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      Reply #4209: Jan 22, 2014 11:40:11 am

      This is where I'll have a problem, Di Caprio, along with Clooney & Crowe, leave me cold.  Just never seem to enjoy watching films starring them.  Have the same kind of problem with the comedian Lee Evans, no idea why.


      Well, you'll hate it so.
      It's Di Caprio being crude, arrogant and loud.
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      Reply #4210: Jan 22, 2014 11:40:35 am

      This is where I'll have a problem, Di Caprio, along with Clooney & Crowe, leave me cold.  Just never seem to enjoy watching films starring them.  Have the same kind of problem with the comedian Lee Evans, no idea why.


      It's funny how we see things differently as I think Di Caprio has been one of the most consistently excellent actors around for a while.

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      Reply #4211: Jan 22, 2014 12:15:33 pm
      Jonah Hill admitted that he was paid the minimum amount of $60,000 for his role in the Wolf of Wall Street. Heck I bet he would have paid for the role by the way he talks about it. He just really wanted to star in a Scorsese flick. Now he has been rewarded with his first Oscar nom. Great performance's by both DiCaprio and himself to be fair. Highlight of the movie was the ham scene, it's insane how perfectly they both played it out. Must have been a nightmare to film  :laugh:
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      Reply #4212: Jan 22, 2014 12:20:03 pm
      Jonah Hill admitted that he was paid the minimum amount of $60,000 for his role in the Wolf of Wall Street. Heck I bet he would have paid for the role by the way he talks about it. He just really wanted to star in a Scorsese flick. Now he has been rewarded with his first Oscar nom. Great performance's by both DiCaprio and himself to be fair. Highlight of the movie was the ham scene, it's insane how perfectly they both played it out. Must have been a nightmare to film  :laugh:

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      Reply #4213: Jan 22, 2014 03:00:01 pm
      I worked in a similar boiler room type company to that of The Wolf of Wallstreet for a few days, allbeit a smaller and more realistic one. That was a weird experience. I quit as soon as I got a better understanding of what was going on.
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      Reply #4214: Jan 22, 2014 06:31:55 pm
      For those who haven't seen it

      http://putlocker.bz/watch-the-wolf-of-wall-street-online-free-putlocker.html

      Decent quality aswell.
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      Reply #4215: Jan 22, 2014 11:31:38 pm
      Big Trouble In Little China. 

      Weird one, unlikeable characters, wafer thin story, very poor script and acting in places and yet it's great fun.
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      Reply #4216: Jan 26, 2014 05:51:15 pm
      Wolf of Wall Street was disappointing. Not Scorsese's best work, nothing beats Goodfellas.

      I'd give it 7 stars, thought it would be more violent and crime than a comedy.
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      Reply #4217: Jan 26, 2014 06:56:02 pm
      Wolf of Wall Street was disappointing. Not Scorsese's best work, nothing beats Goodfellas.

      I'd give it 7 stars, thought it would be more violent and crime than a comedy.

      Thought it was decent enough and Jonah Hill was very funny in it for what, if you believe the reports, was the minimum fee he could receive for the movie. (Which is stated as $60,000)

      Margot Robbie though, erm what to say... Hugh Hefner wants her for the front cover of playboy after her performance and I can fully understand his views  >:D

      Watched Reasonable Doubt simply because it was Samuel L. Jackson, save your time so mine wasn't completely wasted and give it a miss.

      Captain Phillips - Not too bad a film, thought the ending was a little weak but I can see Tom Hanks winning many an award for his role, very convincing.

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      Reply #4218: Feb 05, 2014 05:12:11 am
      Seen a few flicks recently and put together a marks out of 10 and some crappy points about them.

      Wolf of Wall Street: 7/10 (Leo was epic, Hill is great and it's a roller coaster of a film. Scorsese should have directed The Great Gatsby)
      Philomena: 9/10 (awesome film…great script, direction and also Judi Dench is amazeballs)
      American Hustle: 6/10 (such a confused film. Great acting though. David O Russell is a great director, but this film was such a mess)
      Rush: 5/10 (i love america & most americans BUT an american director can never understand the majesty of F1!)
      Captain Philips: 8/10 (great direction in particular)
      Gravity: 9/10 (the reason why 3D was pushed forward into mainstream cinema)
      Blue Jasmine: 8/10 (Cate Blanchett was incredible. Great Woody Allen flick)
      Dallas Buyers Club: 7/10 (a tad overrated but Jared Leto is absolutely brilliant)
      Prisoners: 6/10 (good performances but is shot & directed like a TV movie)
      Lone Survivor: 5/10 (Mark Wahlberg is terrible once again. Poorly shot flick as well)

      Still have to watch my dvds of Her, Nebraska, 12 Years a Slave, Mandela, Inside Llewyn Davis and Beyond The Pines
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      Reply #4219: Feb 07, 2014 11:28:40 pm
      Terminator 1 & 2. ;D
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      Reply #4220: Feb 07, 2014 11:32:41 pm

      I still think the first is the better film.

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      Reply #4221: Feb 07, 2014 11:55:12 pm
      I still think the first is the better film.


      Without a shadow of a doubt.
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      Reply #4222: Feb 08, 2014 05:01:33 pm
      Watched RED 2, which was OK and a pretty good pisstake, and The Worlds End which was sh*te. I usually like Pegg and his fat mate, but this was just a film too far for the formula they put out.

      I have Enders Game and Riddick to watch later, or whenever.
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      Reply #4223: Feb 09, 2014 10:57:21 pm
      Lego Movie.

      Awesome. ;D
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      Reply #4224: Feb 10, 2014 12:08:27 am

      Bringing the young lad this weekend.
      Can. Not. Wait.
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      Reply #4225: Feb 10, 2014 08:53:13 am
      Bringing the young lad this weekend.
      Can. Not. Wait.

      He will love it and so will you mate.

      We were supposed to be going this weekend but just found out last night our local were showing previews so nipped up to see it.

      The beauty of having a cinema five minutes walk away.
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      Reply #4226: Feb 10, 2014 09:56:25 am
      He will love it and so will you mate.

      We were supposed to be going this weekend but just found out last night our local werer showing previews so nipped up to see it.

      The beauty of having a cinema five minutes walk away.

      It's only out this week for us.
      Good reviews, and it's got Batman.
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      Re: The Film Discussion Thread.
      Reply #4227: Feb 10, 2014 12:07:52 pm
      Watched Her some time ago, and I would recommend it, it's a great film.
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      Reply #4228: Feb 21, 2014 12:44:26 pm
      I was extremely interested in watching The Wolf of Wall Street weeks ago, until I read this "open letter" and felt not so sure anymore.

      What do you guys make of it?

      An Open Letter to the Makers of The Wolf of Wall Street, and the Wolf Himself
      BY CHRISTINA MCDOWELL

      I hate to be the bearer of bad news, dear Kings of Hollywood, but you have been conned.

      Let me introduce myself. My name is Christina McDowell, formerly Christina Prousalis. I am the daughter of Tom Prousalis, a man the Washington Post described as "just some guy on trial for penny-stock fraud." (I had to change my name after my father stole my identity and then threatened to steal it again, but I'll get to that part later.) I was 18 and a freshman in college when my father and his attorneys forced me to attend his trial at New York City's federal courthouse so that he "looked good" for the jury - the consummate family man.

      And you, Jordan Belfort, Wall Street's self-described Wolf: You remember my father, right? You were chosen to be the government's star witness in testifying against him. You had pleaded guilty to money laundering and securities fraud (it was the least you could do) and become a government witness in two dozen cases involving your former business associate, but my father's attorneys blocked your testimony because had you testified it would have revealed more than a half-dozen other corrupt stock offerings too. And, well, that would have been a disaster. It would have just been too many liars, and too many schemes for the jurors, attorneys or the judge to follow.

      But the record shows you and my father were in cahoots together with MVSI Inc. of Vienna, e-Net Inc. of Germantown, Md., Octagon Corp. of Arlington, Va., and Czech Industries Inc. of Washington, D.C., and so on - a list of seemingly innocuous, legitimate companies that stretches on. I'll spare you. Nobody cares. All of them were taken public by the Wolf of Wall Street's firm Stratton Oakmont Inc in order to defraud unwitting investors and enrich yourselves. [Editor's note: A correction was made to this paragraph; see note at the bottom of this post.]

      See also: 10 Reasons the Real-Life Wolf of Street Is a Schmuck Who Shouldn't Be Trusted

      As an 18-year-old, I had no idea what was going on. But then again, did anyone? Certainly your investors didn't - and they were left holding the bag when you cashed out your holdings and got rich off their money.

      So Marty and Leo, while you glide through press junkets and look forward to awards season, let me tell you the truth - what happened to my mother, my two sisters and me.

      The day my father had to surrender to prison, I drove him. My mother had locked herself in the bathroom crying and throwing up, becoming nothing short of a more beautiful version of Cate Blanchett in Blue Jasmine. Ironically enough, Marty, she looks like a cross between Sharon Stone and Michelle Pfeiffer. Totally your leading ingénue type. Anyhow, after my father successfully laundered money in my name, hiding what was left of our assets from the government in a Wells Fargo bank account, I arrived home to discover multiple phone calls from creditors and attorneys threatening to sue me. He'd left me in nearly $100,000 worth of debt. He left and never told me.

      After all of that liquidated money was gone from the Wells Fargo bank account, things got pretty bad. My younger sister ran away at 17. My older sister struggled to finish school in Texas. I couch-surfed for two years, sometimes dressing out of my car and stealing pieces of salami out of my boyfriends' refrigerators in the middle of the night, because I was so hungry and so ashamed that I couldn't feed myself. Tips at the restaurant weren't cutting it. It's a pretty confusing experience to go from flying private with Dad to an evening where he's begging you for a piece of your paycheck so he can buy food for dinner.

      But, here's the real kicker -

      I believed him.

      I believed everything my father told me. I believed it was the government's fault he was going to prison and leaving his little princess, I believed it was your fault, Jordan Belfort. I believed that by taking out all those credit cards in my name, my father was attempting to save me. I believed him when he got out, and when he told me everything would be OK. I believed him until he tried to do the same thing all over again - until I was at risk of being arrested myself (and I'm saving that story for the memoir).

      So here's the deal. You people are dangerous. Your film is a reckless attempt at continuing to pretend that these sorts of schemes are entertaining, even as the country is reeling from yet another round of Wall Street scandals. We want to get lost in what? These phony financiers' fun sexcapades and coke binges? Come on, we know the truth. This kind of behavior brought America to its knees.

      And yet you're glorifying it - you who call yourselves liberals. You were honored for career excellence and for your cultural influence by the Kennedy Center, Marty. You drive a Honda hybrid, Leo. Did you think about the cultural message you'd be sending when you decided to make this film? You have successfully aligned yourself with an accomplished criminal, a guy who still hasn't made full restitution to his victims, exacerbating our national obsession with wealth and status and glorifying greed and psychopathic behavior. And don't even get me started on the incomprehensible way in which your film degrades women, the misogynistic, ass-backwards message you endorse to younger generations of men.

      But hey, listen boys, I get it. I was conned, too. By. My. Own. Dad! I drove a white Range Rover in high school, snorted half of Colombia, and got any guy I ever wanted because my father would take them flying in his King Air.

      And then I unraveled the truth. The truth about my father and his behavior: that behind all of it was really just insidious soul-sucking shame masked by addiction, which we love to call ambition, which is really just greed. Greed and the desire for fame (exactly what you've successfully given self-appointed motivational speaker/financial guru Jordan Belfort, whose business opportunities will surely multiply thanks to this film).

      For me, it's become goddamn unbearable.

      But I refuse to give up.

      Belfort's victims, my father's victims, don't have a chance at keeping up with the Joneses. They're left destitute, having lost their life savings at the age of 80. They can't pay their medical bills or help send their children off to college because of characters like the ones glorified in Terry Winters' screenplay.

      Let me ask you guys something. What makes you think this man deserves to be the protagonist in this story? Do you think his victims are going to want to watch it? Did we forget about the damage that accompanied all those rollicking good times? Or are we sweeping it under the carpet for the sale of a movie ticket? And not just on any day, but on Christmas morning??

      So here's what I'm going to do first. I'm going to hand you my shame. Right now, in this very moment. The shame that I've been carrying for far too long as a result of being collateral damage. Because each of you should feel ashamed. And then I'm going to go pre-order my tickets to August: Osage County in support of Julia and Meryl - because, at least, as screwed up as that family is, they talk about the truth.

      I urge each and every human being in America NOT to support this film, because if you do, you're simply continuing to feed the Wolves of Wall Street.

      Yours truly,

      Christina McDowell

      PS. Quick update on Dad: He is now doing business with the Albanian government and, rumor has it, is married to a 30-year-old Albanian translator - they always, always land on their feet.

      See also: How the "Wolf of Wall Street" Is Still Screwing His Real-Life Victims

      See also: The 20 Worst People of 2013


      Christina McDowell currently lives in Los Angeles. She volunteers with InsideOUT Writers, a nonprofit for children impacted by the criminal justice system, and is currently writing her memoir. You can reach her at christina.mcdowell1016@yahoo.com.

      Editor's note: This essay was altered after publication to refer more accurately to the companies taken public by Stratton Oakmont. They were, in fact, corporate entities and we regret any suggestion to the contrary.


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      Re: The Film Discussion Thread.
      Reply #4229: Feb 21, 2014 01:34:03 pm
      Movies have been glorifying war, drugs, and just about any sinful deed you could possibly imagine for a long time. As soon as the synopsis of the movie was revealed I knew this was no different.

      But, I mean, it's only a movie. They tell stories. Sometimes based on real life; as in this instance. If all movies ended in 'and they all lived happily ever after' the film industry would not be what it is today.
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      Reply #4230: Feb 21, 2014 02:11:28 pm
      Bringing the young lad this weekend.
      Can. Not. Wait.

      You enjoy it then Racer?
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      Reply #4231: Feb 21, 2014 02:26:33 pm

      It was great.
      Mad. Disjointed. Emotional for me at the end.

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