Our Team - The Reason !

We're all looking for reason...here show's it...plain and simple:

Look at our strongest XI team...and keep the players you'd want for next season:

Reina, Carra, Agger, Arbeloa, Gerrard, Masch and Torres.

7 players !

A Big Maybe over Babel and Lucas.

We are currently 4 players short of having any chance of competing.  SIMPLE!

Add an extra man to that......

PACKO

We're all looking for reason...here show's it...plan and simple:

Look at our strongest XI team...and keep the players you'd want for next season:

Reina, Carra, Agger, Arbeloa, Gerrard, Masch and Torres.

7 players !

A Big Maybe over Babel and Lucas.

We are currently 4 players short of having any chance of competing.  SIMPLE!

On a more serious note, even if Rafa had a fully fit squad to pick from, he ain't gonna put the so called strongest 11 out. Most sane LFC fans no what the strongest 11 is. As long as we have Rafa who we trust in, then we will always have rotation, im keeping my fingers crossed though for next season so that Rafa see"s the light and plays most games with his strongest 11, and only chopping and changing if he really needs to.

We're all looking for reason...here show's it...plan and simple:

Look at our strongest XI team...and keep the players you'd want for next season:

Reina, Carra, Agger, Arbeloa, Gerrard, Masch and Torres.

7 players !

A Big Maybe over Babel and Lucas.

We are currently 4 players short of having any chance of competing.  SIMPLE!

Its not really a big maybe over babel and lucas because lucas has done wel this season and will be great in the future. Babel was one of our better players today and has scored some great goals, he is also one for the future so i would add them to the list of deffo staying

Not talking squad players - I'm talking starting XI.  We are currently missing a world class, Left-back, Right Winger, Left Winger and Partner for Torres.

Reina, Carra, Agger, Finnan, Arbeloa, Gerrard, Masch, , Torres.  8 players.

So who can fill the blocks?  Quaresma?  Berbatov?  Villa?  Aguero?  Henry maybe?

-----------------------Reina----------------------
Finnan--------Carra-----------Agger---------Arbeloa
??-------Gerrard-------Masch---------??
----------------Torres-----------??------------

Reina, Carra, Agger, Finnan, Arbeloa, Gerrard, Masch, , Torres.  8 players.

So who can fill the blocks?  Quaresma?  Berbatov?  Villa?  Aguero?  Henry maybe?

-----------------------Reina----------------------
Finnan--------Carra-----------Agger---------Arbeloa
??-------Gerrard-------Masch---------??
----------------Torres-----------??------------

Arbeloa's not a left back mate!

Could of sworn he's played there before for us.

He can play there in football manager (yeah I know football manager not based on real etc...)

I'm sure he'd do a more capable job there than Aurelio or Riise in that position any way!

Come on then Richo.  Help me out here.  Need to fill these blanks! 

On a more serious note, even if Rafa had a fully fit squad to pick from, he ain't gonna put the so called strongest 11 out. Most sane LFC fans no what the strongest 11 is. As long as we have Rafa who we trust in, then we will always have rotation, im keeping my fingers crossed though for next season so that Rafa see"s the light and plays most games with his strongest 11, and only chopping and changing if he really needs to.

Christ but I'm getting sick of hearing Rafa bashing today! I've kept my mouth shut and have been as gutted as we all have by the result, but FFS these are the best players Rafa has been able to put together with regards to the budget he has been given! Plus, the guy has been investing in the best young talent there is available... what are you looking for ? A quick-fix Chelski team to follow? I think most of us are intelligent enough to understand that forming a TEAM isn't quite so simple.
If we are to react to quickly in the face of a painful defeat, why don't we sack our manager, like Arsenal did with Arsene Wenger when they lost in the Champion's League final... Oh, hang on, they didn't. Where are they in the Premiership this season?
Do you really think that Alcoholic Ferguson could have brought the Mancs the Champions League trophy with the same squad?
Why can't we accept the fact that sometimes sh*t happens? That because we are Liverpool all is not necessarily due to us? Because we all love our club despite our differences, I think.
Consistency is the only way forward, In Rafa I Trust.
And you?

He has played there for us - but only cause we have JAR and Aurelio there - say's it all doesn't it!!!!  He's right footed.

Haven't got a clue who we should sign - probably most of the names that have been mentioned on here countless times:

Villa - CF.
Lennon - RW
Left back - Aint got a clue !
Left Wing - Aint got a clue !

Christ but I'm getting sick of hearing Rafa bashing today! I've kept my mouth shut and have been as gutted as we all have by the result, but FFS these are the best players Rafa has been able to put together with regards to the budget he has been given! Plus, the guy has been investing in the best young talent there is available... what are you looking for ? A quick-fix Chelski team to follow? I think most of us are intelligent enough to understand that forming a TEAM isn't quite so simple.
If we are to react to quickly in the face of a painful defeat, why don't we sack our manager, like Arsenal did with Arsene Wenger when they lost in the Champion's League final... Oh, hang on, they didn't. Where are they in the Premiership this season?
Do you really think that Alcoholic Ferguson could have brought the Mancs the Champions League trophy with the same squad?
Why can't we accept the fact that sometimes sh*t happens? That because we are Liverpool all is not necessarily due to us? Because we all love our club despite our differences, I think.
Consistency is the only way forward, In Rafa I Trust.
And you?

Hear what you're saying - but where's the development - and how long do you give someone to improve the situation?  Surely...you act sooner rather than later...when you see a gap appearing like it is at the moment !

You've got a good idea of Lennon.  I said ages a go we should of signed him.  But Pennant does do the job.  So I wouldn't be too fussed if we didn't sign a RW in the summer.

Deffo need a left winger though.  Speculation is increasing in Spain that Quaresma could be on his way to Madrid... Real that being.

I wonder if Joaquin can play on the left...

surely people can see rafa has come to his end , best players he can get with his budger dont make me laugh theres premeir clubs who would love his budget let alone barnsley, ive said it before we kept houlier to long ,we are now making the same mistake.there is something not right there players under perfoming all the signs off a lost changing room. Really hope im wrong but i sadly dont think i am.One thing i know for sure is i live in ipswich and normally come to anfield twice a year and try to get to games when they are more local, i will now be putting my money to better use untill things improve , .How many other people are doing that

Didn't want this to turn into a RAFA OUT THREAD - was just trying to sum up the reasons to our disspointing season...so far!

Didn't want this to turn into a RAFA OUT THREAD - was just trying to sum up the reasons to our disspointing season...so far!

Indeed. 

Anymore Rafa out posts in here will be deleted respectfully.

On a more serious note, even if Rafa had a fully fit squad to pick from, he ain't gonna put the so called strongest 11 out. Most sane LFC fans no what the strongest 11 is. As long as we have Rafa who we trust in, then we will always have rotation, im keeping my fingers crossed though for next season so that Rafa see"s the light and plays most games with his strongest 11, and only chopping and changing if he really needs to.

If you state that most sane LFC fans know his squad better than him, and that you cross your fingers that next year he "sees the light", then i don't know what else to call it. Anyway, it wasn't personally against you, ste_macca, it's just that a lot of so called fans were calling for his head in the match thread and it pissed me off!
Obviously I agree that our squad is the main reason for our "so-called" underachievement at the moment... But my point was to highlight all Rafa has achieved with them.
Does anyone really think that if Rafa was to leave, or be sacked, that the funds would be there to provide a complete re-structuring of our squad? Or is this the Newcastle United website?
"Our team - the reason", could also be written "Our team - we don't have a blank chequebook".
Rafa is buying for the future, partly because he hasn't the funds available to buy David Villa and God-Knows-Who-Else, but if we look at the youth of the squad, he is doing his best to buy the youth of tomorrow.
"Our team - Tomorrow" could be a cracking thread too, but I'd settle for our team Tuesday, giving Inter Hell!
YNWA

Sorry Court, read your post too late!

Sorry Court, read your post too late!

No worries. 

Starting from.... now.

For left sided players I'd like to throw in my usuals Menez, Ben Arfa and Van der Vaart. I've heard that Emmanuelson is a good LB too.

For left sided players I'd like to throw in my usuals Menez, Ben Arfa and Van der Vaart. I've heard that Emmanuelson is a good LB too.

Van der Vaart is the only player I recognized that you meantioned there fella!

Not seen much of him either.  Wonder if Cristiano Ronaldo is still interested in signing for us?.... Not.

im sure Arbeloa is a left back

Menez and Ben Arfa are both French. They're part of this new generation along with Benzema and Nasri I think they all went to Clairefontaine. We were linked with Menez in October for around 6.5m along with Man Ure. They've also been linked with Benzema and Ben Arfa. If our rivals our interested in these players I really think we should be too.
Emmanuelson is from Ajax but that's all I know. Drenthe's another possibility for LB.

Menez and Ben Arfa are both French. They're part of this new generation along with Benzema and Nasri I think they all went to Clairefontaine. We were linked with Menez in October for around 6.5m along with Man Ure. They've also been linked with Benzema and Ben Arfa. If our rivals our interested in these players I really think we should be too.
Emmanuelson is from Ajax but that's all I know. Drenthe's another possibility for LB.

Cheers for that info mate.

Didn't Drenthe sign for Real Madrid in the summer?? 

FIVESTAR, may I be the first to say you are a fickle F***ing tw*t. 'Fans' like yourself are not welcome at this club, there are thousands of real fans out there who for one reason or another will never get to go to Anfield that would kill for the opportunity to go, yet you think your money is 'better spent' elsewhere because results aren't going our way. 
 
I hope you never manage to get your hands on another ticket, you don't F***ing deserve to be associated with this great club.

My thoughts exactly Eddie.

To be honest FIVESTAR you are the type of person that gives out of towners such a bad name amongst scousers which many dont deserve.

No doubt you are an Istanbul band-wagon jumping pr**k.

Do us all a favour and go and support ....i dunno , who is top of the league ? .... Arsenal ? ...sorted.........or F***ing Ipswich for that matter.

Court LFC,
Drenthe did sign for Real Madrid in the summer but he's out of favour at the moment. I read that he was unhappy and looking for first team football.

I'm not quite sure he's what we're looking for but he does have wicked pace.

Drenthe is also good at set pieces, perfect replacement for riise?? But what about bridge, would he be worth the gamble???

Joe Cole i hear is a possible target but im not sure whether he would fit in because he tries skill too much and he does lose it quite alot. too much of a one man team.


There is so many players linked with us at the moment, even diarra from madrid, why the hell would we wnat him we already have 4 centre mids.

people can speculate all day long about possible transfers but we wont be signing anyone until its confirmed that rafa will still have a job and also all depends on who the owners are, be it Yanks or DIC

Im not one to be horrible to people on here, because i admire all Liverpool fans wherever they are in the world but FIVESTAR, no doubt you are looking like a glory hunter and like a fellow poster said before you give us OOT's a bad name which we dont want and which many of us dont deserve!, if you think your moneys better off spent elsewhere then move to scumland and glory hunt with there millions of fans! They only spend money when their winning, them bunch of band wagon jumping phoneys!

Drenthe is also good at set pieces, perfect replacement for riise?? But what about bridge, would he be worth the gamble???

Joe Cole i hear is a possible target but im not sure whether he would fit in because he tries skill too much and he does lose it quite alot. too much of a one man team.


There is so many players linked with us at the moment, even diarra from madrid, why the hell would we wnat him we already have 4 centre mids.

people can speculate all day long about possible transfers but we wont be signing anyone until its confirmed that rafa will still have a job and also all depends on who the owners are, be it Yanks or DIC

I wouldn't mind Wayne Bridge actually.  He does his job.  Like Finnan does at RB.

I'd also have a go at trying to sign Joe Cole as well. 

Diarra maybe to replace Alonso I hate to say?  Ah let's just leave it to the summer.

Oh.  And let's hope DIC takes over. 

Why would you sign Diarra to replace Alonso? I think you need to change your avatar Court .

I would think Joe Cole would be one of the least probable players we would ever sign, up there with Drogba and Ronaldo. Why would Chelsea let go one of their most productive and creative players? Cole is a top class international player, and whilst I'd love to see him play for Liverpool, it ain't gonna happen...
I think we need to sign a winger and a striker.

Here's a realistic team for next year, in the formation I think we would play best in (as I've posted before in different topics)

                  Reina
Finnan    Carra    Skrtel/Agger    Arbeloa
             Masch   Alonso
                   Gerrard
    Young                     Babel
                    Torres

I'd either want a new striker to come off the bench, or a new winger to replace Babel in the 1st XI and have Ryan come off the bench for Torres.

A team I'd love to see next year:
                  Reina
Arbeloa   Carra    Agger    Drenthe
             Masch   Alonso
                  Gerrard
      Joaquin               Quaresma
                  Torres

Oooh what a team that would be.

He has played there for us - but only cause we have JAR and Aurelio there - say's it all doesn't it!!!!  He's right footed.

So is Phillip Lahm, he is a LB with a right foot.

Villa/Huntelaar, Silva, Bridge also maybe. Villa and Huntelaar we need, we need to rotate class with class, Villa is like another Torres and who wouldnt want that but Huntelaar would finish 9/10 chances which is what we need, offload Crouch, Voronin and Kuyt and Babel can be shifted up there next season. Huntelaar Villa Torres and Babel, F**k me dead! Silva for obvious reasons on the left and Bridge because he does his job consistently and I feel would only be worth a couple million. 4 maybe.

60 million for those 4 I would say with Crouch going for 10, Voronin for 2, Kuyt for 7, Aurellio for 2. 40 odd million for those guys and the Prem will be ours, muahahaha!

FIVESTAR, may I be the first to say you are a fickle F***ing tw*t. 'Fans' like yourself are not welcome at this club, there are thousands of real fans out there who for one reason or another will never get to go to Anfield that would kill for the opportunity to go, yet you think your money is 'better spent' elsewhere because results aren't going our way. 
 
I hope you never manage to get your hands on another ticket, you don't F***ing deserve to be associated with this great club.

Well put Eddie,it is easy to support a winning team,but a true supporter stays with CLUB through good and bad times.An outsider would think we had been in the relegation zone for the past 3 seasons but we have won the F.A.Cup and the European Champions Cup,not bad for failures is it.When Shanks was running the CLUB it was not all a bed of roses,we had our ups and downs but we always got back to the top and I cannot recall fans calling for the great mans head ever.

                  Reina
Arbeloa   Carra    Agger    Drenthe
             Masch   Alonso
                  Gerrard
      Joaquin               Quaresma
                  Torres

I've got to agree *rubs hands together*.. that would be one hellova team to hunt the EPL..

This excuse of we dont have the players to compete is a way to not facing the thruth. All our players would find a place in a first eleven in all premier league squad, excepty maybe man u...so this "we are short of 4 players to compete" Im not buying it.

Players are not performing the way they should and that is why we are where we are. We have one of the best coach available, if Benitez goes tomorrow top clubs would be after him, we have enough quality in the squad to be there but its the performance overall who put us where we are. The result of yesterday is once again a clear example of this.

This excuse of we dont have the players to compete is a way to not facing the thruth. All our players would find a place in a first eleven in all premier league squad, excepty maybe man u...so this "we are short of 4 players to compete" Im not buying it.

Players are not performing the way they should and that is why we are where we are. We have one of the best coach available, if Benitez goes tomorrow top clubs would be after him, we have enough quality in the squad to be there but its the performance overall who put us where we are. The result of yesterday is once again a clear example of this.

Riise Kewell Kuyt Voronin wouldnt make arsenal, chelsea first team. 

We need more players that would. I admit alot of fans look for someone to blame when we lost but rightfully because we should be doing alot better than this.

I dunno... I dont think many of our players would feature in arse/man/chel's first squad..
I do agree that many teams across the globe would love Raffa as their manager and i personally would brick it if he left..
A lot of fans are complaining that were gonna have to scrap for 4th but without Raffa i fear we could become a mid table team for atleast a couple of seasons..
Lets stick with the "Raffmiester" and stop sticking the boot in..

I dunno... I dont think many of our players would feature in arse/man/chel's first squad..
I do agree that many teams across the globe would love Raffa as their manager and I personally would brick it if he left..
A lot of fans are complaining that were gonna have to scrap for 4th but without Raffa I fear we could become a mid table team for atleast a couple of seasons..
Lets stick with the "Raffmiester" and stop sticking the boot in..

That's it - not many of our current starting XI would feature in Arsenal, Mancs or Chelsea's team.  (Baring some of the names I mentioned at the start)

I had high hopes for Pennant.  But the guy can't beat a player...so he's wasted as winger in my opinion.

Kewell I'm afraid is finished.  He's no pace, he stops to many times when he's running with the ball - which then spoils the flow of the play.

Babel could have a good future with us - but won't win us the league next season - same with Lucas.

Alonso - is on his way out - he doesn't offer enough to warrant a place.  So he may hit a 40 yard pass from time to time - so what.

I would personally keep Pennant as a squad player, but I would get rid of Kewell. Like you said he's lost his pace and doesn't seem to be able to beat a man anymore.

 I think Alonso still has a lot offer us. There's no one on the team who can match his passing ability. His through ball to Benayoun yesterday was sublime and it should have been put in the back of the net. I think there's room for Masch, Alonso and Gerrard to play in the same team allowing each one to play to their strengths. However Alonso is coming to that age where he might want to spend the rest of his good footballing years in Spain. I hope he doesn't.

I think the level of impact that Babel and Lucas will have on the team will depend on how quickly they come out of their shells. Babel since he spends more time in the attacking 1/3 can afford to and needs to take more risks. Ronaldo made so many mistakes when he first started but he that confidence and even the cockiness to keep at it, I think that Nani might turn out to be similar and Babel needs to have more belief in his own abilities. He's definately capable of being a match winner.

On another note we've been linked with Diego and Rafinha the RB from Schalke in today's gossip. Anyone know anything about Rafinha?

FIVESTAR, may I be the first to say you are a fickle F***ing tw*t. 'Fans' like yourself are not welcome at this club, there are thousands of real fans out there who for one reason or another will never get to go to Anfield that would kill for the opportunity to go, yet you think your money is 'better spent' elsewhere because results aren't going our way. 
 
I hope you never manage to get your hands on another ticket, you don't F***ing deserve to be associated with this great club.
SORRY  if i offended  anybody but i thought this was a forum where you were allowed to view your views. i accept I'm not a real fan by not going to every game but i have supported or followed them if you like since i was a boy and this is for me the worst time. I am not a Rafa fan like Ive said before he is a master of tactics and tinkering but i don't i think that will win a prem IMO . so again I'm sorry if i didn't put that across very well but i am not  a tw8t . I am intitiled to my oppinion like you are there is no need to  resort to insults.

Nani showed what happens when young players are confident with his Kerlon style seal dribble. Babel plays with alot of pace and skill and players like this are excellent when confident. He will become alot more confident soon given a few more starts and i think he will get them.

Plenty of people on here have said they want Rafa gone, and for the most part I have discussed their reasons without insulting them. The reason I didn't do you such a courtesy was the fact you said you wouldn't be going to your two games a season because of our poor form, and that your money would be better spent elsewhere. This is the attitude I find unacceptable, regardless of how well we're doing or what you think of the current management or players the club deserves everyones full support.

Plenty of people on here have said they want Rafa gone, and for the most part I have discussed their reasons without insulting them. The reason I didn't do you such a courtesy was the fact you said you wouldn't be going to your two games a season because of our poor form, and that your money would be better spent elsewhere. This is the attitude I find unacceptable, regardless of how well we're doing or what you think of the current management or players the club deserves everyones full support.

Very true, fans should support their team 100% thats what being a fan is all about. Its true this season has been rather hectic but things will look up, rafa isnt stupid, what player have you seen us have that wasnt upto it and keep him for long. (kewell cannot be included because he was injured not playing).

Plenty of people on here have said they want Rafa gone, and for the most part I have discussed their reasons without insulting them. The reason I didn't do you such a courtesy was the fact you said you wouldn't be going to your two games a season because of our poor form, and that your money would be better spent elsewhere. This is the attitude I find unacceptable, regardless of how well we're doing or what you think of the current management or players the club deserves everyones full support.

I accept it may be hard to take a harsh comment from somebody who does not commit there time and money in to the club as many of you do . But at what point do you real fans start to speak up? Ive read on here many times that houleir should of gone much earleir , i hope history is not repeating itself. I dont mean this in a nasty way but could your love for this club be making you blind? Ask somebody without the passion for the club and hear what they have to say

I love the club, that doesn't necessarily go hand in hand with loving the manager. I genuinely believe Rafa is the right man for the job, if I didn't then I would be calling for his head too.

surely people can see rafa has come to his end , best players he can get with his budger dont make me laugh theres premeir clubs who would love his budget let alone barnsley, ive said it before we kept houlier to long ,we are now making the same mistake.there is something not right there players under perfoming all the signs off a lost changing room. Really hope im wrong but I sadly dont think I am.One thing I know for sure is I live in ipswich and normally come to anfield twice a year and try to get to games when they are more local, I will now be putting my money to better use untill things improve , .How many other people are doing that

Please better spend your money by getting a one way flight to manchester, they need fans like you. There are thousands of fans who would kill to get to a game at Anfield, and your saying it's a waste. F***ing fickle fans like you are a disgrace to our club.

I accept it may be hard to take a harsh comment from somebody who does not commit there time and money in to the club as many of you do . But at what point do you real fans start to speak up? Ive read on here many times that houleir should of gone much earleir , I hope history is not repeating itself. I dont mean this in a nasty way but could your love for this club be making you blind? Ask somebody without the passion for the club and hear what they have to say

Love for the club making us blind? Surely if we love the club, and the manager is not right we would be calling for his head? But no, we're behind him! For what we beleive is for the good of the club!

Love for the club making us blind? Surely if we love the club, and the manager is not right we would be calling for his head? But no, we're behind him! For what we beleive is for the good of the club!

well said

Belief includes desire, confidence and expectation! Positive thinking is obvious condition of winning. If you think you lack something to win, you will get that.
So I prefer to think:
We have everything to win: luck, players and a manager.

When you answer what helped for Barnsley to win, if they don't have top quality players, don't have Gerrard or Torres,don't have much money to spend, they are 14th in 2nd division, you will get answer how to win forever.

There are 7 subs bench warming next season so add a few from the reserves...

Crouchino I like your thinking but if the yanks are still in charge they'll drag their heels until they sell a few players and by that time most targets may be out of sight at least that's how it was last summer so why should this summer be any different (Whist these guys are in charge I'm pessimistic for the future).....

Spot on bartman.I share your concerns about the owners willingness to release funds in time to secure the correct players. We all speculate about who we should get and I am 100% sure that Rafa has already spoken to the players he wants. So if we dont get them done & dusted before the end of the season there can only be 1 reason, so be afraid be very afraid if tom & gerry are still in control come May.

IRWT

WOuld love us to buy Lahm, Quaresma/Silva and Benzema/Huntelaar

Reina
Arbeloa Carragher Agger Lahm
Babel Gerrard Mascherano Quaresma
Benzema Torres

Reina
Arbeloa Carragher Agger Lahm
Babel Gerrard Mascherano Silva
Torres Huntelaar

Reina
Arbeloa Carragher Agger Lahm
Alonso Mascherano
Gerrard
Babel Torres Silva

Reina
Arbeloa Carragher Agger Lahm
Gerrard Mascherano Silva
Babel Benzema Torres 

One thing I know for sure is I live in ipswich and normally come to anfield twice a year and try to get to games when they are more local, I will now be putting my money to better use untill things improve , .How many other people are doing that

You F***ing glory hunter. So every other team below us shouldn't be worthy to watch for their fellow supporters either?
We are 5th mate, yes its F***ing terrible for a club like us but 5th position in the best league in England would be dreamed of by most clubs.

But we should be doing better, much better but its called support and backing your team through thick and thin.

surely people can see rafa has come to his end , best players he can get with his budger dont make me laugh theres premeir clubs who would love his budget let alone barnsley, ive said it before we kept houlier to long ,we are now making the same mistake.there is something not right there players under perfoming all the signs off a lost changing room. Really hope im wrong but I sadly dont think I am.One thing I know for sure is I live in ipswich and normally come to anfield twice a year and try to get to games when they are more local, I will now be putting my money to better use untill things improve , .How many other people are doing that

Call yourself a fan, yet you wont be spending money on a ticket cos were playing badly, u dont deserve to be a reds supporter. Liverpool fans follow the team thru thick and thin. You must of started supporting us since 2005 i reckon.
Id do anything for a ticket. So would everyone else on here bar you.

Hey fivestar you dont turn your back if you are true.

The entire team is underperforming.

If they had pulled their socks up, and not titted about like a bunch of tarts we would probably be still in the title race, certainly still in the FA Cup and not staring down the barrel of an Inter disaster.

Let's face it - its impossible to judge this side when they are only playing at 85% of their capability.

Didn't want this to turn into a RAFA OUT THREAD

Bollocks you don't.

surely people can see rafa has come to his end , best players he can get with his budger dont make me laugh theres premeir clubs who would love his budget let alone barnsley, ive said it before we kept houlier to long ,we are now making the same mistake.there is something not right there players under perfoming all the signs off a lost changing room. Really hope im wrong but I sadly dont think I am.One thing I know for sure is I live in ipswich and normally come to anfield twice a year and try to get to games when they are more local, I will now be putting my money to better use untill things improve , .How many other people are doing that

Glory hunters, none real supporters should well be banned. This forum is for actual fans who support the club, not just when they see fit. Fair enough having your own point on certain subjects, but not to go dissing the club in any way and not supporting them.

Glory hunters, none real supporters should well be banned. This forum is for actual fans who support the club, not just when they see fit. Fair enough having your own point on certain subjects, but not to go dissing the club in any way and not supporting them.

He's got every right to have his say just as much as the next person. But putting his money to better use until things improve defines how much of a real fan he is. I hope any fans who have the same view as that put their money to better use and stay away when things improve.

Call yourself a fan, yet you wont be spending money on a ticket cos were playing badly, u dont deserve to be a reds supporter. Liverpool fans follow the team thru thick and thin. You must of started supporting us since 2005 I reckon.
Id do anything for a ticket. So would everyone else on here bar you.

Try 1975 and you would be somewhere near i oppolergise for the money better spent comment i was very angry with the result. Ive never called myself a real fan hard to when i live so far away but i do follow this club with a passion, Just ask my wife .ive read i should be bannsd if thats what people wont o.k

Try 1975 and you would be somewhere near i oppolergise for the money better spent comment i was very angry with the result. Ive never called myself a real fan hard to when i live so far away but i do follow this club with a passion, Just ask my wife .ive read i should be bannsd if thats what people wont o.k

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I suggest you start being nice

Try 1975 and you would be somewhere near I oppolergise for the money better spent comment I was very angry with the result. Ive never called myself a real fan hard to when I live so far away but I do follow this club with a passion, Just ask my wife .ive read I should be bannsd if thats what people wont o.k

Fair enough. It is easy to get carried away with anger and say things you don't mean after such results. You haven't done anything to get banned.

Please take this how its ment, Can someone get me some tickets for the next game , seriously they played great, how it should be everyone up for it, keep that up and ill order myself a big slice of humble pie

seriously they played great, how it should be everyone up for it, keep that up and ill order myself a big slice of humble pie

So you will only eat your words if they play like perfection and when something goes wrong you'll be back on the anti liverpool bandwagon?

Give me a break Ive apologized for my remarks i did say take this how it was meant IE tongue in cheek