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      Robby The Z
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      Re: Scouting talk
      Reply #2576: May 22, 2023 05:20:13 pm
      Agreed. But klopp was pretty adamant, he was getting annoyed with the journos asking him about kellher leaving.

      A big club will want three proven goalkeepers. Adrian is no Alisson, but he fits the bill of having the experience you want in case of emergency, but not making.waves when he goes most of the season without playing.
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      Reply #2577: May 22, 2023 05:25:55 pm
      Goalkeepers:
      Alisson
      Kelleher*
      Adrian

      Defenders:
      Van Dijk
      Konate
      Matip
      Gomez*
      Phillips*
      Alexander-Arnold*
      Robertson
      Tsimikas

      Midfielders:
      Fabinho
      Thiago
      Henderson*
      Jones
      Keita
      Milner
      Oxlade-Chamberlain*
      Arthur

      Forwards:
      Salah
      Gakpo
      Jota
      Diaz
      Nunez
      Firmino

      U21s: Elliott, Carvalho, Bajcetic, Ramsay, Gordon. (Will count as home grown)

      Base squad of 25 players. At least 5 leaving.
      5 U21 players that will most likely get minutes and eventually count as home grown.
      I think people are worrying too much about whether the club needs to sign a home grown player.
      Even signing 2 midfielders and a CB this summer the squad will be leaner and younger than ever
      with 23 senior players and the 5 U21 players giving a squad of 28.

      * - home grown

      Elliott and Bajcetic are first team players, no longer U21s. Doubt you'll see either for that group next season.
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      Reply #2578: May 22, 2023 08:04:40 pm
      Elliott and Bajcetic are first team players, no longer U21s. Doubt you'll see either for that group next season.

      They're both U21 so don't have to be declared with regard to squad size.
      Which was my point. Having them there means there is no panic for buying home grown,
      even though it seems to be mentioned a lot on certain social media sites.
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      Reply #2579: May 22, 2023 08:09:12 pm
      They're both U21 so don't have to be declared with regard to squad size.
      Which was my point. Having them there means there is no panic for buying home grown,
      even though it seems to be mentioned a lot on certain social media sites.

      Think we will need one HG player though because it then allows us to keep the same level of Non HG players

      But someone might be moving from the non registered ( u21) into HG next season ? Maybe Elliot ?
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      Reply #2580: May 22, 2023 09:39:45 pm
      Think we will need one HG player though because it then allows us to keep the same level of Non HG players

      But someone might be moving from the non registered ( u21) into HG next season ? Maybe Elliot ?
      Jones?
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      Reply #2581: May 22, 2023 09:40:33 pm
      Saw a Ljverpool article where we were linked to Eze. Doubt there's anything to it, but I cam dream, right? :D
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      Reply #2582: May 23, 2023 12:19:59 am
      They're both U21 so don't have to be declared with regard to squad size.
      Which was my point. Having them there means there is no panic for buying home grown,
      even though it seems to be mentioned a lot on certain social media sites.

      I see. Sorry about that.
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      Reply #2583: May 23, 2023 09:45:14 am

      No worries dude.

      Think we will need one HG player though because it then allows us to keep the same level of Non HG players

      But someone might be moving from the non registered ( u21) into HG next season ? Maybe Elliot ?


      Jones is 22 now. Carvalho will be 21 before the season starts so probably him.
      For that reason I can't see Carvalho going anywhere on loan. Would only leave if he's being sold.
      Elliott will hit 21 in April next year.
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      Reply #2584: May 23, 2023 10:29:39 am
      If City are selling Gundogan we need to get involved. He could be another Milner and Gundogan is a Klopp player anyway.
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      Reply #2585: May 23, 2023 10:51:51 am
      If City are selling Gundogan we need to get involved. He could be another Milner and Gundogan is a Klopp player anyway.

      They're not selling him.
      He's out of contract in the summer.
      Along with the likes of:
      Adrien Rabiot
      Konrad Laimer
      Marco Asensio

      Wouldn't be surprised to see us bring in a free transfer.


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      Reply #2586: May 23, 2023 11:00:53 am
      They're not selling him.
      He's out of contract in the summer.
      Along with the likes of:
      Adrien Rabiot
      Konrad Laimer
      Marco Asensio

      Wouldn't be surprised to see us bring in a free transfer.




      yup. nowt wrong with a good free transfer.
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      Reply #2587: May 23, 2023 06:24:03 pm
      Apparently wolves need to sell to
      Meet ffp or it will be breached and their situation is bad, in terms of how bad, looks like they won’t be able to buy any players and need about 60m worth of sales is what balague suggested

      I wouldn’t mind Nunes or nevez, think nevez easily has the quality to play for even city and I know barce seem interested but we could strike early and I don’t think he would cost more than 30m

      Nunes has a lot of raw potential and would be perfect imo
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      Reply #2588: May 23, 2023 06:29:54 pm
      we really shouldnt be getting involved in anything other than Grade A CL players no short cuts no potential we need starters. We can never be left short of experienced players in midfield ever again
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      Reply #2589: May 23, 2023 06:48:09 pm
      Apparently wolves need to sell to
      Meet ffp or it will be breached and their situation is bad, in terms of how bad, looks like they won’t be able to buy any players and need about 60m worth of sales is what balague suggested

      I wouldn’t mind Nunes or nevez, think nevez easily has the quality to play for even city and I know barce seem interested but we could strike early and I don’t think he would cost more than 30m

      Nunes has a lot of raw potential and would be perfect imo

      Neither inspire me tbh. I don't think they are bad players - technically they are quite accomplished - but we need more energy to rejuvenate us. If as expected we go for Mac Allister, who works very hard but is short and not the quickest, I would say the other guy should be more physically imposing and can get about a bit more, otherwise we will be quite lightweight in an area that's crucial to how we play.
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      Reply #2590: May 23, 2023 08:35:33 pm
      They're not selling him.
      He's out of contract in the summer.
      Along with the likes of:
      Adrien Rabiot
      Konrad Laimer
      Marco Asensio

      Wouldn't be surprised to see us bring in a free transfer.
      Laimer is going to Bayern. Rab may be a solid move on the free. Would play immediately. Kamada is another interesting free transfer.

      New names I've seen thrown around, per the internet our scouts went to Leipzig to see Szoboszali. Wierd, as he's a attacking mid. Also been seeing things about Neves. Neves can give you most of what Thiago can give you and he's dependable. Bit slow though.
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      Reply #2591: May 24, 2023 11:01:03 am
      https://www.talkaloadofbull.com/en-gb/lists/romeo-lavia-premier-league-biggest-clubs-queuing-sign-40m-southampton-teenager/bltdd50f8e698a2e42d

      40 million for a kid who just had one decent season is madness. I'd rather go for Ugarte who much more proven then pay PL inflated fees
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      Reply #2592: May 24, 2023 11:04:45 am
      ÂŁ85m for Mount? Give me Szoboszlai or Kudus.
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      Reply #2593: May 24, 2023 11:55:51 am
      https://www.talkaloadofbull.com/en-gb/lists/romeo-lavia-premier-league-biggest-clubs-queuing-sign-40m-southampton-teenager/bltdd50f8e698a2e42d

      40 million for a kid who just had one decent season is madness. I'd rather go for Ugarte who much more proven then pay PL inflated fees

      How many “proven” games has Urgarte played in the Prem
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      Reply #2594: May 24, 2023 12:10:47 pm
      How many “proven” games has Urgarte played in the Prem

      Ugarte is more proven and has international games in his belt, he is exactly what we need. Lavia is not signing that goes straight to our starting 11 and ÂŁ40 million is too much for a kid.
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      Reply #2595: May 24, 2023 12:12:00 pm
      Neither inspire me tbh. I don't think they are bad players - technically they are quite accomplished - but we need more energy to rejuvenate us. If as expected we go for Mac Allister, who works very hard but is short and not the quickest, I would say the other guy should be more physically imposing and can get about a bit more, otherwise we will be quite lightweight in an area that's crucial to how we play.

      Hard working and always fit is the no.1 attributes we need in MF.
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      Reply #2596: May 24, 2023 12:12:41 pm
      Kounde wants to leave Barcelona he can play both CB, RB. He would be a perfect signing for us, a player that can rotate between fullback and CB giving Trent the freedom to do what he wants.
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      Reply #2597: May 24, 2023 12:19:34 pm
      ÂŁ85m for Mount? Give me Szoboszlai or Kudus.

      Absolutely no chance they get that for someone in last year of contract and who is hardly ripping it up . Be 50 m max
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      Reply #2598: May 24, 2023 12:39:45 pm
      Absolutely no chance they get that for someone in last year of contract and who is hardly ripping it up . Be 50 m max

      depends if its a bidding war.

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