Why We'll Beat Spurs For 5th - Touch Wood

This, all day long.

I can't stand how nowadays all players and fans want is to play in the Champions League. The league is more important and always will be.

I want players here who want to win titles, not merely play in the Champions League. I want our fans to want trophies more than finishing f**king 4th. Second is nothing, let alone fourth.

This, all F***ing day long. European Cups are remarkable achievements, i'm very proud of the five we already have, but the mark of any Club is the League titles they acquire. The League is what is has always been about, that is not to say i denounce the European and Domestic cups we have won, i want us to win every competition we enter.

To be the Champions of your own domestic League after 38 games is the pinnacle for any team, that includes Liverpool Football Club.

"Liverpool Football Club exists to win trophies"

Last time I looked the Europa League is a trophy that can be won.

So is the East Mids Robin Hood Cup...

Is that cow alright Mickey or have you milked it dry yet?

The thing is you arnt anywhere near challenging for anything worth winning (if you class yourself as a big club) if you are in the Europa League. Indeed if you are in the Champions league you are believe it or not at Europes top table playing the games that LFC should be involved in & guess what? It means you tend to finish higher up the table! For me the EPL is th be all & end all, I'd take it over anything. Champs League is a nice glory moment for me on top of anything else.

So in 73, 76 and 01 we didn't win a European trophy of any worth? Those trophies, made us into a big club. They got us used to winning and more importantly winning in Europe which was the springboard for the nights to follow i.e. four European Cups in just over 10 years of our first UEFA Cup.

We haven't won a European trophy for six years now. Only two players at the club have won a European trophy with the club. So the UEFA Cup/Fairs Cup/Europa League whatever name it's under will be a good springboard for this current side. It will give them European experience and hopefully the experience of winning silverware again.

Thankfully we have some fans amongst us who are not glory hunters and do not only care about the Champions League. Some of us do understand the importance of the Europa League and what it's done for this club over the years. It's what put us on the map in the first place, it's what puts us back on the map in 2001 after a long dry spell of European success. And over the past few years, this club has started to decline again on the European front so a good run in the Europa League next year will do us the world of good. As would a good run in the domestic cups and a right go at the League next year.

If you wanna be spoilt and believe us and yourself too good for the Europa League then don't bother turning up at games, don't bother coming on here celebrating and don't bother come the final celebrating when Stevie lifts the Europa League above his head and makes us the sole most successful club within the competition.

The way you speak, it comes across you'd rather Kenny sent us out to lose against Spurs and Villa. Never in my life did I think I'd see the day Liverpool fans get so F***ing high and mighty they thought of the club too good for a competition. Leave that to those cu*ts up the East Lancs who thought of themselves too good for the FA Cup in 99/00 after their treble. Or leave it to that tax dodging tw*t Harry Redkanpp who thinks because he's managed in the European Cup, all of a sudden he;'s too good for the Eurpa League. Liverpool Football Club has more class than that and never think of ourslves to be too good for any competition.

If we were too good for it, we'd be in the Champions League - we're not. So there's no point crying over spilt milk. Lets just swallow our spoilt pride by European Cup football and go hell bent on winning ourselves a fourth Europa League.

Lets prove we are too good by winning it at a canter. Lets steam roll every c**t in our way. Lets bring success back to Anfield.

We don't have a god given right to be in the Champions League. I'm sure quite a few of us forgot that over the years bacause it was almost certain we'd be in Europe's premier competition year in year out. But now that we have to earn our spot back into it, people aren't prepared for Europa League football. They think it should just be handed to us on a plate and we shouldn't have to work hard for our chance at European Cup football again.

Well we do have to work hard, just like Shanks had to and just like Bob had to. Both of them started in the UEFA Cup while trying to get into the European Cup which was a lot F***ing harder to do in them days as well. Shanks never mastered winning the European Cup but Bob sure as F***ing hell did. Three years running he won European trophies - 76 UEFA Cup 77 &78 European Cups.

Rafa won the European Cup, do you think that just happened or do you think his successful stint in the UEFA Cup in 04 had any bearing on it? He knew how to win in Europe because he'd had previous experience of doing so. Kenny, unfortunately hasn't. He wasn't able to conquer the continent because of the ban UEFA placed on English clubs.

This is a chance for Kenny to ply his trade and pick up European experience before we go and win the European Cup during this decade.

So quit F***ing moaning about it, get your arse in gear and get behind the boys on a successful run in the Europa League. We can't get in the Champions League this year, so no point wanting us to now. Instead put all that attention on coming fifth, entering the Europa League and seeing us win it as well as winning the League in order for us to be once again crowned as the very finest on these shores and giving us the opportunity to be crowned the very finest in Europe the following year.

But for now, it's Europa League football next year so that's what we care about.

So is the East Mids Robin Hood Cup...

As far as I know we've never entered into that Cup Competition so how is that relevant to Liverpool Football Club?

Rafa won the European Cup, do you think that just happened or do you think his successful stint in the UEFA Cup in 04 had any bearing on it? He knew how to win in Europe because he'd had previous experience of doing so. Kenny, unfortunately hasn't. He wasn't able to conquer the continent because of the ban UEFA placed on English clubs.

This is a chance for Kenny to ply his trade and pick up European experience before we go and win the European Cup during this decade.

Find myself agreeing with every word but you make a good point here in particular DLS.

We start in the 4th qualification round (ie. we win our 2 legged play-off and we're in the group stages).

Much better than the round before, and we will be top seeds. As our European Record over past 6 years is still very good.

Find myself agreeing with every word but you make a good point here in particular DLS.

Very good point as well. But we also have stevie Clarke along side kenny who has experience with Mr Jose & the chavs when Rafa was with us. And a lot of the players have tons of experience.

So in 73, 76 and 01 we didn't win a European trophy of any worth? .

Did I say that? Have I said the Europa is worthless & not worth winning either? 

I've been doing my part, as I touch wood every night when I go to sleep.

It's all on us now. Win and we have it.

So in 73, 76 and 01 we didn't win a European trophy of any worth? Those trophies, made us into a big club. They got us used to winning and more importantly winning in Europe which was the springboard for the nights to follow I.e. four European Cups in just over 10 years of our first UEFA Cup.

We haven't won a European trophy for six years now. Only two players at the club have won a European trophy with the club. So the UEFA Cup/Fairs Cup/Europa League whatever name it's under will be a good springboard for this current side. It will give them European experience and hopefully the experience of winning silverware again.

Thankfully we have some fans amongst us who are not glory hunters and do not only care about the Champions League. Some of us do understand the importance of the Europa League and what it's done for this club over the years. It's what put us on the map in the first place, it's what puts us back on the map in 2001 after a long dry spell of European success. And over the past few years, this club has started to decline again on the European front so a good run in the Europa League next year will do us the world of good. As would a good run in the domestic cups and a right go at the League next year.

If you wanna be spoilt and believe us and yourself too good for the Europa League then don't bother turning up at games, don't bother coming on here celebrating and don't bother come the final celebrating when Stevie lifts the Europa League above his head and makes us the sole most successful club within the competition.

The way you speak, it comes across you'd rather Kenny sent us out to lose against Spurs and Villa. Never in my life did I think I'd see the day Liverpool fans get so f**king high and mighty they thought of the club too good for a competition. Leave that to those cu*ts up the East Lancs who thought of themselves too good for the FA Cup in 99/00 after their treble. Or leave it to that tax dodging tw*t Harry Redkanpp who thinks because he's managed in the European Cup, all of a sudden he;'s too good for the Eurpa League. Liverpool Football Club has more class than that and never think of ourslves to be too good for any competition.

If we were too good for it, we'd be in the Champions League - we're not. So there's no point crying over spilt milk. Lets just swallow our spoilt pride by European Cup football and go hell bent on winning ourselves a fourth Europa League.

Lets prove we are too good by winning it at a canter. Lets steam roll every c**t in our way. Lets bring success back to Anfield.

We don't have a god given right to be in the Champions League. I'm sure quite a few of us forgot that over the years bacause it was almost certain we'd be in Europe's premier competition year in year out. But now that we have to earn our spot back into it, people aren't prepared for Europa League football. They think it should just be handed to us on a plate and we shouldn't have to work hard for our chance at European Cup football again.

Well we do have to work hard, just like Shanks had to and just like Bob had to. Both of them started in the UEFA Cup while trying to get into the European Cup which was a lot f**king harder to do in them days as well. Shanks never mastered winning the European Cup but Bob sure as f**king hell did. Three years running he won European trophies - 76 UEFA Cup 77 &78 European Cups.

Rafa won the European Cup, do you think that just happened or do you think his successful stint in the UEFA Cup in 04 had any bearing on it? He knew how to win in Europe because he'd had previous experience of doing so. Kenny, unfortunately hasn't. He wasn't able to conquer the continent because of the ban UEFA placed on English clubs.

This is a chance for Kenny to ply his trade and pick up European experience before we go and win the European Cup during this decade.

So quit f**king moaning about it, get your arse in gear and get behind the boys on a successful run in the Europa League. We can't get in the Champions League this year, so no point wanting us to now. Instead put all that attention on coming fifth, entering the Europa League and seeing us win it as well as winning the League in order for us to be once again crowned as the very finest on these shores and giving us the opportunity to be crowned the very finest in Europe the following year.

But for now, it's Europa League football next year so that's what we care about.

F***ing spot on lad !

So in 73, 76 and 01 we didn't win a European trophy of any worth? Those trophies, made us into a big club. They got us used to winning and more importantly winning in Europe which was the springboard for the nights to follow I.e. four European Cups in just over 10 years of our first UEFA Cup.

We haven't won a European trophy for six years now. Only two players at the club have won a European trophy with the club. So the UEFA Cup/Fairs Cup/Europa League whatever name it's under will be a good springboard for this current side. It will give them European experience and hopefully the experience of winning silverware again.

Thankfully we have some fans amongst us who are not glory hunters and do not only care about the Champions League. Some of us do understand the importance of the Europa League and what it's done for this club over the years. It's what put us on the map in the first place, it's what puts us back on the map in 2001 after a long dry spell of European success. And over the past few years, this club has started to decline again on the European front so a good run in the Europa League next year will do us the world of good. As would a good run in the domestic cups and a right go at the League next year.

If you wanna be spoilt and believe us and yourself too good for the Europa League then don't bother turning up at games, don't bother coming on here celebrating and don't bother come the final celebrating when Stevie lifts the Europa League above his head and makes us the sole most successful club within the competition.

The way you speak, it comes across you'd rather Kenny sent us out to lose against Spurs and Villa. Never in my life did I think I'd see the day Liverpool fans get so f**king high and mighty they thought of the club too good for a competition. Leave that to those cu*ts up the East Lancs who thought of themselves too good for the FA Cup in 99/00 after their treble. Or leave it to that tax dodging tw*t Harry Redkanpp who thinks because he's managed in the European Cup, all of a sudden he;'s too good for the Eurpa League. Liverpool Football Club has more class than that and never think of ourslves to be too good for any competition.

If we were too good for it, we'd be in the Champions League - we're not. So there's no point crying over spilt milk. Lets just swallow our spoilt pride by European Cup football and go hell bent on winning ourselves a fourth Europa League.

Lets prove we are too good by winning it at a canter. Lets steam roll every c**t in our way. Lets bring success back to Anfield.

We don't have a god given right to be in the Champions League. I'm sure quite a few of us forgot that over the years bacause it was almost certain we'd be in Europe's premier competition year in year out. But now that we have to earn our spot back into it, people aren't prepared for Europa League football. They think it should just be handed to us on a plate and we shouldn't have to work hard for our chance at European Cup football again.

Well we do have to work hard, just like Shanks had to and just like Bob had to. Both of them started in the UEFA Cup while trying to get into the European Cup which was a lot f**king harder to do in them days as well. Shanks never mastered winning the European Cup but Bob sure as f**king hell did. Three years running he won European trophies - 76 UEFA Cup 77 &78 European Cups.

Rafa won the European Cup, do you think that just happened or do you think his successful stint in the UEFA Cup in 04 had any bearing on it? He knew how to win in Europe because he'd had previous experience of doing so. Kenny, unfortunately hasn't. He wasn't able to conquer the continent because of the ban UEFA placed on English clubs.

This is a chance for Kenny to ply his trade and pick up European experience before we go and win the European Cup during this decade.

So quit f**king moaning about it, get your arse in gear and get behind the boys on a successful run in the Europa League. We can't get in the Champions League this year, so no point wanting us to now. Instead put all that attention on coming fifth, entering the Europa League and seeing us win it as well as winning the League in order for us to be once again crowned as the very finest on these shores and giving us the opportunity to be crowned the very finest in Europe the following year.

But for now, it's Europa League football next year so that's what we care about.

I agree with alot you say, so I am unsure why you aim it at me? Where do I start?

So I am a glory hunter eh? Just because I want better for my club & dare to suggest that we shouldn’t be happy with the Europa League. Fair enough, I must be – I also must have stopped supporting throughout the baron spells. I’ve followed through good & bad & might I add for alot longer than you have.  When have I suggested that I only care about the Champs League? Very selective here Mr Dunlop & quite frankly wrong. Sorry to burst your bubble.

We are too good for the Europa League, or are you saying we are no longer a big club deserving a place at the top table? You can’t have it both ways. That said what on earth has that got to do with me not turning up, supporting & being happy if we win? I have never said I wouldn’t want us to win it if we are in it & that I would do anything but support 100% I suggest you take back the claims as it’s not true. Not really sure why you are making this up tbh???

The way I speak means what? Again why make things up. Just go read the thread about the spurs game. Then come back & start again.

You miss the point, I mean the clubs to good, not the current team. Hence why I am disappointed & want improvement. For sure I don’t think we have any right to anything, but we should demand it & ask questions when it’s not achieved. You judge me, label me & it seems say that I’m not a real supporter as I don’t follow your views. In your eyes I’m certainly not a supporter like you, the king of supporters it seems??? You suggest I have forgotton about non Champs League years? Get a grip man I have followed the club for most of my near 39 years pal. Again, why insinuate.

Thanks for the regurgitated history (again I won’t say lesson as you haven’t taught me anything) again. Is there any need for it?

I will have a moan if I like, thanks. Yet whilst I might do that here, for sure I do nothing but support during the match (unlike some – too many of late in fact)

Bottom line is we both support LFC & both want what’s best for the club. I certainly don’t bleat onto telling you how to support, not really sure who you think you are telling me such.

So is the East Mids Robin Hood Cup...

Bit of mouthful though, how the F**k do you fit that in a song, plus where's the final getting played, just to avoid the usual scramble for tickets.

When have I suggested that I only care about the Champs League?

How about here soft lad.

The thing is you arnt anywhere near challenging for anything worth winning (if you class yourself as a big club) if you are in the Europa League.

Claiming that winning the Europa League is of no worth. So it's not selective, it's you being a tit.

I agree with alot you say, so I am unsure why you aim it at me? Where do I start?

So I am a glory hunter eh? Just because I want better for my club & dare to suggest that we shouldn’t be happy with the Europa League. Fair enough, I must be – I also must have stopped supporting throughout the baron spells. I’ve followed through good & bad & might I add for alot longer than you have.  When have I suggested that I only care about the Champs League? Very selective here Mr Dunlop & quite frankly wrong. Sorry to burst your bubble.

We are too good for the Europa League, or are you saying we are no longer a big club deserving a place at the top table? You can’t have it both ways. That said what on earth has that got to do with me not turning up, supporting & being happy if we win? I have never said I wouldn’t want us to win it if we are in it & that I would do anything but support 100% I suggest you take back the claims as it’s not true. Not really sure why you are making this up tbh???

The way I speak means what? Again why make things up. Just go read the thread about the spurs game. Then come back & start again.

You miss the point, I mean the clubs to good, not the current team. Hence why I am disappointed & want improvement. For sure I don’t think we have any right to anything, but we should demand it & ask questions when it’s not achieved. You judge me, label me & it seems say that I’m not a real supporter as I don’t follow your views. In your eyes I’m certainly not a supporter like you, the king of supporters it seems??? You suggest I have forgotton about non Champs League years? Get a grip man I have followed the club for most of my near 39 years pal. Again, why insinuate.

Thanks for the regurgitated history (again I won’t say lesson as you haven’t taught me anything) again. Is there any need for it?

I will have a moan if I like, thanks. Yet whilst I might do that here, for sure I do nothing but support during the match (unlike some – too many of late in fact)

Bottom line is we both support LFC & both want what’s best for the club. I certainly don’t bleat onto telling you how to support, not really sure who you think you are telling me such.

First paragaph. You may of had the fortune of following my club for longer than I have. Not a great deal can be done about that. I didn't chose when I was born. If I could of, I'd of chose late 50s but that's not really the point. Makes no odds how long you've been following a club, you can still be a glory hunter. If you started following us in 1971 or 2001, makes no odds you can still be a glory hunter. And the way you come across to me makes me believe you are. Not gonna appologise for feeling like that nor make any bones about it, I think you're a glory hunter - plain and simple.

No we don't deserve a place at the top of the table. You have to earn that right. We're deserving of nothing. If you knew anything about Liverpool Football Club, you'd know that. During the glory of the 60s, 70s and 80s we never rested upon what we'd won. We put it in the cabinet and went on to do better this year. Now, it appears, we have people expecting our name to pull us through. It doesn't work like that. We deserve what we get, if we're not prepared to put the effort in to get the results to be at the top of the table, then we don't deserve to be at the top of the tabkle. If it was all about name then Leeds, Forest, Sheff Wed, would  all be in the League ahead of clubs  like Wigan, Bolton, Blackpool, Stoke. We are still the biggest club in the world as far as I'm concerned but that does not mean we deserve to win the League or be anywhere near challenging for it.

So by saying it's of no worth is you wanting us to win it? Saying you're not arsed if we're in it or not is you wanting us to the win the Europa League? As I've already said, if your heart isn't it then don't bother celebrating when we win it if you can't be arsed with the earlier rounds. That's the true mark of a glory hunter as well, somebody who only cares when it comes to the semi finals and the final but sort of ignores the early rounds.

And yes the way you speak does make me believe that. Regardless of what you post elsewhere. The way you've spoken about the Europa League suggests to me you'd rather see us lose. I can't fathom anybody wanting us to lose ever. Whehther that be to avoid Europa League football or lose to Chelsea so United don't win the League like last season. We set ourselves to win every game.

Why is the club too good for the Europa League? Because we have a rich history of success including three UEFA Cups. That's the past. It's the present we live in and this present Liverpool Football Club isn't good enough for anything more than the Europa League - if it was we'd be there. Our name may suggest we should be on the biggest stage of all, but that's again expecting our name to do the job for us. Our name is global but that does not give us the right to play European Cup football. We have to earn that right.

As for me being king of supporters? Well if the king of the supporters is a passionate, loyal, knowledgable, believing, sometimes blinded by his love of his club then F**k yeah I'll be the king. I'll be up there with Elvis and Kenny. Just hope I don't the need bog soon.

And well done on following the club for 39 years or so. Me arl fella has followed them for 4 decades and then some what's your point?

Yes there is plenty of need for the lessons. It educates people who may not know our history. It also informs people like you of where we've come from and why the UEFA Cup/Europa League has a special place in the hearts of Liverpool Football Club fans. And I'm always happy to back my arguments up with facts from the past.

Who do I think I am? From now on I'll think I'm the king. Sure a few others will as well.

Simple truth is no Liverpool fan wants us to be in the Europa League because no Liverpool fan wants us to be fifth. We want to be first. However, this year the best we can now do is fifth so we're in the Europa League and the best we can do in that is to win it which Liverpool fans should want us to do. You've done nothing but slag it off and rubbish it as a competition and tried to defend yourself by saying you want better than that. We all do but we can't do it this year so shut the F**k up moaning about it. Instead focus on winning the League, Europea League, FA Cup and League Cup next year.

How about here soft lad.

Claiming that winning the Europa League is of no worth. So it's not selective, it's you being a tit.

wrong again "soft lad" saying i dont class the Europa League as one of the trophies I want Liverpool to be winning (as i class us better than that)certainly doesnt mean I only care about the Champs league. If you draw that from what I have posted then you must be pretty thick or its just you being "a tit"

You pick away & make out your the best Liverpool fan in the world, I couldnt give a sh*t tbh - I will support the way I see fit. Christ, its like you dont want people unless they share your views supporting the club! Fukking hilarious, what gives you the right?

Anyone who thinks that the Europa League is only a second-rate competition and would be a burden on us, are the same fans that would say 'At the end of the day it's a European competition and a trophy' when we are in the 1/4 next season in it.

First paragaph. You may of had the fortune of following my club for longer than I have. Not a great deal can be done about that. I didn't chose when I was born. If I could of, I'd of chose late 50s but that's not really the point. Makes no odds how long you've been following a club, you can still be a glory hunter. If you started following us in 1971 or 2001, makes no odds you can still be a glory hunter. And the way you come across to me makes me believe you are. Not gonna appologise for feeling like that nor make any bones about it, I think you're a glory hunter - plain and simple.

No we don't deserve a place at the top of the table. You have to earn that right. We're deserving of nothing. If you knew anything about Liverpool Football Club, you'd know that. During the glory of the 60s, 70s and 80s we never rested upon what we'd won. We put it in the cabinet and went on to do better this year. Now, it appears, we have people expecting our name to pull us through. It doesn't work like that. We deserve what we get, if we're not prepared to put the effort in to get the results to be at the top of the table, then we don't deserve to be at the top of the tabkle. If it was all about name then Leeds, Forest, Sheff Wed, would  all be in the League ahead of clubs  like Wigan, Bolton, Blackpool, Stoke. We are still the biggest club in the world as far as I'm concerned but that does not mean we deserve to win the League or be anywhere near challenging for it.

So by saying it's of no worth is you wanting us to win it? Saying you're not arsed if we're in it or not is you wanting us to the win the Europa League? As I've already said, if your heart isn't it then don't bother celebrating when we win it if you can't be arsed with the earlier rounds. That's the true mark of a glory hunter as well, somebody who only cares when it comes to the semi finals and the final but sort of ignores the early rounds.

And yes the way you speak does make me believe that. Regardless of what you post elsewhere. The way you've spoken about the Europa League suggests to me you'd rather see us lose. I can't fathom anybody wanting us to lose ever. Whehther that be to avoid Europa League football or lose to Chelsea so United don't win the League like last season. We set ourselves to win every game.

Why is the club too good for the Europa League? Because we have a rich history of success including three UEFA Cups. That's the past. It's the present we live in and this present Liverpool Football Club isn't good enough for anything more than the Europa League - if it was we'd be there. Our name may suggest we should be on the biggest stage of all, but that's again expecting our name to do the job for us. Our name is global but that does not give us the right to play European Cup football. We have to earn that right.

As for me being king of supporters? Well if the king of the supporters is a passionate, loyal, knowledgable, believing, sometimes blinded by his love of his club then f**k yeah I'll be the king. I'll be up there with Elvis and Kenny. Just hope I don't the need bog soon.

And well done on following the club for 39 years or so. Me arl fella has followed them for 4 decades and then some what's your point?

Yes there is plenty of need for the lessons. It educates people who may not know our history. It also informs people like you of where we've come from and why the UEFA Cup/Europa League has a special place in the hearts of Liverpool Football Club fans. And I'm always happy to back my arguments up with facts from the past.

Who do I think I am? From now on I'll think I'm the king. Sure a few others will as well.

Simple truth is no Liverpool fan wants us to be in the Europa League because no Liverpool fan wants us to be fifth. We want to be first. However, this year the best we can now do is fifth so we're in the Europa League and the best we can do in that is to win it which Liverpool fans should want us to do. You've done nothing but slag it off and rubbish it as a competition and tried to defend yourself by saying you want better than that. We all do but we can't do it this year so shut the f**k up moaning about it. Instead focus on winning the League, Europea League, FA Cup and League Cup next year.

With regards to how long I have supported compared to you :

This is of no interest to me, I was just saying how long I have supported the club, it’s makes no difference to me how long you have. Indeed it doesn’t make either more or less of a supporter. You think I’m a glory hunter – by what definition? If you mean I chase glory with a glorious club then you are right, I care most about the EPL – I want that glory. I would of course still support no matter what league we are in & if say we got relegated then I’d be chasing the glory of promotion. THAT DOESNT MEAN I DONT WANT BETTER – what’s so hard to fathom? You suggest I’m a tit for wanting the club to win the best things... brilliant that.......

Don’t apologise then, didn’t think you would.

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Deserving of a place at the top table – you say we are not then say we are the world’s biggest club:

Which is it then Einstein, you can’t have both. & I am not talking about the team! Again what’s so hard to fathom? You say it’s about names? Well I guess it is, but the clubs you mention are not even worth mentioning in the same breath as us – totally different. The club’s history, fan base & soul deserve it, demand it. Ok, we don’t have a god given right, but when we arnt at it then questions are actually allowed to be asked. Don’t tell me, you just follow blind in your own little bubble?


I only care when it comes to semi finals & finals? Where do you get this from? Why make things up. I’m done with the glory hunter stuff you bleat on about, say what you like about it. You are making yourself look silly by lying & twisting things to suit your own needs for reasons only known to you. And I haven’t said I would rather we lose anything, but I am not that fussed if the reserves or youth team loses in the same way I am about the first 11 as that’s what we will be supporting in the Europa (don’t tell me – that makes me a glory hunter as well... You also get like this about Liverpool under 11 ladies?)


Are you saying Liverpool football Club hasn’t got the right to be in Europe’s to competition. Shame on you, what would Paisley, Shankly & Co think about that after all the hard work the put in to give us that right. You blart on about great men of the past & then dismiss what they have done be basically saying it means nothing today apart from press clippings.

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The king of supporters :

Are you saying I’m not loyal, passionate & knowledgable with of course a hint of bias thrown in sometimes? Maybe not as much as you (certainly not as blind about facts btw) but for you to suggest that makes me a glory hunting “tit” that isn’t a supporter says more about you than me. Your certainly more Elvis than Kenny btw!
Good on your “arl fella” btw – I am happy for you & him, I covered the years thing earlier.

“Who do I think I am? From now on I'll think I'm the king. Sure a few others will as well.”

If you actually think this, then I feel sorry for you, it does explain alot though


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History of this club :

Don’t need it from you, I’ve seen more history than you. Go read a book about it & then go back on the internet, after that you can come back & copy & paste!.....

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Simple truth (as you put it)

Fully agree with first part, then again you lie. When have I “slagged it off” I have all along said I want better than that & that I don’t want us to go all out for it at the expense of the EPL. This is because of the way I see LFC now, not the competition (threw the years) per say. I also doubt we will field a really strong team anyway – so what are you going to say to Kenny after that? Hypocrite you will be, no doubt. You will have some reason to back track. I haven’t had to defend myself, just repeat what I have said & I have not moaned about it thank you. I have expressed a view, one you don’t agree with (fair enough) all you have then done is moaned & groaned like a know it all old granny suggesting I’m this & that.

Think we are done about this really aren’t we. Tbh I can’t believe you will read all of this, if you do you won’t digest, think & reply. You will just take & twist if it suits & make other stuff up.

Shame as I know we both just want to win the EPL – can we agree on that & move on?


“Instead focus on winning the League, Europa League, FA Cup and League Cup next year”

Priceless – are they in order? Are you putting cups in an order! . It’s the EPL for me, that’s the focus. Anything else is for the glory hunters!!!

Anyone who thinks that the Europa League is only a second-rate competition and would be a burden on us, are the same fans that would say 'At the end of the day it's a European competition and a trophy' when we are in the 1/4 next season in it.

Are they? You know all 'these' people then?

The Europa League is a 2nd rate competition as the Champs league is the first rate competition in that field. Just like the League cup has & always will be behind the FA cup & the Championship is 2nd rate behind the EPL. Not rocket science.

And of course at the end of the day it's a European competition & trophy - thats what it is. Doesnt mean its not 2nd rate though.

We are not out of the EL yet!  Villa are guaranteed safety, and as such they really don't have much else to play for aside from personal/team pride and personal stat padding.  I'm hopeful that we can put last weekends poor performance behind us and go to Villa and pick up 3 points.

On the other hand, Spuds face a very different situation against Brum!  They know that a loss will almost certainly condemn them to relegation.  They need to pick up at least a point to have a shot at playing in the top division next year, and 3 points would almost assure them of retaining their place in the top flight for another year.  A team fighting for its life is never an easy team to play against, and Brum have a tendency of making themselves hard to beat.  Hopefully they can do what we need them to and pull a point off of Spuds!  Don't lose faith lads!  YNWA

Would shankly call the competition 2nd rate? doubt it very much.

Its amazing how it does not become 2nd rate once in the final.

Are they? You know all 'these' people then?

The Europa League is a 2nd rate competition as the Champs league is the first rate competition in that field. Just like the League cup has & always will be behind the FA cup & the Championship is 2nd rate behind the EPL. Not rocket science.

And of course at the end of the day it's a European competition & trophy - thats what it is. Doesnt mean its not 2nd rate though.

Both trophies are first rate, the prestige for one is more than the other, yes, but both are still first rate trophies.  You can pin point when the 'media' decided the UEFA Cup wasn't though, it's a shame some fans followed their lead.  

Are they? You know all 'these' people then?

The Europa League is a 2nd rate competition as the Champs league is the first rate competition in that field. Just like the League cup has & always will be behind the FA cup & the Championship is 2nd rate behind the EPL. Not rocket science.

And of course at the end of the day it's a European competition & trophy - thats what it is. Doesnt mean its not 2nd rate though.

Time for everyone to settle down. This season has ended on a more positive note than anyone could have thought 6 months ago. Yes i think we will get 5th, but if we dont  its still a turn around from what could have been. Lot's to look forward during the summer and the season to come. Onwards and upwards folks.