

 

Neymar 'texting Philippe Coutinho' to urge Liverpool star to snub Barcelona and wait for PSG move

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/neymar-messaging-philippe-coutinho-urge-10904301

 

Wow!! Unbelievable if true

Wow!! Unbelievable if true

Neymar has been tapping up Coutinho for years, probably the reason we have not reported it to Uefa was to not upset Coutinho. If Coutinho went Liverpool could very much report Neymar to Uefa. I don't think it's a PSG or Barca tapping up claim... I'm not entirely sure what player sanctions are in tapping up. Said it before, Neymar is an utter ****. He thinks he's bigger than Barca and rules don't apply to him.

Neymar has been tapping up Coutinho for years, probably the reason we have not reported it to Uefa was to not upset Coutinho. If Coutinho went Liverpool could very much report Neymar to Uefa. I don't think it's a PSG or Barca tapping up claim... I'm not entirely sure what player sanctions are in tapping up. Said it before, Neymar is an utter ****. He thinks he's bigger than Barca and rules don't apply to him. Barca should hold firm and make him sort his tax stuff out.

Imagine sweet FA Riba, what stops you telling a mate to come and work for your firm. If it's not in an official capacity then really it's a friend advising a friend, nothing can be done or should be done.

Imagine sweet FA Riba, what stops you telling a mate to come and work for your firm. If it's not in an official capacity then really it's a friend advising a friend, nothing can be done or should be done.

you are comparing normal job to football rules. Uefa have a set of rules. tapping up by clubs, players, board members or agents is prohibited. If your friend sent you a text,  there is no such rules to punish that.

If your friend sent you a text,  there is no such rules to punish that.

Exactly, so you've answered your own question. As much as it frustrates us, Neymar should be free to tell his friend whatever he likes, if we start sanctioning stuff like that then we're starting to encroach on personal life and that shouldn't be encouraged.

Neymar 'texting Philippe Coutinho' to urge Liverpool star to snub Barcelona and wait for PSG move

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/neymar-messaging-philippe-coutinho-urge-10904301

 

Saw the same and pressed for link - the sh*t rag is going with the same tale, gotta be sh*te.

Exactly, so you've answered your own question. As much as it frustrates us, Neymar should be free to tell his friend whatever he likes, if we start sanctioning stuff like that then we're starting to encroach on personal life and that shouldn't be encouraged.

not going to argue

Any person subject to the FIFA Statutes and regulations (club officials,
players’ agents, players, etc.) who acts in a manner designed to induce
a breach of contract between a professional and a club in order to
facilitate the transfer of the player shall be sanctioned.

PDF doc from Fifa. Apologies when I said Uefa.

https://www.fifa.com/mm/document/affederation/administration/regulations_on_the_status_and_transfer_of_players_en_33410.pdf

Like I said, whilst Coutinho is here we shouldn't do anything that could upset him. If he goes, I'd report Neymar instantly.

Got a bad feeling he's on his way.

Worried we will hold out for a massive sum, sell him late in the window and get no replacement in.

We need to get to work now on getting our own targets in and have a contingency in place if Cou does go.

Exactly, so you've answered your own question. As much as it frustrates us, Neymar should be free to tell his friend whatever he likes, if we start sanctioning stuff like that then we're starting to encroach on personal life and that shouldn't be encouraged.

Is correct Luke, proof of which is the sh*t rag carrying the none-story.

Exactly, so you've answered your own question. As much as it frustrates us, Neymar should be free to tell his friend whatever he likes, if we start sanctioning stuff like that then we're starting to encroach on personal life and that shouldn't be encouraged.

Yes but in that case what is the difference between a player tapping up another player and a club doing it? To extend the analogy to the normal workplace, should headhunters and agents be made illegal as they effectively tap you up to move jobs?

Interesting situation now with the Neymar thing.

Barca probably won't be able to afford Coutinho until they sell Neymar but does Neymar moving on make Barca less inviting for Phil?

Wouldn't surprise me if we try and hold firm this summer and then PSG come in with a ridiculous bid next year.

Yes but in that case what is the difference between a player tapping up another player and a club doing it? To extend the analogy to the normal workplace, should headhunters and agents be made illegal as they effectively tap you up to move jobs?

difference is player tapping up another player is prohibited by fifa. In general employment not covered by fifa it is not a rule. It is foolish to compare a sports job covered by a sports governing body to a job such as a computer programmer or a milkman etc... Maybe a dairy farm could mention his delivery accuracy ans milk kart pace etc... Try and claim he was world class   

Got a bad feeling he's on his way.

Worried we will hold out for a massive sum, sell him late in the window and get no replacement in.

We need to get to work now on getting our own targets in and have a contingency in place if Cou does go.

It wouldn't be any good to LFC but paradoxically it would dovetail with our owner's false economies agenda, as time presses on it is ominously looking as though this could be the case.

difference is player tapping up another player is prohibited by fifa. In general employment not covered by fifa it is not a rule. It is foolish to compare a sports job covered by a sports governing body to a job such as a computer programmer or a milkman etc... Maybe a dairy farm could mention his delivery accuracy ans milk kart pace etc... Try and claim he was world class 

The player is under contract, that is to say he is under a legal obligation to adhere to said contract for the period specified.
By mutual agreement the contract can be terminated with recompense to the club holding the contract.
Undeclared negotiation or tapping up would seek to preclude the owning club, unethical and possibly illegal conduct.

There lies the difference between milkmen and multi-millionaire footballers.

difference is player tapping up another player is prohibited by fifa. In general employment not covered by fifa it is not a rule. It is foolish to compare a sports job covered by a sports governing body to a job such as a computer programmer or a milkman etc... Maybe a dairy farm could mention his delivery accuracy ans milk kart pace etc... Try and claim he was world class   

Ok I was actually agreeing with you on this but never mind, you strike me as the kind of person who would argue wit his own shadow!

Got a bad feeling he's on his way.

Worried we will hold out for a massive sum, sell him late in the window and get no replacement in.

We need to get to work now on getting our own targets in and have a contingency in place if Cou does go.

Yeah give us £195m. Can't argue against that figure, even though at least one of us will hold out for £1,950m. £££££

If Neymar goes as looks more and more likely I reckon FSG sell for around £120 million. Barca will be desperate, Coutinho is no doubt desperate to go (imo) and FSG wouldn't say no at that price. Only way we keep him is if Neymar stays at Barca.

Why is everyone assuming that Couts is desperate to go to Barca, I'm not even convinced he'd be an automatic starter there.

Imagine sweet FA Riba, what stops you telling a mate to come and work for your firm. If it's not in an official capacity then really it's a friend advising a friend, nothing can be done or should be done.

If I was Jürgen I'd be in the ear of Firmino telling him to have a word with Phil to reassure him as in every pic we see Phil and Bobby look like mates.

Why is everyone assuming that Couts is desperate to go to Barca, I'm not even convinced he'd be an automatic starter there.

He'd be a starter as replacement for Neymar.

Phil left, Suarez centre, Messi right!!

Why is everyone assuming that Couts is desperate to go to Barca, I'm not even convinced he'd be an automatic starter there.

It's the Mecca for every South American player mate, of course he wants the move. He might have been happy at LFC but have no doubt his head is massively turned right now. He's a class act so I don't think he will be throwing any tantrums because it's not his way but as and when they come in with a bigger offer (I don't think they will offer silly money until Neymar is on his way) I think that he will be asking the club to let him go.

Also, as promising as things look at times at LFC under Klopp we're not exactly uprooting trees with our transfer business this summer and our squad struggled at times to cope with domestic competition last season, let alone Champions League footy. We look way too light for my liking,  would have hoped to have seen another 3-4 players in by now rather than having to rely on players like Studge and Henderson coming back from long term injuries and several unproven players to man the bench. At Barca he is guaranteed a title challenge and a last eight spot (as a minimum) in the Champions League. That's the reality of it.

As for him starting in the Barca team, yeah maybe he would have struggled a bit had he played there a season or two ago but he has improved considerably in the last 18 months, he's far more consistent, he's stronger, he's influencing games more and his set pieces have come on a mile. He'd start in most sides imho.

It would be a massive shame if he went because I'm sure he is just about to have his best season. I'd love to see him playing in that central midfield role, I didn't realise just how good a passer of a football he was from that position. I personally think that's where Barca see him playing if they get him (as a replacement for Iniesta). He could also play off the left as HR has stated above.