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      Nabil Fekir (Lyon)

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      Re: Nabil Fekir (Lyon)
      Reply #575: Jun 10, 2018 11:58:48 am
      i wonder if the lad might put in transfer request now
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      Reply #576: Jun 10, 2018 12:13:15 pm
      i wonder if the lad might put in transfer request now

      Will that change anything though?

      Unless we (or somebody else) pay the fee that Lyon want then he's going nowhere
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      Reply #577: Jun 10, 2018 12:22:03 pm
      I have a feeling we are going to wait and see how Fekir performs in the WC while further investigating his knee and looking at potential alternatives.

      Lyon are acting the magots but they will 100% sell to us at some point this Summer if we bid again.
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      Re: Nabil Fekir (Lyon)
      Reply #578: Jun 10, 2018 01:09:15 pm
      Mad one.

      Nabil Fekir’s £53m move from Lyons to Liverpool called off


      Paul Joyce Northern Football Correspondent

      June 9 2018, 12:01am, The Times

      Final hurdle: Fekir recorded interviews with Liverpool but his switch has been called off

      Lyon dramatically called off Nabil Fekir’s £53m transfer to Liverpool last night. The Ligue 1 club released a statement saying they had put an end to negotiations at 7pm and would be able to ‘count on the presence’ of their captain for next season’s Champions League campaign. ‘Transfer negotiations with Liverpool and Nabil Fekir have not succeeded and Olympique Lyonnais has decided to put an end to this negotiation tonight,’ it read.

      The midfielder, 24, looked set to become Liverpool’s third major signing of the summer on Friday but a complication with his medical provided a hitch after a deal was agreed between the clubs. Personal terms with the France international had also been agreed.

      It is believed Liverpool wanted to restructure the deal in light of Fekir’s medical, but the French club, and their combative president, Jean-Michel Aulas, baulked at this.

      The transfer negotiation could resume, but it is likely this will not happen now until after the World Cup finals.

      The Times

      Here we go, basically confirms what I had been suspecting. Highly unprofessional crap whatever the way you want to look at it.

      If we consider that we wanted to change the deal after we agreed one then it's straight up unprofessional. If we consider that we were willing to take the risk of having him despite a failed or partly failed medical in exchange of a lower fee then it's unprofessional and irresponsible considering we could've been stuck with a Sturridge situation.

      Failed or partly failed medical.....simple, you announce the medical has been failed and you end talks.

      What is this? This is the type of stuff that makes us look so bad.
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      Reply #579: Jun 10, 2018 01:14:09 pm
      Here we go, basically confirms what I had been suspecting. Highly unprofessional crap whatever the way you want to look at it.

      If we consider that we wanted to change the deal after we agreed one then it's straight up unprofessional. If we consider that we were willing to take the risk of having him despite a failed or partly failed medical in exchange of a lower fee then it's unprofessional and irresponsible considering we could've been stuck with a Sturridge situation...

      Unless, like I said before, you want to insure against his injury risk, and you want the cost of that factored into his price. Which would be quite a reasonable thing to want.
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      Reply #580: Jun 10, 2018 01:24:51 pm
      It literally makes no sense to me at all, if we have doubts over his injuries then you walk away, you don't renegotiate. This sounds like that Lyon chairman being a tw*t again and spreading false rumours. Bottom line if the lad wants to come to us then it will happen.

      apparently that is what happened. It is Lyon who came back and tried to renegotiate.


      check out the Echo today. They have a different take.

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      Reply #581: Jun 10, 2018 01:28:05 pm
      Did we not have a similiar situation - re a medical - with Loic Remy a few years back?
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      Reply #582: Jun 10, 2018 01:49:00 pm
      Why does weird transfer sh*t like this only happen to Liverpool?!
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      Reply #583: Jun 10, 2018 01:57:06 pm
      If he was one of Jürgen's primary targets, will he wait until he can get him (like VanDijk), or go for plan B?
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      Reply #584: Jun 10, 2018 01:58:18 pm
      Did we not have a similiar situation - re a medical - with Loic Remy a few years back?

      Yeah and then he went and passed a Chelsea medical a few days later.
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      Reply #585: Jun 10, 2018 01:59:45 pm
      Paul Joyce is only regurgitating what has been rumoured over the past days. Nothing new. Nothing credible. Another man's guess on what has happened.

      Nothing to see here. Fekir will come.
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      Reply #586: Jun 10, 2018 02:02:14 pm
      Yeah and then he went and passed a Chelsea medical a few days later.

      And now is at getafe
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      Reply #587: Jun 10, 2018 02:03:10 pm
      apparently that is what happened. It is Lyon who came back and tried to renegotiate.


      check out the Echo today. They have a different take.

      Surely once you've agreed a fee and it's gone as far as the player taking a medical and doing interviews at his new club, the selling club can't back out?

      They'd be open to all kinds of court action surely?

      Can't see it being Lyon re negotiating the fee personally.
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      Reply #588: Jun 10, 2018 02:09:33 pm
      Here we go, basically confirms what I had been suspecting. Highly unprofessional crap whatever the way you want to look at it.

      If we consider that we wanted to change the deal after we agreed one then it's straight up unprofessional. If we consider that we were willing to take the risk of having him despite a failed or partly failed medical in exchange of a lower fee then it's unprofessional and irresponsible considering we could've been stuck with a Sturridge situation.

      Failed or partly failed medical.....simple, you announce the medical has been failed and you end talks.

      What is this? This is the type of stuff that makes us look so bad.

      You all need to chill out like Jürgen.

      Enjoy the weather and have a bevvy!!

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      Reply #589: Jun 10, 2018 02:10:06 pm
      Surely once you've agreed a fee and it's gone as far as the player taking a medical and doing interviews at his new club, the selling club can't back out?

      They'd be open to all kinds of court action surely?

      Can't see it being Lyon re negotiating the fee personally.

      To use a phrase which you are all probably sick of "Nothing is agreed until everything is agreed" ;-)
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      Reply #590: Jun 10, 2018 02:24:35 pm

      Not sure how that is in anyway relevant.

      We wanted him then, not now. Used his heart problems as a convenient excuse to drop him like a hot potato while we were in America once we had been made aware of the availability of that shirt selling machine that was Mario Balotelli.

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      Reply #591: Jun 10, 2018 02:27:29 pm
      Lyon are playing a risky game as well they could be holding on to player who they could have received a healthy cashpot for who A- Could easily play the game and not give 100%
      B- If the injury does come back be left with a player no resale value

      I've got a feeling Aulas using WC to get favourable price

      Either way be very surprised if this is dead in water
      Not buying this.

      Paying a bit less does not make this player's knee better or worse, it comes down to whether you think his knee is something you can work with or not. Lyon seem to have called the bluff and ended negotiations.

      That said, this is not the 80's or the early 90's when a ligament injury meant an end to a career or close to it. There are so many examples of players that have suffered a knee ligament injury or ankle ligament and have come back to play. For Fekir, this is an injury that happened in the 2015/16 season, and while he has had some issues, they have mainly been impact injuries as opposed to his knee simply giving way.

      If Lyon did not want to sell before the World Cup, then they would have simply delayed negotiations, but everything points to discussions having taken place, the player having being allowed to talk to the club and got to a point where he  had a medical. This is not something that happens if a team is unwilling to sell.
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      Reply #592: Jun 10, 2018 02:39:11 pm
      From the sounds of it. Liverpool would say something like, 53 million in 3 installments over 3 years. If he has a long knee problem, the relevant installment is halved.

      Lyon: Go whistle.

      Liverpool: Whistling back to Anfield.

      Rivals:  :lmao: :roll:

      Us:  :f_wah:
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      Reply #593: Jun 10, 2018 02:47:33 pm
      The Lyon president is apparently known as a very hard negotiator, in fact I heard him described as the French Daniel Levy. I don’t want us to get ripped off, if our medical experts have concerns then we are right to cool it until there is clarity. Imagine if we just said , it’s OK, then he breaks down and is out for half a season, the fume on here would be monumental!
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      Reply #594: Jun 10, 2018 03:15:16 pm
      From the sounds of it. Liverpool would say something like, 53 million in 3 installments over 3 years. If he has a long knee problem, the relevant installment is halved.

      Lyon: Go whistle.

      Liverpool: Whistling back to Anfield.

      Rivals:  :lmao: :roll:

      Us:  :f_wah:

      So better just to sign him then after the medical shows there might be issues, so as not to suffer any ridicule.
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      Reply #595: Jun 10, 2018 03:35:31 pm
      Still don’t think it’s medical related. We signed Ox who’s had a lot of problems, over the last 2 seasons Fekir has missed 10 games. That’s less than Lemar, Coutinho, Lovren, Hendo and Lallana etc. If there were really problems then he’d have missed more games IMO.

      Makes me wonder why Klopp appears to be certain Lallana has a future with us given his injury record, same with Hendo. Another reason why the medical things just doesn’t sit right with me, why let a possible scenario stop you signing a player when his injury record is far better than players that Klopp sees as important to us.

      You can sign any player and he could break his leg in his first game, just the same level of risk with Fekir IMO.

      We’ve also not released a statement. When we ended interest in VVD we done a statement, same with Keita. All the talk is actually coming from Lyon, it’s just Aulas playing games IMO. Someone who’s had the surgery he’s had would have had a flare up or something by now, especially in the amount of games he has played since.
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      Reply #596: Jun 10, 2018 03:45:45 pm
      Why are we always so quick to criticise our club? There’s probably around 8 people in these negotiations yet the majority think we screw it up, who’s to say Lyon and his agents didn’t try to play us? Who’s to say we didn’t just say enough is enough
      After the last few transfers I have total faith in the club bringing in the right players and if the right player is a premium we’ve proved we will pay it
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      Reply #597: Jun 10, 2018 03:53:23 pm
      Not buying this.

      Paying a bit less does not make this player's knee better or worse, it comes down to whether you think his knee is something you can work with or not. Lyon seem to have called the bluff and ended negotiations.

      That said, this is not the 80's or the early 90's when a ligament injury meant an end to a career or close to it. There are so many examples of players that have suffered a knee ligament injury or ankle ligament and have come back to play. For Fekir, this is an injury that happened in the 2015/16 season, and while he has had some issues, they have mainly been impact injuries as opposed to his knee simply giving way.

      If Lyon did not want to sell before the World Cup, then they would have simply delayed negotiations, but everything points to discussions having taken place, the player having being allowed to talk to the club and got to a point where he  had a medical. This is not something that happens if a team is unwilling to sell.

      Yes but the price has somehow been altered to what was agreed initailly so not entirely sure what you are not buying to the points I made.

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