Our Formation With Suarez & Carroll?

No no no to Agger as left back. The best centerback we have.

Arent we supposed to link our strongest starting XI?
             Carrol                Kuyt
                       Suarez
               Meireles       Gerrard
                          Lucas
Johnson    Agger            Carragher        Kelly
                             Reina
Meireles as a offensiv midfielder and Kuyt playing the best way he knows, running around confusing the defenders and then making an impact.

Arent we supposed to link our strongest starting XI?
             Carrol                Kuyt
                       Suarez
               Meireles       Gerrard
                          Lucas
Johnson    Agger            Carragher        Kelly
                             Reina
Meireles as a offensiv midfielder and Kuyt playing the best way he knows, running around confusing the defenders and then making an impact.

Doesn't look too bad to me at all.. Without the acquisition of a wide player or two this is probably our strongest squad??

Have to give Damien, Kenny and Co maximum respect.

These two are showing that they are going to be unplayable.


Got any more out there?

Would love to see this formation.

                       Foster

         Kelly          Cahill          Agger
                                              
    johnson                                    enrique
                         Gerrard

          Meireles     sneijder         suarez

                          carroll

subs: carra, shelvey, adam, pecheco, gyan.

Sadly, I think pepe is going so that is why foster as keeper.

sales: Konchesky (2m), cole (5m), kyrgiakos (1m), maxi (2m), ngog (2m), poulson (quid), skrtel (10m), aquilani (12m ?), reina (20m).
Thats 54 million and a quid plus 1.6 m we get from olympiacos winning the greek league with riera. 55.6m and a quid.
Bringin in foster, sneijder, cahill, adam and gyan. Not sure how much they would all cost but this would be my dream.  



















        
 
                        
          
        

          

          
          

                  

        
            

Why would you buy a keeper not deemed good enough for the mancs?

And I'd only get shut of Reina if he really wants to go, would be a bonus if he came out and said he was staying. Keeper position wouldn't have to be worried about then.

Joe Hart!

Foster is a poor goal keeper.

Joe Hart!

No chance City would get rid or let him go to us.

Would love to see this formation.

                       Foster

         Kelly          Cahill          Agger
                                             
    johnson                                    enrique
                         Gerrard

          Meireles     sneijder         suarez

                          carroll

subs: carra, shelvey, adam, pecheco, gyan.

Sadly, I think pepe is going so that is why foster as keeper.

sales: Konchesky (2m), cole (5m), kyrgiakos (1m), maxi (2m), ngog (2m), poulson (quid), skrtel (10m), aquilani (12m ?), reina (20m).
Thats 54 million and a quid plus 1.6 m we get from olympiacos winning the greek league with riera. 55.6m and a quid.
Bringin in foster, sneijder, cahill, adam and gyan. Not sure how much they would all cost but this would be my dream. 

Hell no! Especially not Foster. Major drop in quality if Reina was to leave and we was to sign Foster. Gerrard the deepest of the midfield? Thats not going to work. Good luck on signing Sneijder by the way. Sunderland won't sell Gyan because otherwise they won't have hardly any decent strikers left.

I never once said he was "poor" though and you should know that through reading my post. I said it would be a major drop in quality which you should realise as being the truth unless you seem to think that Foster is as good as Reina? We should be targeting top quality keepers like Lloris. Lets be honest, being England keeper has only just become a good thing to be after Joe Hart took over the number 1 jersey. Every other keep before that after Seaman hasn't lived up to the occasion. Sneijder doesn't remind me of a player that would move to a club based on their traditional name and history. He fits into the category of a player that will move for Champions League football or more game time and he's getting both at Inter Milan and they're not far behind in the Italian League and that is always consistent every season. Asamoah Gyan is far better than Kenwyne Jones though. Jones isn't really much of a goalscorer compared to him either. Yes i agree Gerrard can play anywhere but it would be very careless of us to play him there on his own and rely on him to defend as much as he is going to have to in that position.

Well actually I said most often utilised which was wrong.  Suarez did however operate on the left of an attacking tridente the entirety of the WC (and the majority of the WCQs), Forlan playing as a trequartista doesn't change that.

Have to say, I'd have no qualms in Suarez being used on the left, he drifted out there against the Mancs and tore them a new one. The reason why I'd have no qualms is simple really: The lad has ability to play anywhere uptop and would do an excellent job wherever he is played.

I'm just thinking about defending through the middle, yes we would have 3 centre backs but by the time the opposition reach our centre backs they have time to shoot. We need a Mascherano type player who can grind teams down with challenges and then that enables the more advanced positioned players to attack when they see fit to do so. It's obvious that changing formations is not rocket science but my comments were based on the formation that you posted.

Andy Johnson is a forward, you mean Adam Johnson? And Bojan is a forward too

yea i did mean Adam Johnson - think I'd had a few as Bojan plays wing too but tbh dont think he'd cut it in the prem. Still unsure who Id want this summer except Contrecau or another young class Full Back.

I like all the formations listed I just hope we don't have this one:

             Pepe
      Carra  Agger
Kelly               Johnson
           Mereiles
     Kuyt Carroll Gerrard
            Suarez

Hoof them long and run off the big man. Can actually see this working though as Carroll so strong in the air but I just hope we don't look at this as the way forward.

Some strange formations here IMO.

In Carrol we have a big guy that is stronger than anybody in the air, but you dont want to play with wingers that leaves us playing the ball long from the middle, and if thats how we start playing I dont want to watch it.
..and Suarez is a STRIKER ffs, play him up front not on the left. Sounds to me like a lot of you have slipped into the Rafa way of thinking....buy a striker and play him on the flanks....If we are doing that why didnt we just buy a winger in the first place.?

Just in case I havent made my point clear I will spell it out...Carroll up front on his own leaves us with a long ball team, and you can shove that up yer arse.

In Carrol we have a big guy that is stronger than anybody in the air, but you dont want to play with wingers that leaves us playing the ball long from the middle

Why does playing with wingers leave us playing the ball long from the middle? That's not true.

..and Suarez is a STRIKER ffs, play him up front not on the left. Sounds to me like a lot of you have slipped into the Rafa way of thinking....buy a striker and play him on the flanks....If we are doing that why didnt we just buy a winger in the first place.?

Not completely true either. At Ajax Suarez mostly was played as a right winger/forward, that's how he scored most of his goals there. Doesn't belong on the left flank however. But I'd prefer if we'd buy other wingers, he's better as a free role 2nd striker.

I think if we get the right players in we can play a few different formations. I think 4-3-3 if we get someone like Levezzi, or 4-4-2 if we get a top midfielder. Hopefully we will have options and will see Kenny picking different formations for different opponents when necessary. 

Certainly I would expect us to play 4-2-3-1 with the players we have at the moment more often than not, with Suarez making it almost a 4-4-2 with his attacking play.   

I think our formation needs to be accommodating to when we have the ball and when we don't. A lot of suggested teams here leave a lot to be desired in the middle of the park, I'd like a 4231 when attacking and a shift back to the 451 when without the ball. With Kenny though we will never know the formation to expect 

As we all know we are desperate for some width and we are still trying to adapt to Carroll playing up top (Carra..........punts up field are NOT the way). Suarez looks like a class act and is just as dangerours cutting in from the left as playing central off another striker.

If we can get two out of Young, Johnson and Jarvis along with a creative centre midfielder like Adam the options for Kenny will be endless.

Would love to see this formation.

                       Foster

         Kelly          Cahill          Agger
                                             
    johnson                                    enrique
                         Gerrard

          Meireles     sneijder         suarez

                          carroll

subs: carra, shelvey, adam, pecheco, gyan.

Sadly, I think pepe is going so that is why foster as keeper.

sales: Konchesky (2m), cole (5m), kyrgiakos (1m), maxi (2m), ngog (2m), poulson (quid), skrtel (10m), aquilani (12m ?), reina (20m).
Thats 54 million and a quid plus 1.6 m we get from olympiacos winning the greek league with riera. 55.6m and a quid.
Bringin in foster, sneijder, cahill, adam and gyan. Not sure how much they would all cost but this would be my dream. 

Sorry but sh*te team and unrealistic in places.

Sneidjer to leave Inter for a team not in Champions League? Yeah good one!

Enrique as left back! Good enough for Newcastle, not Liverpool.

We dont need Gyan.

And you have clearly forgot the position we really need this summer. Wingers!!! Width is crucial.

                                  Reina

Johnson          Cahill                Agger             Baines

                   Meireles              Gerrard

Sanchez                                                     Young

                    Suarez
                                           Carroll

Hmmm ... I can dream, can't I?

Still think we need someone like Mascherano. Would be amazing if we can get a player who has Mascherano and Alonso qualities together!

 

                                 

Still think we need someone like Mascherano. Would be amazing if we can get a player who has Mascherano and Alonso qualities together!

 

Blaise Matuidi would be my choice mate.  Has the tackling abilty of Masch and the passing quality of Xabi.

My only addition to this thread is that we are clearly going to base our formation around our front two, so whatever formation allows them to play to their maximum potential is the one that will be used.

I've a 3-5-2 lined up here and a 4-3-3. Depending on whether we get the players I've put in.

                     Reina

     Kelly/Carra      Agger      Johnson
   
           Meireles             Gerrard

Young               Aquilani             A. Johnson

                 Suarez
                          Carroll

Obviously this depends on Aquilani coming home. If he doesn't stick Meireles in his position and Lucas beside Gerrard.

                Reina

Kelly/Carra      Agger    Skrtel/new CB     Johnson
 
                               
                        Gerrard
    Young                               A. Johnson

                        Meireles

              Suarez
                              Carroll

With both Kelly and Johnson adding extra support when attacking allowing our wingers to get further forward.

We can achieve these with 2-4 additions. 1 CB, 1LW, 1RW, and 1 attacking midfielder.

People keep mentioning Adam Johnson as a possibility. Why would Man City sell him to us, a team trying to knock them out of a CL position? They will only do so if they can rape us with an ugly price tag. At that point, surely there are better options for the money.

And InertObject, congrats on 2500 posts!