UEFA to ask for 'independent' report into Champions League Final

Its just greedy corporations, brexshite, Ukraine war, Covid and generally incompetent governments. A major clusterfuk of things that have combined over the past few years.

Elon Musk is a good weather vain and he thinks things are going to go tits up later this year and it seems this is the course we are plotting yet these super rich are getting richer even during Covid their wealth increased significantly things have to change and if they drive people to financial ruin they may get a nasty shock.

It is patently obvious why the French do nothing to deter boatloads of young male immigrants from crossing the channel!

It is patently obvious why the French do nothing to deter boatloads of young male immigrants from crossing the channel!

I find the French irksome

I find the French irksome

Got to agree the French are a pain in the F***ing arse.

Got to agree the French are a pain in the f**king arse.

do you have to lower the tone mate. but yes they are just F***ing whoppas.

I find the French irksome

Even the French hate the French

I am fully aware of why the pigs stood by you clown. I haven't backed the pigs so stop talking f**king sh*t.

The migrants were robbing the supporters. The police didn't want to attack and arrest the migrants in case they were called racists. That is why they attacked the Liverpool supporters.

It's why thousands of children have been raped across the United Kingdom and never get arrested, The pigs don't want to be called racists. There is also the fact that a vast majority of the hierarchy in this country and others are paedophiles.

Everything is a show, the media don't want to show people the truth. Most people know it but are too scared to do anything about it.

If the people at the top are corrupt, there will never be true justice.

Everything with you is brought back to race and migrants. As if the reason they acted that way is because of their immigration status or race and not because they are just scummy individuals taking advantage of a chaotic situation. 

Every post I read from you just reminds me of the comment you made about how if a white man and a black man were drowning you would naturally save the white man. Strange, bizarre gammon behaviour and the sad part is you are so far down the rabbit hole you can’t even see another perspective.

Honestly wouldn't say it was isolated incidents. RM fans suffered outside after the game just the same as us.

But they did get into the ground. Weren’t accused of forging tickets on an industrial scale. They weren't tear gassed or pepper sprayed.

They may have been left unprotected from the local thugs after the game. That was due to a lack of policing.
I didn’t hear anything about them being assaulted by the police, or them being locked out of gates. Etc etc.

Got to agree the French are a pain in the f**king arse.

Wait, is it ok to dislike the French on a grand scale?

The anti French stuff is .. Jesus.. choose your own negative adjective. Let's separate French people from French authorities.

Is Hillsborough an exclusive "English" problem? Are our authorities perversly and uniquely worse than other countries? Of course not, power works the same way universally, or at least along very familiar tram lines.

the French at it again in Paris on Friday V Denmark apparently .
Cant wait to see the "Transparency" of the report

Think the "independent" investigation will be a token gesture. Uefa will make some ambiguous statement saying " badly organised" ...blah blah. Won't really blame the French outright, just be couched in diplomatic language.

Nobody will be under oath or anything. Oudea-Castera and Darmanin will get away with it. Macron might pipe up but again  will be ambiguous.

It will leave a sour taste in the mouth and will have lasting damage to our relations with French football. The French don't give a toss. There may be trouble ahead.

Wait, is it ok to dislike the French on a grand scale?

The vast majority of people in the UK dislike the French, rather enormous figures that are generally accepted.

Think the "independent" investigation will be a token gesture. Uefa will make some ambiguous statement saying " badly organised" ...blah blah. Won't really blame the French outright, just be couched in diplomatic language.

Nobody will be under oath or anything. Oudea-Castera and Darmanin will get away with it. Macron might pipe up but again  will be ambiguous.

It will leave a sour taste in the mouth and will have lasting damage to our relations with French football. The French don't give a toss. There may be trouble ahead.

The French will never admit wrong doing regardless of the evidence put before them

In a way I am glad its our club for the sake of football because we know what is coming we know how the blame game works and we are ready for it and so are the people who were there and had to deal with it they will prove to be incredible witnesses.
The outcome however will be no change in ticket policy and no change in French policing English football fans.

at least the addiction to cell phones provides evidence that we didnt have in'89 ....who will punish parisian police?  and we all know UEFA now are the problem, at the core, of this & Heysell too, as the FA were in '89   BUT  if the UK govt had quickly & PUBLICly punished the 1989 MURDERERS i doubt if last weekend would have happened!

at least the addiction to cell phones provides evidence that we didnt have in'89 ....who will punish parisian police?  and we all know UEFA now are the problem, at the core, of this & Heysell too, as the FA were in '89   BUT  if the UK govt had quickly & PUBLICly punished the 1989 MURDERERS i doubt if last weekend would have happened!

 

http://www.eurocupshistory.com/match/history_land/277-FRA/liverpool_fc_against_french_clubs

Well don't think 1989 had all that much to do with it. Might've been City fans wrecking their own pitch. Think it was just plain French resentment over Brexit. Shambolic preparations, petty prejudice, aggressive thugish heavy handed illegal policing, couldn't care less French arrogance...oh and The Speaker of the House of Commons condemning LFC fans for booing during National Anthem might've influenced them as well.

Johnson didn't jump on it. Just calls for an investigation but he does that if his tea has gone cold.

But they did get into the ground. Weren’t accused of forging tickets on an industrial scale. They weren't tear gassed or pepper sprayed.

They may have been left unprotected from the local thugs after the game. That was due to a lack of policing.
I didn’t hear anything about them being assaulted by the police, or them being locked out of gates. Etc etc.

They had female fans sexually assaulted.

It's not a F***ing contest!!

The anti French stuff is .. Jesus.. choose your own negative adjective. Let's separate French people from French authorities.

Is Hillsborough an exclusive "English" problem? Are our authorities perversly and uniquely worse than other countries? Of course not, power works the same way universally, or at least along very familiar tram lines.

It's most of the French who are backing us. The French people and media know exactly who we're dealing with. What the F**k support have we got from British politicians. A bit of a comment from Dorries. Starmer has been F***ing quiet as, as if Labour won't touch with a barge pole in favour of not upsetting Macron.

at least the addiction to cell phones provides evidence that we didnt have in'89 ....who will punish parisian police?  and we all know UEFA now are the problem, at the core, of this & Heysell too, as the FA were in '89   BUT  if the UK govt had quickly & PUBLICly punished the 1989 MURDERERS i doubt if last weekend would have happened!

Well that was never going to happen seeing as Thatcher owed her shock troops for what they did at Orgeave.

You're chatting sh*t trying to link Hillsborough. Seeing as the French police their football matches a lot differently to British police.

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slagging of the French is just something that has occurred for centuries and in turn they do the same its a bit like how you can slag off friend in a certain way which you wouldnt do to a stranger . We all know that it is quite comforting to note that its not just us who has awful Politicians.
Many French people and press have spoken out as you cant hide the truth al though many will try

It's not easy just letting the French nation as a whole off with this, I am so disgusted at the treatment of our fans. As someone who never called French people frogs or thinking that way. I had respect and a curiosity about the country, so many good things going for it but I can't forgive this. It's not all the people there who wanted Liverpool fans (English people to them) treated so horribly but if the government and police have such contempt for people from England then who from here would go there knowing that?
 The result of the match has fallen into the not really arsed category now considering what people from around the world as Liverpool fans went there to endure, they will be traumatised and most of them wouldn't of cared what result happened considering getting into the stadium and getting home safely.
  They ruined the best football cup in the world. I detest the arrogant scum laden society they live in and all those who endangered fans of both clubs. Many Liverpool fans wouldn't have even been from England so I'm not going all Ingurland, even though I can't stand that dismissive ridicule of people from here either, I used it so the politically correct brigade don't burp on their farleys rusk with utopian ideals and chime in from their safe havens while innocent football fans were targeted, intimidated and provoked to start trouble simply because they were from England.
 France is a country I now never want to visit ever, don't care if it was a rough region, people ignoring the migrants in fear of being called racist, how weak and how ignorant has everyone become? It's just not acceptable for a European country to get away with this if you think this is a civilized continent.
  Someone will mention brexit, why would you want to be brothers or sisters with a country that treats us here and all our fans from around the world like that?

Debate in the House of Commons now. Liverpool fans generally being applauded for their good behaviour. Some MP's quoting instances of LFC fans being robbed and assaulted. Vast majority of speakers coming from the Labour benches. Tories probably plotting to get rid of Billy Liar.

Hoyle closed the debate saying the House will get a statement when Uefa complete their "investigation".