New Liverpool owner John Henry & NESV to spend 'wisely'

£12.5m is the figure touted for Turan, £15 is being touted for Mata, £17m is being touted for Llorente thats £42.5m Minus the sale of Babel and Kuyt for around £20m that leaves £22.5m.

Personally I think if that happened in January we'd look a better team all together.

If that happens in January I may need a change of pants

Im just worried that he won't invest at the level that we need.

I don't mind if he doesn't spend Man City levels just lands a few quality players and im stoked.

If that happens in January I may need a change of pants

You do know you're  meant to do that daily any way? 

I'd be happy, nay astonished if we got two of them.

You do know you're  meant to do that daily any way? 

I'd be happy, nay astonished if we got two of them.

So would I to be honest, but we'd have two wingers that could stay and get their heels white and take their men on whilst strecthing the opposition and creating space for the midfield to play in and a support/backup striker for Torres.

I was never implying that this would happen, but making it clear you can spend wisely and still add quality if you get what I mean.

You do know you're  meant to do that daily any way? 

I'd be happy, nay astonished if we got two of them.

OOOOOOhhhhhhh..... That would explain a lot.

I should probably have clafified.

Change my pants upon hearing the news, due to over excitement.

Not much chance of it happening though

I'd take offloading a couple of players such as Babel and Kuyt maybe get £20m for the pair.

Get three in Turan Mata and Llorente for around £45m.

I'd call that spending wisely as it gives us two wingers and a back up striker for around £25m net

It'd be great, but I can't see us getting £10million for Babel or Kuyt. Nor could I see Roy selling Kuyt.

I dont think hes a stupid guy and he knows he needs to invest. Due to it being a consortium I dont think anyone really has too much of a clue how much NESV has behind them. I think he's playing it down atm as theres no point spending rashley in Jan, nothing ever really comes out of the Jan transfer window.
Really like the point he hasnt made any decisions yet and is taking things in and trying to assess what needs to be done, appears as if he wants to do a thorough job. I think he will invest but maybe 2-3 playes a summer, nothing drastic, without having to sell "quality" to bring them in.

Investing wisely....hmmm.....a few thoughts:

- might be some truth in the rumours that investment might be made in players that can bring in revenue e.g. Honda, Donovan and at least one star signing that brings Torres level excitement and shirt sales (e.g. Aguero? OK, I'm hoping, really hoping).  

- expect him to go for that group of younger 22-26 year old players who have years of service to give and whose value can rise so if we have to sell, we recoup our investment (who we havent been able to afford much in recent past - therefore buying 30 year old Poulsen types and freebies).  There is so much quality about that we havent bought (Bangea or Defour instead of Poulsen; Marko Marin or Turan for the wings; Llorente, Mata or Martinez who are already forcing themselves into the overflowing with quality Spanish national squad).  None of these bar Llorente (with his buy out clause) would break the bank but would add so much to our team

- no money for squad overhauls - THEREFORE, 60% of the current squad will need to shape up.  How?  Motivation/Tactics key.  AND THEREFORE, I do think a change of manager WILL come.  Roy's time is almost surely up.

Everyone is jumping the gun here.. He probably means he wont do a city or real and offer silly x amounts to sign a player..

or he is saying under hodgson he will spend wisely

It's important that we don't spend big and crazy. What I wanted and what everyone wants is if we need a player in the range of the 20 million pound range then we can actually try and pursue him instead of writing him off due to our debt and two c*nts refusing to do anything with their own money.

  It seems as if John Henry is telling us to wait until the new laws come in (2014) before we are going to compete with the best, this does make sense if you cant invest in players like City and Chelsea, but by the time the new rules come into effect we could be struggling to finish sixth.
 By the time the rules change Spurs could have moved into the Olympic stadium and be coming in or very near the top 4 every year
 Arsenal have the big stadium and have a strong team who challenge for trophies
 If Man u can get rid of there owners they will be in the best position of any club in 2014
  Chelsea and City will have some problems in 2014, but I am sure when you have money like Shiekh Mansour there will be a way to get round any problems, and Chelsea can always charge there supporters more money to make up for the small stadium
 If John Henry is not investing in the best players he needs to start building a new stadium straight away if we are going to stand any chance of competing in 2014

My only concern with those statements is that when he talks about spending wisely, who is going to actually pick the players? Surely he won't pick them, unless he's going to go for the ones that he feels would raise our profile and sell the most merchandise? He's not likely to be a footballing expert all of a sudden. Or will it be Woy picking the 'wise' purchases?? Would Chelski be as successful if Woy had been given the money?

The amount required for players is not necessarily hundreds of millions. The key is to buy the right players, something we have not always done well in the past.

The difference just one player made to our on field standard with Alonso was enormous.

The difference just one player made to our on field standard with Mascherano was enormous.

We have the best keeper in the world, one of the best strikers in the world, and of course Steven Gerrard.

What we need is top quality in our midfield, to replace Lucas,Poulsen, and Mereiles.  We need players who can bring the ball to Torres and Gerrard in an effective manner. When you look at the difference those above mentioned players made to our play, it becomes clear that its the quality of the players rather than the quantity of money thats spent on them.

50 million spent wisely would be far better than 200 million spent unwisely. It can be done and done in one window.

Whilst we all agree that splashing the cash a la City and Chelsea is something we cannot compete with one thing is clear...unless we invest heavily in next twelve months we are likely to lose Fernando Torres. He is quoted as saying he wants the club to invest and do we really anticipate playing Champions League football without such investment?

We need a 'quick hit' and sign some quality key playes....that will cost.

Despite what you may think of Torres he is a player we must not let go. He,Stevie and Pepe are the future and we build around them blooding the youth also.

So whilst we expect the new owners to spend wisely they also need to spend to get us out of the current mess we are in.We don't have the players currently to do it or the manager for that matter..

50 million spent wisely would be far better than 200 million spent unwisely. It can be done and done in one window.

That's my point. Who would you trust to spend the money wisely? Roy?

We have had a situation for a while now where we have had to wait for a transfer window, sell players, see what we get, then see who is left on the transfer market.

I don't want us to have huge money to waste.  If we were to be told we have £20M to spend in January and £20M in the summer then that is fine.

It means that right now we can start deciding how we use that money.  One big player, or 4 £5M players.  And if we sell anyone in January it can be added to the summer's fund.

Hicks and Gillett's policy meant that we simply couldn't afford to plan ahead. The only plans we ever made were for free transfers which Rafa unfortunately had to begin paying attention to.  That isn't the way to run a big football club.

Hicks and Gillette have really lowered our expectations. If we only spend that sum JD we will lose Torres in the Summer and there is no way we will be able to compete with even the Spurs of this world never mind about the other bigger clubs.

 That would have be okay in 2008 and to spend that money when the squad was a lot stronger but now the squad needs an overhaul and large amounts of money needs to be invested if like John Henry appears to want Liverpool to compete otherwise prepare for a couple of seasons of mediocre from Liverpooll

Alright Folks,

First time on here for me. Can anyone tell me how reliable LFC GLobe is. You probably all know that they are reporting SG and JC to have had a falling out with Nando. They are also reporting that NESV are actively looking for a knew manager http://lfcglobe.com/category/headlines/ I am guessing it is bull as the more well known sources would of picked up on it.

Great to see that they are looking to spend the money wisely. I just hope it is not Roy who gets to spend it. Got to be Kenny right now as Interim so the pressure is off a bit then Gus in January (if KD aint doing too well).

^ The times they are achanging Corbally.

The market price of players over recent years has been over-inflated due to Chelsea, Man City, Madrid, Barcelona, Man Utd all raising the prices of players.

Already 4 out of that list have essentially refused to go hell for leather on players anymore. 

I don't want Liverpool to spend beyond their means. I believe in the next few years, and especially with the UEFA rules coming in, we will see transfer fees deflate.  I would say £80M over two years would be a more than acceptable figure to spend on players, even before we have recouped on the likes of Babel, and if it comes to it Torres.

Considering we have -£9M over the past 2 years then I would imagine the figure above would be hugely fantastic without plunging us back in to the abyss of debt.

Alright Folks,

First time on here for me.

The bold letters at the top are called the topic title.

That is what we are discussing in this topic.

Keep your posts on topic, read other topics to see if your questions have already been answered, and you might make it to your second post.

The results of the last couple of years transfer spend are clear for all to see, Hicks and Gillette have managed to cripple our squad over the last 3 years. My only worry is for us to be back competing we will at least have to match the big clubs in the transfer market.

 Them new rules JD are far from being agreed if Platini has his way he will try and get them in. If we are to compete I think that is our big hope that this comes in.

 I want Liverpool to be compete Premierships only way that is going to happen is with a top class manager and a good transfer budget.

NESV are worth a reported $3.1 billion a lot of which is tied up in things like the Red Sox. I think these comments are aimed at lowering the fans expectations.

As I've said if John Henry wants to be successful he will have to spend substanial amounts of money in the transfer market, I'm not filled with confidence after reading his comments that he is willing to do that.

we need to spend big on the right players, agreed, but I would much rather be sensible and build the team. it needs to be a good balance of developing the acedemy players and stars (of which we have 3 world class ones at mo). we don't need 15 million plus players per position, that's ludicrious and unsustainable unless you have an arab billionnaire (which are thin on the ground believe it or not).

if we had one big signing per year, and 1 or two promising youngsters, I would be happy because the right manager can build with that. and as I keep saying, lfc's global branding and global reach ahs huge potential. we can can foreseebly build a model whereby our revenues can sustain a healthy transfer budget and acedemy development.

I've always said and will always say that I would not want lfc buying the title like chavski and citeh.

40m a season would be outstanding. Net spend, that is.

We could easily recoup 30m from the squad from Degen, Poulsen, Babel, Insua, Kuyt and Aquilani (i don't want him to go, but Juve have first option and really rate him) on top of that.

That's 70m to spend all up.

There is spending wisely and then there is spending stupidly.

City at present are spending stupidly, buying everything they can get their hands on just for the sake of buying.

Chelsea spent crazy, they even bought players to stop others buying them. Now they can afford to spend wisely, but only because they they have eventually managed to get a team out of all the players they have bought.

We, I think, will not be given the pleasure of buying stupidly, simply as our owners are a group and not an individual who has money to burn on a luxury. Our owners may not be looking for a profit per-say, but they will not be spending for the sake of spending.

I think, we will have a new manager soon, as the players our current manager has bought are very poor. Once we have a new manager in, then will will know as to the caliber of player we will be looking for. But the £25m we will have that has been wasted on interest payments alone will be a huge bonus.

Only time will tell. But FIRST, unfortunately we need a new Manager.