VOTE: 39 Games and Overseas Matches for Premiership?

^^^ A good point. I'm torn on this tbh. I know its just a way to make money and show boat the clubs but some local fans, as tough as it will be, have to understand that there are some abroad who just cant afford to fly over/have other commitments keeping them from travelling.

This wont be the last game of the season, absolutely no chance of that happening. One thing they could do is like what i said before, play it in the international break, but they could also extend the league one more week and have a fortnight just for the one match leaving a week and abit after to train and rest for their next match back in England.

This would seal the deal on the league being purely about money but for someone in my position, its hard to say no to it in all honesty.

Let me have my say, being a BPL fan from Asia. I voted a big NO. Of course I would enjoy being able to watch the Reds, but where would the magic be if it is played outside of Anfield? Fans, particularly from Asia are more bothered at taking pictures of their Beckhams, Torreses rather than cheering their team, creating the same atmosphere as it is back in the UK. English teams have made their way to our country, last pre-season Chelsea made it to Malaysia and the tickets were super-inflated an my mate who is a die-hard Chelsea fan couldn't make it because he couldn't afford the tickets. Leaving the match to be watched by rich brats who don't even know a proper Chelsea chant. Not saying there's anything to chant about for a team with no history.

There's no doubt about it, it's all about commercialism and profit, of course tickets are going to be expensive. I have done a bit of description of glory-hunting fans on this side of the world are like in a thread on glory hunting fans, and these are the people who are going to attend the matches. It's going to spoil the true footballing atmosphere that is experienced back in England.

It is another money making scheme from the knobhead known as Richard Scudamore,i think it totally devalues the title race,what if Liverpool can win the title on that last game,it is going to piss the players off and the fans.
I know it is good for our overseas fans to see the Reds in action but we play enough games pre season away from Anfield.

Let me have my say, being a BPL fan from Asia. I voted a big NO. Of course I would enjoy being able to watch the Reds, but where would the magic be if it is played outside of Anfield? Fans, particularly from Asia are more bothered at taking pictures of their Beckhams, Torreses rather than cheering their team, creating the same atmosphere as it is back in the UK. English teams have made their way to our country, last pre-season Chelsea made it to Malaysia and the tickets were super-inflated an my mate who is a die-hard Chelsea fan couldn't make it because he couldn't afford the tickets. Leaving the match to be watched by rich brats who don't even know a proper Chelsea chant. Not saying there's anything to chant about for a team with no history.

There's no doubt about it, it's all about commercialism and profit, of course tickets are going to be expensive. I have done a bit of description of glory-hunting fans on this side of the world are like in a thread on glory hunting fans, and these are the people who are going to attend the matches. It's going to spoil the true footballing atmosphere that is experienced back in England.

Excellent post Darth Joe!

Looks like this has been blown out the water according to the news, they say that the Pre-season friendlies will include the match to be played abroad.  So basically, nothing's changed has it ??    :

Let me have my say, being a BPL fan from Asia. I voted a big NO. Of course I would enjoy being able to watch the Reds, but where would the magic be if it is played outside of Anfield? Fans, particularly from Asia are more bothered at taking pictures of their Beckhams, Torreses rather than cheering their team, creating the same atmosphere as it is back in the UK. English teams have made their way to our country, last pre-season Chelsea made it to Malaysia and the tickets were super-inflated an my mate who is a die-hard Chelsea fan couldn't make it because he couldn't afford the tickets. Leaving the match to be watched by rich brats who don't even know a proper Chelsea chant. Not saying there's anything to chant about for a team with no history.

There's no doubt about it, it's all about commercialism and profit, of course tickets are going to be expensive. I have done a bit of description of glory-hunting fans on this side of the world are like in a thread on glory hunting fans, and these are the people who are going to attend the matches. It's going to spoil the true footballing atmosphere that is experienced back in England.

You've got a few great points there and have made me change my mind. Although i still would love to see Liverpool play in the flesh.

Ok, im originally from liverpool and moved to australia 2 years ago. the one thing i miss most is liverpool football club. I miss going to the matches. i miss being down the pub watching the matches with my lfc mates. I would absolutely love to see liverpool play live week in week out. but i would hate for any games to be played outside england.
After being in Oz and seeing some of the AFL matches and the A league, there is nothing the same as the support in anfield. Bigger stadiums like the MCG look boring in comparision (although i have been to a couple of AFL finals matches and they are a little better). I put this down to the history entrenched in the stadium and the fans, something that cannot be emulated anywhere in the world.
Not only that, but when you look at the aussie AFL league, the games arent balanced. you can play one team more than once in a season. while some teams have to play a better team twice. its really unfair. not only that. but no team has thier own stadium here, they can play a home game in the telstra dome one day and then play an away game in the telstra dome the next week! its stupid.
I cant imagine and im sure the players couldnt imagine Liverpool FC without its supporters spurring them on when they are down. We, as the liverpool supporters are the biggest part of the club. Players, managers and owners come and go. but the supporters will always be there, and without it liverpool fc is nothing. To bring matches around the world, unbalance the no of matches in the league and offset the supporter balance would ruin the league and football clubs. If people want to see liverpool in asia, or america, pay us to play an exhibition match in off season, or come to anfield.
I know some posters are looking at the scenario ' what if liverpool win on the last day of the season' and yes thier argument is valid, but i think this issue goes to the heart of what football in a club like liverpool is. And given the inherent nature of liverpool fc i would say we have the most to loose to such changes.
People in Australia call football, (apart from soccer) The World Game..... yeah i agree the games bring nations around the world together, its a universally understood game. But each team lies at the heart of its home. While the big corps may be looking to cash in and exploit the operation of a football club, they are looking at the league, the teams, from the totally opposite point of view than the supporter, who knows what it feels like to cheer thier team on without thinking of the monetary consequences, to be down the albert pub not being able to move for other supporters, walk in the pouring rain behind the celebration bus just in order to thank the liverpool players for winning a cup.
I think the idea of extra matches is a slippery slope. I have no problem with promoting the club in the world and organising matches for others to see, but not on a competetive basis (unless a competition dedicated for this purpose is made).
Built it and they will come.!
This Is Anfield........

“At a football club, there’s a holy trinity - the players, the manager and the supporters. Directors don’t come into it. They are only there to sign the cheques”. Bill Shankly on boardroom meetings

I must say they are all great posts and although i would love for Liverpool to play here i also think the atmosphere lost will blemish my high hopes but the chance to see our club come closer and theres a chance i could actually watch them live is too much for me to pass up.

I'm against it on a club level but on a personal level i know i wont be able to see these lads play live before they retire and to say i watched Steven Gerrard, Jamie Carragher, Fernando Torres, Javier Mascherano, Xabi Alonso and Rafa Benitez amongst others live in a stadium would make my life complete. I'm young so naturally i'm a greedy little bugger which influences my decision a great deal too.

I'm definitely with you on that one Crouchinho.

Australian Reds may get the chance to see them live IF we were to win the European Cup.

Either from next season or the season after isn't the World Club Championship being moved from Japan to Australia?

i think its a stupid idea.  unless its in los angeles than i can go.....otherwise....stup id idea.  I would love to see them live....i'm saving money for january to come see a couple matches.   

That's a bit biased.!.
Either way crouchino, it wouldnt be the same to see them in aus. save up and get a home leg semi-final tie for the champions league. naturally we will be playing chelsea, and we will probably beat them, then just tie your return trip in with a stop over in rome.! Get IN!

But people must go. They'll want to go. You can't just dismiss something like this so easily. It is a burden to the local people of each club. We're not a club from East Asia. We're a club from England. Come here and see a proper football match!

I get sick to the back teeth of people saying football is a global brand now and you just have to face it. Fair enough, but that doesn't mean we have to be happy with our local club being flaunted about for the wrong reasons. And I'm sure other English club fans will feel the same.

If we're all happy to say the league is not for England anymore and it's too big then we might as well play each game in a different country and be done with it.

In my eyes, if this ever comes to pass, then it's opening a big can of worms.

Anyone who's for this needs their head testing. I can undersand the exciting prospect for reds who live across the world to see our team play near them and have a chance of actually seeing an important game with their own eyes. But it would be another step of suffocating the local fan and the base of which all football clubs have come from.

If I was passionate about the Great Wall Of China. I'd go see it for my self. I wouldn't want a section of it broken up and shipped over here for me to see it. There'd eventually be no wall left after a while....

If you go to every LFC match you are obviously rich enough to fly around the world with the team watching the matches anyways. So one more game abroad wouldn't bother your monocle wearing self.

If there was an LFC package that I could just fly over to Liverpool and watch a game for my months pay I would. It just doesn't work that way. There are LFC fans in Liverpool who can't make it to a game.

You say a game that counts, not being played England would suffocate the game? Would it really detach you from your team? To see them try to expand the game and make football a bigger & better sport worldwide.

2 NFL teams give up 1 of 16 games to go to England, every year now I believe, Americans didn't put down their beer and decide to watch curling because their team is in another country, that might not have as wide a fan base.

Saying LFC shouldn't be allowed to play a meaningful game abroad is like saying American musicians shouldn't be able to play abroad.

The people who need their heads checked are the ones who pretend they are so hard done by being a Liverpool supporter in Liverpool. No one is trying to remove the team from Liverpool. No one is trying to strangle, or steal your team from you. I know as an outsider I just want my one moment to see the club, and feel a part of LFC, then you can go back to hoarding a group of foreigners and calling them scouse. I hope the day comes when you watch a wall of Chinese or Canadian fans take their crack at YNWA on the toob. Maybe you'll realize that there are people half way around the world love LFC as much as you do.

As soon as The EPL started consuming the biggest talents all over the world it became bigger than England. If you want to watch a real British football match watch div 1 where most of the players are British. EPL will always be English based, and played in England (hopefully with exception) but the market is so much bigger than England, it's global. The fat cats that run these things realize that to make more money you have to expand your audience, and they're doing just that.

This is just a waste of time. I went for the Chelsea game against my country's selection of 11 and it sucked. I won't watch any more matches in this country. Even if Liverpool came, best i'd do is get signatures and take pictures with them. The fans here are just to retarded

What happens if a team win the PL on the last day? All the loyal fans who've gone week in, week out all season won't get to see their players lift the trophy?

Silly idea.

Thre 39th game will be an extra game in the season but not the last game of the season.

This is just a waste of time. I went for the Chelsea game against my country's selection of 11 and it sucked. I won't watch any more matches in this country. Even if Liverpool came, best i'd do is get signatures and take pictures with them. The fans here are just to retarded

I know where you're from mate

In that particular "exhibition match" of all people, Mr. Ashley Cole went and scored a one-on-one.

How does it work out with the league dafurf?

At the moment we play the other 19 teams home and away, so who would play in this 39th game? And when would it be played?

If you go to every LFC match you are obviously rich enough to fly around the world with the team watching the matches anyways. So one more game abroad wouldn't bother your monocle wearing self.

Bit judgemental that lad, there are some fans that will travel to wherever the club are playing, but to say there rich is a bit F***ing cheeky, they'll have paid for their season ticket, which means they only have to save up for away games. For some Liverpool fans its the only thing they look forward to.

One point though it was the Liverpool supporters AT Anfield that drew Shankly to Anfield back in 59, plus would we get that atmosphere were so famous for in that 39th game.

I don't like the idea simply because of that smug c**t Richard Scudamore, he's not doing it for the fans, he's only thinking of the money.

How does it work out with the league dafurf?

At the moment we play the other 19 teams home and away, so who would play in this 39th game? And when would it be played?

There was talk that the top teams would play the bottom teams.
I`m not on for it,I`m sure the FA will manage to back their Darling ManU and Chelsea and screw us somehow.

It`s still all on the drawing board,they are just sounding us out to see what public reaction is.It`s all about money,TV rights,shirt sales etc.

How does it work out with the league dafurf?

At the moment we play the other 19 teams home and away, so who would play in this 39th game? And when would it be played?


Bit judgemental that lad, there are some fans that will travel to wherever the club are playing, but to say there rich is a bit F***ing cheeky, they'll have paid for their season ticket, which means they only have to save up for away games. For some Liverpool fans its the only thing they look forward to.

One point though it was the Liverpool supporters AT Anfield that drew Shankly to Anfield back in 59, plus would we get that atmosphere were so famous for in that 39th game.

I don't like the idea simply because of that smug c**t Richard Scudamore, he's not doing it for the fans, he's only thinking of the money.

I can't believe I got called 'cheeky.' I feel I have to start saying 'Eh?' more to live up to my Canadian stereotype.

So those fans travel to France, Spain, Russia, Turkey, ect buying CL tickets aren't rich? That's laughable eh.  Liverpulians(sp?) themselves even talk about how average people can't make it to games because of costs and the season ticket waiting list eh. Awful stuff eh, real fans being choked out by those more fortunate.

And some Liverpool fans only look forward to watching their team on a 18" box. Shouldn't the people that look forward to going to every single match, and the people who watch every match on TV get the opportunity to switch places?

One point though it was the Liverpool supporters AT Anfield that drew Shankly to Anfield back in 59, plus would we get that atmosphere were so famous for in that 39th game.

I agree LFC supporters are great, I am one of them.

So only the fans in the stadium that day should be allowed back in? Or their direct descendants? There are Liverpool fans everywhere. If you think I'm less of a fan than you because I live in an Igloo in Canada, then you are mistaken. A stadium full of LFC fans anywhere in the world would do any other fan proud.

No the atmosphere wouldn't be close to that of Liverpool in another country, but it would rival that of any away game. This will be an away game, there will be no replica kop or 'this is Anfield' sign, no one wants to make Liverpool their home team, they just want the team to play a game, then go home.

If you go to every LFC match you are obviously rich enough to fly around the world with the team watching the matches anyways. So one more game abroad wouldn't bother your monocle wearing self.

If there was an LFC package that I could just fly over to Liverpool and watch a game for my months pay I would. It just doesn't work that way. There are LFC fans in Liverpool who can't make it to a game.

You say a game that counts, not being played England would suffocate the game? Would it really detach you from your team? To see them try to expand the game and make football a bigger & better sport worldwide.

2 NFL teams give up 1 of 16 games to go to England, every year now I believe, Americans didn't put down their beer and decide to watch curling because their team is in another country, that might not have as wide a fan base.

Saying LFC shouldn't be allowed to play a meaningful game abroad is like saying American musicians shouldn't be able to play abroad.

The people who need their heads checked are the ones who pretend they are so hard done by being a Liverpool supporter in Liverpool. No one is trying to remove the team from Liverpool. No one is trying to strangle, or steal your team from you. I know as an outsider I just want my one moment to see the club, and feel a part of LFC, then you can go back to hoarding a group of foreigners and calling them scouse. I hope the day comes when you watch a wall of Chinese or Canadian fans take their crack at YNWA on the toob. Maybe you'll realize that there are people half way around the world love LFC as much as you do.

A monocle? I can't recall wearing one of those, although I may have done after a few bottles of the finest champagne money can buy along with a dashing of caviar and just can't remember. I'm usually too busy mixing with the Queen to be honest, old chap.

Seriously though, I know what it's like more than most trying to get to Anfield, living in Liverpool and being skint.

I can't see what you mean by saying would it detach me from my team? Nothing could ever do that. It's my local club. It's part of my family.

Football is already a global sport and the league here in England is arguably the biggest. Playing a league game in another country wont improve the football or make it any bigger. It will just open the door for more unjust notions where affecting the people of Liverpool or any other people of local clubs are concerned and line more pockets of the greedy.

You can't compare NFL to football with this logic. I think you'll find that football is the most important sport here and no amount of NFL games will be doing much to challenge that in the near future. So I feel sorry for those local fans back in America being deprived of a game.

And the comparison to bands is laughable in all honesty. Seriously. That would make you look like you're looking at things solely on an entertainment value. Of course, you want to be entertained when you go the match, but you don't go there for that reason!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You also gave me a good laugh saying the ones needing their head testing are the ones pretending to be so hard done by being a Liverpool supporter in Liverpool.  So I presume that means me? You don't pretend nothing here when it come to LFC mate.

Have a bit of respect for Liverpudlians please. I've already said I understand the concept of reds around the world seeing an important game with their own eyes. And I respect that. But if this was ever to pass, what you get now and what you could get in the future could be two different things.

So far though, if you had your way, you'd be sorry you never got to Anfield before everything went wrong.....do it before things crumble.  If you feel that strongly about seeing the reds then you'd want to see them here. The home of Liverpool.

That's a bit biased.!.
Either way crouchino, it wouldnt be the same to see them in aus. save up and get a home leg semi-final tie for the champions league. naturally we will be playing chelsea, and we will probably beat them, then just tie your return trip in with a stop over in rome.! Get IN!

Yeah i see how a 16 year old could fly to England by themself, save thousands like it were nothing, manage to get a hand on a ticket and leave during final year/uni.

I say what i say on a personal level with many reasons depriving me of seeing the club i love and the players i would love to say i saw play live.

Also Huyton, thats why i'm supporting Adelaide. If they win i will fly anywhere across the country to see the WCC.