Your signings for £30 million (including VAT)

I have read today on the SkySports website (http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11669_3517988,00.html) that Rafa has agreed a transfer budget with Tom Hicks of approximately £30 million for this summer. After all the speculation about who we'd like to buy, for which positions and for which amount of money, it would be interesting to see who we all who choose to buy for this amount. Whether or not this amount includes any money we may make from player sales is not mentioned, so if you want to play it easy and add a bit more (justified by realistic sales figures) you can, if you want to play it tough (or realistic  ) by assuming this amount is included in the £30 million it's up to you!

Here's my effort:

In: David Villa (we're allowed to dream  ) - £25 million
     Amantino Mancini - £4 million
     David Bentley - £15 million
     Gareth Barry - £10 million (+ Scott Carson)

     Total: £54 million

Out: Peter Crouch - £10 million
       JAR - £4 million
       Dirk Kuyt - £6 million

       Total £20 million
      Net spending: £34 million

Leaving a starting XI:

                                          Reina

Finnan/Arbeloa      Carra/Skrtel       Agger/Hyppia      Barry/Aurelio

                          Mascherano       Alonso/Lucas

Bentley/Pennant                  Gerrard                     Babel/Mancini

                                      Torres/Villa

It's easy enough to see that with these new additions we could play a more traditional 4-4-2 or 4-3-3, lots of these players are versatile enough to change position, I just fitted them into the 4-2-3-1 layout because it's what we've favoured at the backend of this season. I don't want anyone banging on about me selling Crouch either, after all I'm not manager and this is only for a laugh!

Great info  ayrton77   thanks

Some good signings but dream on, Mancini would be at least £12M wher do you get £4M from??

Some good signings but dream on, Mancini would be at least £12M wher do you get £4M from??

All the reports say that he can buyout his contract for £4m this summer.

This is interesting, hope its true. Still not quite the amount like United and Chelsea get but its a start I guess.

sell:

Crouch 8 mil
Riise 5 mil
Voronin 5 mil
Carson 10 mil
Pennant 6 mil

= 34mil, that's 64 mil to play with.   

I'd go for:

Barry 10mil
Bentley 15mil
Villa 25 mil (dreaming)
Rodriguez or Silva 14 mil (dreaming and unsure on what their price would be)

Total = 64 mil (wow that worked out nicely )

just imagine the squad for next season!     

                                          Reina/Itan

Finnan/Arbeloa      Carra/Skrtel       Agger/Hyppia      Barry/Aurelio

                          Mascherano/Plessis       Alonso/Lucas

Bentley/Kuyt                Gerrard/Beneyoun                   Babel/Rodriguez

                                      Torres/Villa

On second thoughts, who do you think would be better or more achievable realistically, Silva or Rodriguez?...

And we've got those 3 South Americans and Degen who apparently has already signed... So actually god knows what the hell is going to happen during this transfer period, as we could see one of the biggest clear outs the club has seen for along time. I hope I'm right though because this is the sort of team that we need to win the title.

In that case Eddie I stand corrected, bargain!

No way will we have a £30m net to spend this summer, I just can't see it myself.

I think £30m is including the players we've agreed to sell. Can only see us spending £15m net this summer.

With £30m to spend I'd have to go for just two players, either Quaresma or Silva and Mancini.

£30m isn't much seeing that we spend more than that last season. Torres £21m, Babel £11m, Lucas £6m & Benayoun £5m coming to a total of £43m maybe even more...

Reading the original article, £30m does seem to be a figure Sky have just plucked out the air, no-one's quoted as having mentioned that figure so I wouldn't read too much into it. Working on the assumption that the figure is correct though, I would go for:

OUT

Voronin - £2m
Pennant - £5m
Riise - £5m
Carson - £8m

Total - £20m

In

Villa - £25m
Barry - £10m
Mancini - £4m
Bentley - £12m
Degen - Free

Total £51m

The arrivals of Barry & Mancini would see another couple of quality versatile players at the club, with Barry able to play anywhere on the left & in centre mid, and Mancini able to play any attacking role and also having played at right back earlier in his career (not the greatest right back from memory but an option nonetheless should we get hit with injuries). When you consider the different positions many of our players can play we would be left with plenty of potential options for every position on the pitch:

Left Backs

Barry
Aurelio
Arbeloa
Insua

Centre Backs

Carragher
Skrtel
Agger
Hyypia
Arbeloa

Right Backs

Arbeloa
Degen
Finnan
Carragher
Mancini?

Left Mid

Barry
Babel
Mancini
Benayoun

Centre Mid

Gerrard
Alonso
Mascherano
Lucas
Barry

Right Mid

Bentley
Mancini
Benayoun
Babel
Gerrard

Attacking Mid

Gerrard
Babel
Mancini
Bentley
Benayoun

Strikers

Torres
Villa
Crouch
Kuyt
Babel
Mancini

I believe this squad would allow us to play pretty much any formation we choose without having to try & fit any square pegs into round holes. It would also allow for injuries, we could afford to lose quite a few players from that squad & still be able to put out a strong lineup. If we'd lost Gerrard & Torres for a large chunk of this season it could well have screwed us, it wouldn't be half as bad if you could play an attacking four of Babel, Mancini, Bentley & Villa as an alternative though

Reading the original article, £30m does seem to be a figure Sky have just plucked out the air.
I believe this squad would allow us to play pretty much any formation we choose without having to try & fit any square pegs into round holes. It would also allow for injuries, we could afford to lose quite a few players from that squad & still be able to put out a strong lineup.

Thanks for all your replies so far! I agree with your first point there Eddie, I looked at the article, and did notice that there wasn't even a mention of a "nameless" source for the figure of £30 million, but was wondering what kind of team we would be able to assemble with that amount. I also agreed with Ra Ra that the sum would probably include money made from player sales, because that is the way Gillett and Hicks have operated in the past when "buying" players. But it did make me think we could put together a very strong and versatile first team for that amount.

The important thing is that rafa does need to act fast and get players signed for us in the next couple of weeks as he has been quoted as saying, else the other big clubs in England and Europe will price us out of all our first choices in no time, leaving us with some poorer seconds once again. I'm still not convinced we'll sign Villa for any amount (prove me wrong Rafa! ), but even with another strong forward the line-up looks pretty sweet.

Plus with the players we have all mentioned, we would be less likely to be left wanting in the event that our first choices got injured or banned for important games. So many have the qualities to cover one another that our formation could adapt more easily, making it possible to compete more effectively in all competitions, without losing out in the title race.

I'm not sure how much I would sell them for but anyway

Sell
Crouch
Voronin
Carson
Risse

I think I would buy a strike partner as kuyt now seems to be on the wing.
Buy
Villa - £25m
Bentley - £12m
Amantino Mancini - £4 million

As i have stated in the David Villa thread, i cant see him leaving Spain- however we are allowed to dream- just hope to god we bid for Bentley cause it would be an unbelievable signing- FINGERS CROSSED!

Out:
Kuyt £6m
Crouch £9m
Pennant £6m
Riise £4m

Profit: £25m

In:
Micah Richards £12m
Barry £5m+Carson
Villa £23m
Rodrigeuz £15m

Mmmmm 4 out 4 in and considerably boost our team...

I can't see Voronin generating much of a fee so i've left him out.  Also i wouldn't mind holding onto Benayoun as a squad player.

Out Riise 5m, Crouch 8m, kewell (free), Alonso 10m+, Voronin 4m, pennant or benayoun 7m, finnan 4m, Carson 9m: Total is 47m.
In Lahm 15m, Silva 15m, Barry 10m, Mancini 5m. Total:45 m. We will earn 2m DEAL!

MY starting XI will be
                                                    Reina
Carra./Arbeloa                   Hyypia/Skrtel                 Agger                    Lahm/aurelio

                                    Masch.                               Barry
Mancini/Kuyt                                                                                       Silva/babel
                                                       Gerrard

                                                       Torres

OUT:

Voronin - 2 million
Riise - 4 million
Finnan - 1 million

TOTAL: 7 + 30 million

Silva - 12 million
Mancini - 4 million
Zambrotta - 6 million
Barry - 10 million
Marcelo Moreno - 5 million

A squad very worth of winning the title.

OUT:

Voronin - 2 million
Riise - 4 million
Finnan - 1 million

TOTAL: 7 + 30 million

Silva - 12 million
Mancini - 4 million
Zambrotta - 6 million
Barry - 10 million
Marcelo Moreno - 5 million

A squad very worth of winning the title.

Sounds very good but only two things i think would stop us is prices of Silva and Zambrotta, i couldnt see Silva going for any less than £17-20 million even though valencia are in a terrible position in the league. And zambrotta just seems like he would be valued at more than £6 million. Other than that looks very good would be shocked and delighted to get silva at that price.

OK this looks fun actually:

Out

Voronin - 1 million (with some luck )
Crouch - 11 million
Riise - 5 miillion
Carson - 10 million
Xabi - 18 million (unfortuantly)
Itanje - 3 million
 
Total - 48 million

In

Mati Fernandez - 14 million
Philip Degan - Bosman
Steve Harper - 500k
Insua - 1 million (I think he is still on loan)
Henry Saivet - 500k
Gabriel Torje - 1 million
Lulinha - 18 million
Villa - 25 million
Micah Richards - 22 million

Net Spending - 28million (i think )

Out

Alonso 14 million :'(
carson 6 million
Riise 5 million
Pennant 3 million
Crouch 9 million
Voronin 1 million 
Kewell 4 million

total 42 million + 30 million=

72 million total

In

Barry 6 million
Ashley Young 12 million
Bentley 15 million
Villa 17 million
Silva 7 million
Benzema 8 million
Michael Johnson 7 million

Think it adds up!!!!!!!!!!

I think that a 30m pound budget is very reasonable and feel that will probably be about the sort of figure DIC will put straight into the squad. Which added with the outgoing players will add up to just over 50m.  Obviously a lot will depend on the players available and the prices, if some very good offers will be available then maybe we may see that little extra push, after all I will expect to firstly make sure of the stadium.  Throwing too much money on arrival will inflate our future purchases.  Obviously if the Americans are still here then at best I only expect 30m including the revenue from players sold.

Outgoings

Crouch - if he doesn’t sign = £10m
Riise = £4m
Carson = £8m
Voronin = £2m
Pennant = £5m
Kewell = £00 But a massive burden off our medical bill and a saving of £3m in wages.

Total 29m

IN

Bentley – Must make sure of this deal = £14m
Barry -  £12m

Manchini - £4m
David Villa - £25m – Dreaming a little though!
 
TOTAL = £55M


If we don’t get villa and Mancini and keep Crouch, get a world class left winger.

Out

Alonso 14 million :'(
carson 6 million
Riise 5 million
Pennant 3 million
Crouch 9 million
Voronin 1 million 
Kewell 4 million

total 42 million + 30 million=

72 million total

In

Barry 6 million
Ashley Young 12 million
Bentley 15 million
Villa 17 million
Silva 7 million
Benzema 8 million
Michael Johnson 7 million

Think it adds up!!!!!!!!!!

If only the transfer market was as you picture it you may have devalued some people there... the benzama and silva values did make me chuckle a bit david bently was spot on though

If only the transfer market was as you picture it you may have devalued some people there... the benzama and silva values did make me chuckle a bit david bently was spot on though

. To be honest i was just really making a list of the players i'd like us to go for. I wasnt really thinking much about the prices. I atill stick with my outgoing players. More realisticly i reckon

20 million for Villa
15 million for Bentley
9 million for Johnson
16 milion for Barry


Any better???

. To be honest I was just really making a list of the players I'd like us to go for. I wasnt really thinking much about the prices. I atill stick with my outgoing players. More realisticly I reckon

20 million for Villa
15 million for Bentley
9 million for Johnson
16 milion for Barry


Any better???

Perfect mate

OK this looks fun actually:

Out

Voronin - 1 million (with some luck )
Crouch - 11 million
Riise - 5 miillion
Carson - 10 million
Xabi - 18 million (unfortuantly)
Itanje - 3 million
 
Total - 48 million

In

Mati Fernandez - 14 million
Philip Degan - Bosman
Steve Harper - 500k
Insua - 1 million (I think he is still on loan)
Henry Saivet - 500k
Gabriel Torje - 1 million
Lulinha - 18 million
Villa - 25 million
Micah Richards - 22 million

Net Spending - 28million (i think )

You have been playing way too much football manager mate, I'm not accepting any other explanation for suggesting Torje, Saivet & Lulinha (all turn out to be superstars in the game for anyone that doesn't play FM).