Your signings for £30 million (including VAT)

I have read today on the SkySports website (http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11669_3517988,00.html) that Rafa has agreed a transfer budget with Tom Hicks of approximately £30 million for this summer. After all the speculation about who we'd like to buy, for which positions and for which amount of money, it would be interesting to see who we all who choose to buy for this amount. Whether or not this amount includes any money we may make from player sales is not mentioned, so if you want to play it easy and add a bit more (justified by realistic sales figures) you can, if you want to play it tough (or realistic  ) by assuming this amount is included in the £30 million it's up to you!

Here's my effort:

In: David Villa (we're allowed to dream  ) - £25 million
     Amantino Mancini - £4 million
     David Bentley - £15 million
     Gareth Barry - £10 million (+ Scott Carson)

     Total: £54 million

Out: Peter Crouch - £10 million
       JAR - £4 million
       Dirk Kuyt - £6 million

       Total £20 million
      Net spending: £34 million

Leaving a starting XI:

                                          Reina

Finnan/Arbeloa      Carra/Skrtel       Agger/Hyppia      Barry/Aurelio

                          Mascherano       Alonso/Lucas

Bentley/Pennant                  Gerrard                     Babel/Mancini

                                      Torres/Villa

It's easy enough to see that with these new additions we could play a more traditional 4-4-2 or 4-3-3, lots of these players are versatile enough to change position, I just fitted them into the 4-2-3-1 layout because it's what we've favoured at the backend of this season. I don't want anyone banging on about me selling Crouch either, after all I'm not manager and this is only for a laugh!

Great info  ayrton77   thanks

Some good signings but dream on, Mancini would be at least £12M wher do you get £4M from??

Some good signings but dream on, Mancini would be at least £12M wher do you get £4M from??

All the reports say that he can buyout his contract for £4m this summer.

This is interesting, hope its true. Still not quite the amount like United and Chelsea get but its a start I guess.

sell:

Crouch 8 mil
Riise 5 mil
Voronin 5 mil
Carson 10 mil
Pennant 6 mil

= 34mil, that's 64 mil to play with.   

I'd go for:

Barry 10mil
Bentley 15mil
Villa 25 mil (dreaming)
Rodriguez or Silva 14 mil (dreaming and unsure on what their price would be)

Total = 64 mil (wow that worked out nicely )

just imagine the squad for next season!     

                                          Reina/Itan

Finnan/Arbeloa      Carra/Skrtel       Agger/Hyppia      Barry/Aurelio

                          Mascherano/Plessis       Alonso/Lucas

Bentley/Kuyt                Gerrard/Beneyoun                   Babel/Rodriguez

                                      Torres/Villa

On second thoughts, who do you think would be better or more achievable realistically, Silva or Rodriguez?...

And we've got those 3 South Americans and Degen who apparently has already signed... So actually god knows what the hell is going to happen during this transfer period, as we could see one of the biggest clear outs the club has seen for along time. I hope I'm right though because this is the sort of team that we need to win the title.

In that case Eddie I stand corrected, bargain!

No way will we have a £30m net to spend this summer, I just can't see it myself.

I think £30m is including the players we've agreed to sell. Can only see us spending £15m net this summer.

With £30m to spend I'd have to go for just two players, either Quaresma or Silva and Mancini.

£30m isn't much seeing that we spend more than that last season. Torres £21m, Babel £11m, Lucas £6m & Benayoun £5m coming to a total of £43m maybe even more...

Reading the original article, £30m does seem to be a figure Sky have just plucked out the air, no-one's quoted as having mentioned that figure so I wouldn't read too much into it. Working on the assumption that the figure is correct though, I would go for:

OUT

Voronin - £2m
Pennant - £5m
Riise - £5m
Carson - £8m

Total - £20m

In

Villa - £25m
Barry - £10m
Mancini - £4m
Bentley - £12m
Degen - Free

Total £51m

The arrivals of Barry & Mancini would see another couple of quality versatile players at the club, with Barry able to play anywhere on the left & in centre mid, and Mancini able to play any attacking role and also having played at right back earlier in his career (not the greatest right back from memory but an option nonetheless should we get hit with injuries). When you consider the different positions many of our players can play we would be left with plenty of potential options for every position on the pitch:

Left Backs

Barry
Aurelio
Arbeloa
Insua

Centre Backs

Carragher
Skrtel
Agger
Hyypia
Arbeloa

Right Backs

Arbeloa
Degen
Finnan
Carragher
Mancini?

Left Mid

Barry
Babel
Mancini
Benayoun

Centre Mid

Gerrard
Alonso
Mascherano
Lucas
Barry

Right Mid

Bentley
Mancini
Benayoun
Babel
Gerrard

Attacking Mid

Gerrard
Babel
Mancini
Bentley
Benayoun

Strikers

Torres
Villa
Crouch
Kuyt
Babel
Mancini

I believe this squad would allow us to play pretty much any formation we choose without having to try & fit any square pegs into round holes. It would also allow for injuries, we could afford to lose quite a few players from that squad & still be able to put out a strong lineup. If we'd lost Gerrard & Torres for a large chunk of this season it could well have screwed us, it wouldn't be half as bad if you could play an attacking four of Babel, Mancini, Bentley & Villa as an alternative though

Reading the original article, £30m does seem to be a figure Sky have just plucked out the air.
I believe this squad would allow us to play pretty much any formation we choose without having to try & fit any square pegs into round holes. It would also allow for injuries, we could afford to lose quite a few players from that squad & still be able to put out a strong lineup.

Thanks for all your replies so far! I agree with your first point there Eddie, I looked at the article, and did notice that there wasn't even a mention of a "nameless" source for the figure of £30 million, but was wondering what kind of team we would be able to assemble with that amount. I also agreed with Ra Ra that the sum would probably include money made from player sales, because that is the way Gillett and Hicks have operated in the past when "buying" players. But it did make me think we could put together a very strong and versatile first team for that amount.

The important thing is that rafa does need to act fast and get players signed for us in the next couple of weeks as he has been quoted as saying, else the other big clubs in England and Europe will price us out of all our first choices in no time, leaving us with some poorer seconds once again. I'm still not convinced we'll sign Villa for any amount (prove me wrong Rafa! ), but even with another strong forward the line-up looks pretty sweet.

Plus with the players we have all mentioned, we would be less likely to be left wanting in the event that our first choices got injured or banned for important games. So many have the qualities to cover one another that our formation could adapt more easily, making it possible to compete more effectively in all competitions, without losing out in the title race.

I'm not sure how much I would sell them for but anyway

Sell
Crouch
Voronin
Carson
Risse

I think I would buy a strike partner as kuyt now seems to be on the wing.
Buy
Villa - £25m
Bentley - £12m
Amantino Mancini - £4 million

As i have stated in the David Villa thread, i cant see him leaving Spain- however we are allowed to dream- just hope to god we bid for Bentley cause it would be an unbelievable signing- FINGERS CROSSED!

Out:
Kuyt £6m
Crouch £9m
Pennant £6m
Riise £4m

Profit: £25m

In:
Micah Richards £12m
Barry £5m+Carson
Villa £23m
Rodrigeuz £15m

Mmmmm 4 out 4 in and considerably boost our team...

I can't see Voronin generating much of a fee so i've left him out.  Also i wouldn't mind holding onto Benayoun as a squad player.

Out Riise 5m, Crouch 8m, kewell (free), Alonso 10m+, Voronin 4m, pennant or benayoun 7m, finnan 4m, Carson 9m: Total is 47m.
In Lahm 15m, Silva 15m, Barry 10m, Mancini 5m. Total:45 m. We will earn 2m DEAL!

MY starting XI will be
                                                    Reina
Carra./Arbeloa                   Hyypia/Skrtel                 Agger                    Lahm/aurelio

                                    Masch.                               Barry
Mancini/Kuyt                                                                                       Silva/babel
                                                       Gerrard

                                                       Torres

OUT:

Voronin - 2 million
Riise - 4 million
Finnan - 1 million

TOTAL: 7 + 30 million

Silva - 12 million
Mancini - 4 million
Zambrotta - 6 million
Barry - 10 million
Marcelo Moreno - 5 million

A squad very worth of winning the title.

OUT:

Voronin - 2 million
Riise - 4 million
Finnan - 1 million

TOTAL: 7 + 30 million

Silva - 12 million
Mancini - 4 million
Zambrotta - 6 million
Barry - 10 million
Marcelo Moreno - 5 million

A squad very worth of winning the title.

Sounds very good but only two things i think would stop us is prices of Silva and Zambrotta, i couldnt see Silva going for any less than £17-20 million even though valencia are in a terrible position in the league. And zambrotta just seems like he would be valued at more than £6 million. Other than that looks very good would be shocked and delighted to get silva at that price.

OK this looks fun actually:

Out

Voronin - 1 million (with some luck )
Crouch - 11 million
Riise - 5 miillion
Carson - 10 million
Xabi - 18 million (unfortuantly)
Itanje - 3 million
 
Total - 48 million

In

Mati Fernandez - 14 million
Philip Degan - Bosman
Steve Harper - 500k
Insua - 1 million (I think he is still on loan)
Henry Saivet - 500k
Gabriel Torje - 1 million
Lulinha - 18 million
Villa - 25 million
Micah Richards - 22 million

Net Spending - 28million (i think )

Out

Alonso 14 million :'(
carson 6 million
Riise 5 million
Pennant 3 million
Crouch 9 million
Voronin 1 million 
Kewell 4 million

total 42 million + 30 million=

72 million total

In

Barry 6 million
Ashley Young 12 million
Bentley 15 million
Villa 17 million
Silva 7 million
Benzema 8 million
Michael Johnson 7 million

Think it adds up!!!!!!!!!!

I think that a 30m pound budget is very reasonable and feel that will probably be about the sort of figure DIC will put straight into the squad. Which added with the outgoing players will add up to just over 50m.  Obviously a lot will depend on the players available and the prices, if some very good offers will be available then maybe we may see that little extra push, after all I will expect to firstly make sure of the stadium.  Throwing too much money on arrival will inflate our future purchases.  Obviously if the Americans are still here then at best I only expect 30m including the revenue from players sold.

Outgoings

Crouch - if he doesn’t sign = £10m
Riise = £4m
Carson = £8m
Voronin = £2m
Pennant = £5m
Kewell = £00 But a massive burden off our medical bill and a saving of £3m in wages.

Total 29m

IN

Bentley – Must make sure of this deal = £14m
Barry -  £12m

Manchini - £4m
David Villa - £25m – Dreaming a little though!
 
TOTAL = £55M


If we don’t get villa and Mancini and keep Crouch, get a world class left winger.

Out

Alonso 14 million :'(
carson 6 million
Riise 5 million
Pennant 3 million
Crouch 9 million
Voronin 1 million 
Kewell 4 million

total 42 million + 30 million=

72 million total

In

Barry 6 million
Ashley Young 12 million
Bentley 15 million
Villa 17 million
Silva 7 million
Benzema 8 million
Michael Johnson 7 million

Think it adds up!!!!!!!!!!

If only the transfer market was as you picture it you may have devalued some people there... the benzama and silva values did make me chuckle a bit david bently was spot on though

If only the transfer market was as you picture it you may have devalued some people there... the benzama and silva values did make me chuckle a bit david bently was spot on though

. To be honest i was just really making a list of the players i'd like us to go for. I wasnt really thinking much about the prices. I atill stick with my outgoing players. More realisticly i reckon

20 million for Villa
15 million for Bentley
9 million for Johnson
16 milion for Barry


Any better???

. To be honest I was just really making a list of the players I'd like us to go for. I wasnt really thinking much about the prices. I atill stick with my outgoing players. More realisticly I reckon

20 million for Villa
15 million for Bentley
9 million for Johnson
16 milion for Barry


Any better???

Perfect mate

OK this looks fun actually:

Out

Voronin - 1 million (with some luck )
Crouch - 11 million
Riise - 5 miillion
Carson - 10 million
Xabi - 18 million (unfortuantly)
Itanje - 3 million
 
Total - 48 million

In

Mati Fernandez - 14 million
Philip Degan - Bosman
Steve Harper - 500k
Insua - 1 million (I think he is still on loan)
Henry Saivet - 500k
Gabriel Torje - 1 million
Lulinha - 18 million
Villa - 25 million
Micah Richards - 22 million

Net Spending - 28million (i think )

You have been playing way too much football manager mate, I'm not accepting any other explanation for suggesting Torje, Saivet & Lulinha (all turn out to be superstars in the game for anyone that doesn't play FM).

With 30 million to spend and selling off some players to increase purchasing power, I would do the following:

Sell:

Steve Finnan for £6m
Jermaine Pennant £7m
Andryl Voronin for £3m
John A. Riise for £7m
Carson for £9m
 
TOTAL = £32m

Buy:

Rafhina for £8m
Gareth Barry for £12m
Ashley Young for £15m
David Bentley for £15m
Santa Cruz £12m

Total £62m

My Preferred line-up!

                                          Reina

Rafhina/Abreloa   Carragher/Hyypia   Skrtel/Agger    Aurelio/Insua/Barry

                        Mascherano/Barry       Alonso/Plesis

Bentley/Benanyun     Gerrard       Young/Babel

                      Torres/Crouch/Santa Cruz

The areas where we need the main focus right now is in the wings. An additional Striker will further increase our winning options.

Santa Cruz would be a brilliant player to have at liverpool, he has just been overshadowed this season by the performances of torres and ronaldo but of the top of my head hasn't he scored about 12 or 15 in the league which isn't bad for a first season in the premiership.

Santa Cruz would be a brilliant player to have at liverpool, he has just been overshadowed this season by the performances of torres and ronaldo but of the top of my head hasn't he scored about 12 or 15 in the league which isn't bad for a first season in the premiership.

Last i checked, 18 goals and counting.

Sell
Voronin - 3 million
JAR - 6 million
Finnan - 4 million
Itandje - 2 million
Crouch - 10 million
Alonso - 12 million

37 MILLION

Buy
Abidal - 9 Million
Richards - 20 Million
Ireland - 7 Million
Bentley - 15 Million
Barry - 8 Million (Plus Carson)
Santa Cruz - 8 Million

67 MILLION

30 MILLION

Formation

                                              Reina/Martin

Richards/Arbeloa    Carragher/Hypiia          Agger/Skrtel     Aurelio/Abidal


Bentley/Pennant     Gerrard/Lucas     Mascherano/Ireland/Plessis   Barry/Benayoun

                                
                               Torres/Kuyt            Santa Cruz/Babel

More than I thought but the problem is would Mark Hughes sell him to us because last week he said he would rather let bentley rot in the reserves than sell him to us so would he do the same with him

More than I thought but the problem is would Mark Hughes sell him to us because last week he said he would rather let bentley rot in the reserves than sell him to us so would he do the same with him

This might be the beginning of a new positioning by managers of the 'Remaining 16' clubs; The Holding-on-to-our-quality-players mentality. I wont be surprised if he acted like that. They want to grow too.

Fairly sure that around £40 million was promised to Benitez.  Actually before you think the Yanks are being generous that £40 million was extracted from the £350 million loan - you know the one that isn't building a new stadium.

Erm, and we're paying £30 million interest a year.

Anyhows moving on.  We have a lot of players who can be sold for value - just like last summer.  I would imagine we could get at least £25 million for some of the outgoing players such as Crouch, Kuyt, Pennant etc.

Finnan's finished, and it seems like everyone on here accepts that Barry is coming.  If he becomes a red then fair enough, but I really do not see th point in us purchasing yet another player of that ilk.  I'd rather have Bentley than Barry - a position we really require strength in.

Out

Alonso 14 million :'(
carson 6 million
Riise 5 million
Pennant 3 million
Crouch 9 million
Voronin 1 million 
Kewell 4 million
total 42 million + 30 million=

72 million total

In

Barry 6 million
Ashley Young 12 million
Bentley 15 million
Villa 17 million
Silva 7 million
Benzema 8 million
Michael Johnson 7 million

Think it adds up!!!!!!!!!!

KEWELL IS OUT OF A CONTRACT! 

Sounds very good but only two things I think would stop us is prices of Silva and Zambrotta, I couldnt see Silva going for any less than £17-20 million even though valencia are in a terrible position in the league. And zambrotta just seems like he would be valued at more than £6 million. Other than that looks very good would be shocked and delighted to get silva at that price.

Just tried to squeeze him in with the budget He would go for 15 million otherwise.

As for Zambrotta, apparently he will move to AC for 5.5 million pounds. So i was being a tad overwhelming there.

Going by the recent development of Rafa's preference for he Premiership based players, I think we will have a few inclusion into the team in he summer; mainly Gareth Barry, David Bentley and Roque Santa Cruz.

Just tried to squeeze him in with the budget He would go for 15 million otherwise.

As for Zambrotta, apparently he will move to AC for 5.5 million pounds. So I was being a tad overwhelming there.

Hehe would be great if we could get them both, seriously cant wait for this all to be sorted.

You have been playing way too much football manager mate, I'm not accepting any other explanation for suggesting Torje, Saivet & Lulinha (all turn out to be superstars in the game for anyone that doesn't play FM).

: caught.

but i have seen torje for romania he is actually very good and i saw some lulinha vids on youtube along with saivet, but FM is my origianl souce

Ok I'll have a shot at this.

OUT:                                                               IN:
Kewell (free)                                                     Rafinha      8mil
Crouch-sorry to sell but 13mil                               Degen      (free)
Voronin- 2mil                                                     Henry        6mil
JAR- 6mil                                                           Cole        14mil                                   
Pennant- 8mil                                                    David Villa 25mil                     
Carson- 8mil                                                       Bentley    14mil
Finnan- 3mil                                                       
Lucas- 8mil

Total 40mil +30mil= 70mil                                  Total 67mil.

Leaving our Formation..
                                         Reina/Itandje
Rafinha               Carra/Skrtel                   Agger/Hypia         Aurelio/Degen
                                             Masch
Bentley/Benayoun               Gerrard/Alonso                     Cole/Babel
                          Torres/Henry                    David Villa/Kuyt

Ok. Obviously you're not going to be able to sign that amount of players and sell that amount of players without financial backing from Mr. Hicks and Gillette/DIC. But Assuming we did this is what I would do.
I've brought in a few players who are already proven such as Henry, Cole, bentley in the Premie League.
And other players of quality- rafinha, and Villa.
I've not really gone out and bought back-up players, because I feel LFC needs quality players now to make a serious challenge for the league.

hey fletch_rox, i disagree with u, whats wrong with lucas, he is a good young player and why the hell would u buy henry, leave him at barca he can stay there for a while, let someone else win the top scorer

i think we should get rid of Crouch and buy Silva as well as Villa and also get rid of Kuyt

There is my opinion and fletch_rox you gotta kick a goal tomorow

Haydzrox I agree about getting rid of Kuyt, but Rafa likes him tactically, while I don't.
Henry would add experience to our team, and if he won top scorer that would mean we had won the league.
Are you injured? Did you do something to your leg mate? I heard you were in a wheel chair? True or not?

i think we should also get rid of Benayoun cause i hate him........

Yeh i did get a wheelchair from the function center to the nurse place, it was awesome!!! ollie was giving me monos!

Benayoun is a good player. (at times)

yeh but i still hate apart from when he gets hat tricks (which was once) i liked him after that game

Ok I'll have a shot at this.

OUT:                                                               IN:
Kewell (free)                                                     Rafinha      8mil
Crouch-sorry to sell but 13mil                               Degen      (free)
Voronin- 2mil                                                     Henry        6mil
JAR- 6mil                                                           Cole        14mil                                   
Pennant- 8mil                                                    David Villa 25mil                    
Carson- 8mil                                                       Bentley    14mil
Finnan- 3mil                                                      
Lucas- 8mil

Total 40mil +30mil= 70mil                                  Total 67mil.

I have to disagree with some things here. I dont think that Finnan will be sold and if he is 3mill is alot for a player of his age IMO. Also if theirry Henry arrives for 6million then penguins will fly if you know what i mean.  i think you just ran out of funds also i dont really like j.cole but i supose thats your opinion. Also the signing of Degan means that Rafinha would be uncalled for IMO. But other than that i agree with you

yeh but i still hate apart from when he gets hat tricks (which was once) i liked him after that game

Ah, here's the typical glory hunter, very apparent in lots of football fans nowadays. I think Benayoun is an intelligent player although he has his shortcomings overall quality. But throughout season he has played as a backup to the 3 attacking midfielders in the squad and he has been a good backup. The hattrick goes to justify what he is capable of. I have yet to see him play an absolute horror of a performance this season he scores goals, he assists so I am very surprised that someone would come out to say they HATE him. That's an incredible injustice to players who worked hard for the team. Be more reasonable please.

Ah, here's the typical glory hunter, very apparent in lots of football fans nowadays. I think Benayoun is an intelligent player although he has his shortcomings overall quality. But throughout season he has played as a backup to the 3 attacking midfielders in the squad and he has been a good backup. The hattrick goes to justify what he is capable of. I have yet to see him play an absolute horror of a performance this season he scores goals, he assists so I am very surprised that someone would come out to say they HATE him. That's an incredible injustice to players who worked hard for the team. Be more reasonable please.

Totally agree, great post. Was thinking that myself when i read his post.

Ah, here's the typical glory hunter, very apparent in lots of football fans nowadays. I think Benayoun is an intelligent player although he has his shortcomings overall quality. But throughout season he has played as a backup to the 3 attacking midfielders in the squad and he has been a good backup. The hattrick goes to justify what he is capable of. I have yet to see him play an absolute horror of a performance this season he scores goals, he assists so I am very surprised that someone would come out to say they HATE him. That's an incredible injustice to players who worked hard for the team. Be more reasonable please.

Exactly.. totally agree too.. Benayoun is a good squad player to have esp when we need that little magic to unlock stubborn defences..

I think we should also get rid of Benayoun cause I hate him........

Yeh I did get a wheelchair from the function center to the nurse place, it was awesome!!! ollie was giving me monos!

How can you possibly say "you hate Benayoun" as others have said he's a good squad player, not the best I agree, but has done his bit when called upon by Rafa, works hard and doesn't shirk his responsibilities  and he is a very nifty player.

A bit more loyalty wouldn't go amiss to a player who has worked hard for the team this season.

David Bentley has been in the Newz Bar on numerous occassions this year sparking speculation that he will move to anfield in the summer however. The agents of Ricardo Quaresma also stayed in Liverpool during the january transfer window.

John arne Riise, Jermaine Pennant, Peter Crouch and Xabi Alonso will move in the summer as they are "not needed" for the new campaign. The imminent arrival of Gareth Barry will provide a replacement for Alonso as a Defensve Midfielder and he can also compensate for the loss of J.A.R even though we have Aurelio and promising youngster Insua at left Back.

Quaresma or Bentley will provide a straight replacement for pennant suggesting that Benitez wants to play with out and out wingers and go back to 4-4-2.

A striker with the quality of Jan Klaas Huntelaar may also arrive and push Dirk Kuyt for a starting place while the arrival of a out and out left winger wouldnt Surprise me.

Hope this has been of use to you all

excatly haydzrox, how can you hate him??

I have to disagree with some things here. I dont think that Finnan will be sold and if he is 3mill is alot for a player of his age IMO. Also if theirry Henry arrives for 6million then penguins will fly if you know what I mean.  I think you just ran out of funds also I dont really like j.cole but I supose thats your opinion. Also the signing of Degan means that Rafinha would be uncalled for IMO. But other than that I agree with you

No I seriously thought that Henry was a possiblity for 6million, and Finnan for 3mil. I think Cole is a great player.
But if we signed Rafinha, he could start in the 11, degen as back-up, I mean he was only a bosman so he could play as a back-up.

I think 1 million for Finnan and its a great deal. He's 32 (?) and coming towards the end. Henry for 6 is a very small possibility but with the circumstances at Barca you never know.

Rafa doesn't like spending big money on more than one player, so you guys can keep on dreaming of all those big name signings.
Check quality players available on free transfers and have a look at youth teams in Spain and South America, then you'll have a better idea of whose coming to Anfield.
David Bentley and Gareth Barry would be two great signings, remember, when Liverpool fills the England team, then both both teams are successful.
Remember our reserves conquered all before them this season, Nemeth, Jordy, Insua, Plessis, Pacheco, El Zhar they are all ready. Leto and Paletta too.
We don't need Mancini and David Silva is rated way higher than you guys are estimating.
Kun Aguero would be the perfect signing and he has said in the past he would love to play for Liverpool.

Rafa doesn't like spending big money on more than one player, so you guys can keep on dreaming of all those big name signings.

Kun Aguero would be the perfect signing and he has said in the past he would love to play for Liverpool.

Contradicted yourself there my friend.

Simple as

In

Diego - 15 million
Bently - 10 million
Marcelo Moreno - 3 million
Huntelaar - 15 million
Rafinha - 3 million
Michael Johnson - 10 million + Hyypia

Total - 56 million

Out (Shake it all about)*

Crouch - 10-15 million
JAR - 6 million
Voronin 2 million
Kuyt - 7 million
Kewell - 7 million
Itandje - 10 million
Hyypia (thnks for all the memories but you are getting too old) - 5 million

Maximum Total - 52 million

Up from the youth and reserves

Dean Martin - free
Jack Hobbs - free
Insua - free
Nemeth - free

This leaves us with 26 million to spend on other areas or for January when we know what players we need to win the title

you may disagree but I think that that is the squad that could win us the league and more

*sorry

Simple as

In

Diego - 15 million
Bently - 10 million
Marcelo Moreno - 3 million
Huntelaar - 15 million
Rafinha - 3 million
Michael Johnson - 10 million + Hyypia

Total - 56 million

Out (Shake it all about)*

Crouch - 10-15 million
JAR - 6 million
Voronin 2 million
Kuyt - 7 million
Kewell - 7 million
Itandje - 10 million
Hyypia (thnks for all the memories but you are getting too old) - 5 million

Maximum Total - 52 million

Up from the youth and reserves

Dean Martin - free
Jack Hobbs - free
Insua - free
Nemeth - free

This leaves us with 26 million to spend on other areas or for January when we know what players we need to win the title

you may disagree but I think that that is the squad that could win us the league and more

*sorry

 :

(Do I get a bonus for spotting this first?)

Has anyone else spotted that the Hicks way of investing £30 million in players is going to happen just like in other transfer periods? Rumours have it that Alonso could be out for £20 million, Crouchy for £10-15 million, JAR for £3-6 million, making a total amount of £35-40 million..... Strangely close to the amount of money he is "investing" in new talent, no?  :

:

(Do I get a bonus for spotting this first?)

Well you do now! 

Taxi for curse!!!    

Remember our reserves conquered all before them this season, Nemeth, Jordy, Insua, Plessis, Pacheco, El Zhar they are all ready. Leto and Paletta too.

I think you'll find that Paletta doesn't even play for us any more 

Rafa sold him last year, now plays for Boca Juniors.

Kun Aguero would be the perfect signing and he has said in the past he would love to play for Liverpool.

Won't be any different from your "highly rated" list of Villa, Silva, Mancini etc. He doesn't cost just a penny you know..

Would like to see luis garcia return, but is it possible?

I would just give my money to Rafa. I'd go "Here you go, you've led us to two Champions League finals spend it how you will". Trust the expertise of Rafa

Simple as

In

Diego - 15 million
Bently - 10 million
Marcelo Moreno - 3 million
Huntelaar - 15 million
Rafinha - 3 million
Michael Johnson - 10 million + Hyypia

Total - 56 million

Out (Shake it all about)*

Crouch - 10-15 million
JAR - 6 million
Voronin 2 million
Kuyt - 7 million
Kewell - 7 million
Itandje - 10 million
Hyypia (thnks for all the memories but you are getting too old) - 5 million

Maximum Total - 52 million

Up from the youth and reserves

Dean Martin - free
Jack Hobbs - free
Insua - free
Nemeth - free

This leaves us with 26 million to spend on other areas or for January when we know what players we need to win the title

you may disagree but I think that that is the squad that could win us the league and more

*sorry

Ok dude, seriously. Like Ayrton said KEWELL IS GOING ON A FREE... (sorry for the caps)
Hypia resigned his contract, and he can't go for Michael Johson and 10mil, AND for 5mil.
10mil for Itandje? and keep Carson? You'd be lucky to get 10mil for Carson who's a better goalie, and not as good as bench warming.
Ok Rafinha 3mil??! surely not, more like 6-8mil.

looking at alternative forwards

if crouch goes we need somebody with physical/height presence... I would maybe look at these

ashton
bent
m owen (cheap)
heskey (as a sub) he's better than voranin (cheap)
that good bburn striker
carew

buy:
obi Mikel, Lennon, mcgeady, aguero, Micah Richard..
they are talanted player and good for liverpool future

sell:
voronin, kewel , pennant, crouch, finnan,
i think keep riise in the club. he value able for the club

buy:
obi Mikel, Lennon, mcgeady, aguero, Micah Richard..
they are talanted player and good for liverpool future

sell:
voronin, kewel , pennant, crouch, finnan,
I think keep riise in the club. he value able for the club

We won't be able to buy Obi Mikel without being ripped off.
Aguero we wont get. Or Lennon, or Micah Richards.
Kewell is going as he is out of contract, I would personally sell Riise.

For 30mil if that is witout selling players I would be considering at this point in time.

Out: Kewell (free)                                   IN:Dossena (7mil)
Voronin(anything)                                        Degen(Free)
Riise(4mil)                                                   Quaresma(20mil)
Crouch(15mil)                                              David Villa(20mil)
Pennant(6mil)                                              Barry(11mil)
Finnan(2mil)                                                 
Aurelio(4mil)
Carson(8mil)

Total:31mil+30mil=61mil spending.
Thats 58mil of spending, so that leaves 11mil which I would spend on a couple of quality youth players.

With these signings I would change back to either 3-2-3-2 or 4-4-2,
3-2-3-2 is a unusual formation and its something like this (with the players I would buy)

                                                Reina
                     Carra                    Agger             Skrtel
                               Masch                Alonso/Barry
                  Quaresma              Gerrard                         Babel/Barry
                             Torres                    David Villa.

Subs: Babel/Alonso/Barry, Dossena, Degen, Kuyt, Benayoun.
Almost subs but not quite: Insua, Arbeloa.

the 4-4-2 would be simple..

                                                            Reina
          Arbeloa/Degen        Carra/Skrtel            Agger/Skrtel         Dossena/Insua
          Quaresma              Masch                    Stevie                  Barry/Babel
                                    Torres                     Daid Villa

subs:Alonso, Kuyt, Benayoun, Skrtel/Agger/Carra(form+fitness depending), Insua/Dossena/Arbeloa/Degen(form+fitness)

signings: denilson ,rafael van der vart ,borre ,denilson, aguero , aoran lennon, stewart downing, oscar ustari (argentina), micah richard ,christian zapata(udinese)

sell: voronin, riise, pennant, crouch, finnan, xabi,  :

Give me that Fifa and go to bed

signings: denilson ,rafael van der vart ,borre ,denilson, aguero , aoran lennon, stewart downing, oscar ustari (argentina), micah richard ,christian zapata(udinese)

sell: voronin, riise, pennant, crouch, finnan, xabi,  :

We need to be realistic here mate. I don't think there's any way we're going to make ten signings over the summer, and even if we did I wouldn't want Downing in my top ten list anyway. You've been darting about on the transfer board saying "sign him", "sell him" all over the place, but if you want people to take your opinions seriously you need to give a bit more information: why you want a player, what you think he could bring to the team, things like that.

I initially started this thread as a bit of a laugh, for people to give their opinions on how we could change our squad and starting XI for this much money. It was the idea to step into Rafa's shoes a little bit to appreciate how difficult it is nowadays to put together a complete team with quality back-up with the escalating prices clubs are asking for players nowadays. Whilst it was for a giggle, I was hoping people would justify their "buys" and "sales", and back them up with realistic transfer fees, not just put together a mish-mash of famous players or ones who are good on computer games.

If you aren't bothered it doesn't matter, but there are general discussion threads for possible signings and outgoing player threads for... well, it's self-explanitory really! Rant over!

Outs

Kewell - free
Crouchaldinho - 12M
Riise - 5M
Carson - 7M
Voronin - bottle of whiskey, maybe a couple glasses with it.
JP - 6M
Alonso - 15M
---------------------
45 + 30 = 84M
84M = happy rafa


Ins
Dossena - 8M (In Rafa we Trust)
Degen - free  ( "    "     "     "   )
Bentley - 12M (we need someone who can cross the ball & rotate with Kuyt out on the right)
Barry - 13M (only because O'Neil is bitter and will make sure he costs more than we get for Crouchie. Our replacement for Alonso)
Roque Santa Cruz - 12M OR Mario Gomez - 20M (with Crouch and Voronin out we need depth behind Torres and Babel)
N'Zogbia - 5M (depth, seems like a good young talent for the cost)
---------------------------------
= 26M left

Why are some people trying to sell off Finnan, i think hes done a great job for the club ,and will do in the future.

Its surprised me that so many people are adamant on letting him go for a mere few mil when apart from injury effected last season he has been Mr consistent.  I would have thought he would at least be given another season to prove that he still has what it takes to play at the very top.

Its surprised me that so many people are adamant on letting him go for a mere few mil when apart from injury effected last season he has been Mr consistent.  I would have thought he would at least be given another season to prove that he still has what it takes to play at the very top.

I guess some see the arrival of Degen a good bye message to Finn.

Yeh, but he hasn't kicked a ball yet and Finnan hasn't been given a chance to compete with him!

Outs

Kewell - free
Crouchaldinho - 12M
Riise - 5M
Carson - 7M
Voronin - bottle of whiskey, maybe a couple glasses with it.
JP - 6M
Alonso - 15M
---------------------
45 + 30 = 84M
84M = happy rafa


Ins
Dossena - 8M (In Rafa we Trust)
Degen - free  ( "    "     "     "   )
Bentley - 12M (we need someone who can cross the ball & rotate with Kuyt out on the right)
Barry - 13M (only because O'Neil is bitter and will make sure he costs more than we get for Crouchie. Our replacement for Alonso)
Roque Santa Cruz - 12M OR Mario Gomez - 20M (with Crouch and Voronin out we need depth behind Torres and Babel)
N'Zogbia - 5M (depth, seems like a good young talent for the cost)
---------------------------------
= 26M left

i wish it was that easy

Outs

Kewell-free
Riise-4mill
Crouch-10mill
Voronin-1mill
Pennant-6mill
Finnan-1mill
Carson-8mill
Alonso-15mill
=45mill+30mill=75mill
InsDavid Silva-20mill
Degen-Free
Dossena-7mill
David Villa-25mill
Van Der Vaart-15mill
Lennon-8mill

Ok here we go ive had a few months since my last post here now for the revised edition and im going to be as honest as possible here aswell, so theres no selling of voronin for a cheap million or selling carson for 12mill etc.


Outs:  60mill total

Kewell - Free
Riise - 4mill
Carson - 7mill
Itanje - 2mill (that is if he has gone to galatasary)
Crouch - 12mill
Pennant - 5mill


IN'S:

Silva - 17mill
Degan - Free
Dossena - 7mill
Harper - 1mill
Villa - 30mill

Total 55mill

Then the 5mill to spend on youth such as mattock for 1mill etc.

I wish it was that easy

Really? I was trying to be reasonable, I just had way too much to spend. I wish it was this easy.

Outs

Kewell - free
Crouchaldinho - 12M
Riise - 5M
Carson - 7M
Voronin - bottle of whiskey, maybe a couple glasses with it.
JP - 6M
Alonso - 15M
---------------------
45 + 30 = 84M
84M = happy rafa

Ins
Villa 30M
Silva 20M
Quaresma 20M
Dossena 8M
--------------------
78M gone like Abramovich

But if I wanted to root for a team that tries to buy a championship I would root for Man U or Chelsea.

Out
Carson-8Mil
Alonso-15mil
Arbelouo-7mil
Crouch-15mil
Veronin-2mil
Kuyt-6mil
Riise-5mil
Pennant-6mil

64mil+30mil=94mil

In
Sergio Ramos-25mil
Quaresma-20mil
Villa-20mil
Dossena-8mil
Arshevin-15mil
and give 6mil to the team that takes Veronin just to say thank you for taking the useless c*nt.

Out
Carson-8Mil
Alonso-15mil
Arbelouo-7mil
Crouch-15mil
Veronin-2mil
Kuyt-6mil
Riise-5mil
Pennant-6mil

64mil+30mil=94mil

In
Sergio Ramos-25mil
Quaresma-20mil
Villa-20mil
Dossena-8mil
Arshevin-15mil
and give 6mil to the team that takes Veronin just to say thank you for taking the useless c*nt.

Keep that 6 million for a shrink.

Out:
Finnan 2m (if he wants though he doesn't)
Voronin Happy meal + $1
Crouch 12+m
Pennant 6+m
Itandje 2m
Carson 8+
Kewell (already gone for free)
Riise 4m (gone)
total : 34m+ & a Happy meal!

30+30= 64m for rafa

In:
Degen free IRWT
Dossena 8m IRWT
Silva 20m
Keane 12-13m
Barry (Only for 10m or nothing!)
And if we keep alonso he will be like signing a new player!
Any keeper for 1m as back up.
Total:52m and the rest leave it for january if needed for a back up.

DEAL!

Ok, new here but here is my opinion for what it's worth:

Out
Riise +4m
Alonso +16m (only coz it looks like he's already gone)
Itandje +2m
Carson +5m
Pennant +5m
Crouch - Swap inc cash

TOTAL 32m (16m without Alonso)

In
Degen - Free
Dossena - 8m
Barry - 15m
Keane - 5m +Crouch (Will be awesome in between Stevie and Nando IMO)
Keeper? (anyone 4m or less and who will be happy on the bench and can actually push Pepe a bit)

Total 32m

IMO this would give Rafa loads of options, for both positions and formations, for relatively little outlay and he would still be able to accommodate the best of the current squad most games.  How does this look for a first team squad (also plenty of youngsters to be bed in during the early cup rounds):

Left Backs - Barry/ Aurelio/ Arbeloa/ Insua/ Dossena
Centre Backs - Carragher/ Skrtel/ Agger/ Hyypia/ Arbeloa
RightBacks - Arbeloa/ Degen/ Finnan/ Carragher
LeftMid - Barry/ Babel/ Benayoun/ Keane
Centre Mid - Gerrard/ Mascherano/ Lucas/ Barry/ (I’d love Alonso to stay as well)
Right Mid - Benayoun/ Babel/ Gerrard/ Kuyt
Attacking Mid-2ndstriker - Gerrard/ Babel/ Benayoun/ Keane   
Strikers - Torres/ Kuyt/ Babel/ Keane

Out
Carson-8Mil
Alonso-15mil
Arbelouo-7mil
Crouch-15mil
Veronin-2mil
Kuyt-6mil
Riise-5mil
Pennant-6mil

64mil+30mil=94mil

In
Sergio Ramos-25mil
Quaresma-20mil
Villa-20mil
Dossena-8mil
Arshevin-15mil
and give 6mil to the team that takes Veronin just to say thank you for taking the useless c*nt.

im sorry but there are soo many mistakes here im not going to correct them all. But you valuating Kuyt at 6mill angers me 

OUT:
Riise - 4M
Alonso - 15M
Crouch - 9M

This now leaves 58M

IN:
Dossena - 8M
Degen - Free
Villa - 25M
Silva - 25M

Sorted

Yeh, but he hasn't kicked a ball yet and Finnan hasn't been given a chance to compete with him!

But mate seriously, three defenders for one place? I really dont think thats going to work. We signed a new left back and look what happened to Riise. We've signed Degen and either Finnan or Arbeloa are going. I know Finnan is a good player but seen as he is a good player I think he'll be wanting to play consistently every week. Look at how unhappy Momo got last season with five central midfielders. Something similar will happen to either Finnan or Arbeloa and one will leave. Personally I think its Finnan because he is the oldest.

For me it's not that hard.

Out: Crouch,Alonso,Pennant,Kewell,Riise,Voronin,Itandje,Carson

In: Degen,Dossena,Barry,Keane + Back up keeper.

Happy days.

For me it's not that hard.

Out: Crouch,Alonso,Pennant,Kewell,Riise,Voronin,Itandje,Carson

In: Degen,Dossena,Barry,Keane + Back up keeper.

Happy days.

No, not happy days. With that we have no right winger, no left winger and 3 right backs.

Unless you want Babel and Benayoun to play in those positions well then its the Intertoto Cup we go to get into Europe.