Alan Hansen: Suarez cannot be blamed...

He seems to be getting slated when it clearly wasn't deliberate, yet Thierry Henry was deliberate and cost Ireland a place in a major tournament. Are Mansfield bitter because they genuinely wanted to see how far they could get or are they bitter because they lost out on a bit extra cash? Either way it's the officials who are in the wrong, not Suarez. Anyways, about time we got a decision for once.

Have Mansfield shown any bitterness about the decision?

I only ask because the only comment I've seen was from the manager and he took it well and said it happens and he would have taken it if it had been for his team instead of against.

Have Mansfield shown any bitterness about the decision?

I only ask because the only comment I've seen was from the manager and he took it well and said it happens and he would have taken it if it had been for his team instead of against.

Wasn't their chairman saying Liverpool should be embarrassed by Suarez' actions?

Have Mansfield shown any bitterness about the decision?

I only ask because the only comment I've seen was from the manager and he took it well and said it happens and he would have taken it if it had been for his team instead of against.

Their owner's come out having a right go at Luis mate. 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2013/jan/07/luis-suarez-accused-embarrassing-liverpool

Wasn't their chairman saying Liverpool should be embarrassed by Suarez' actions?

Their owner's come out having a right go at Luis mate. 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2013/jan/07/luis-suarez-accused-embarrassing-liverpool

Ah right. I hadn't seen those comments.

They should have accepted it and moved on like their manager did.

I've taken a look at the incident  a few times and it appears to me that Suarez intended to stop the ball from getting away from him, he tried to use his body to do just that but his outstretched hand got into the way and I'm sure he knew the ball had hit his hand and as a sign of frustration blasted the ball into the net. But he got a surprise gift from the referee, that's all to it.

Suarez being Suarez, may I just exaggerate a bit here, he'll use a hockey stick to whack it into goal if necessary, that's the kind of determination and fighting spirit he has for every game, how I hope every player on the field shows the same determination. Others may interprete the incident differently, but to be fair to Suarez the press should also be fair to him to also highlight the numerous fouls committed against him and some were clear cut penalties not given while others could have injured him seriously. How about Crouch's handball, it was even more embarrasing. 

Good to hear from Ayre.

Liverpool FC: Reds MD Ian Ayre denies claims he was ‘embarrassed’ by Luis Suarez’s goal at Mansfield

LIVERPOOL FC managing director Ian Ayre has dismissed as ‘nonsense’ suggestions that he felt embarrassed by Luis Suarez’s actions in the FA Cup tie at Mansfield Town.

Ayre was left baffled by a scathing attack on the Reds striker from Stags chairman John Radford.

The insurance tycoon branded Suarez a cheat after his handball prior to scoring what proved to be the decisive strike in Sunday’s third round tie.

Radford said the Uruguayan should feel ashamed, accused him of gloating with his goal celebration and claimed even ‘Liverpool’s directors felt embarrassed’.

However, Ayre insists that is untrue and has delivered a robust defence of the Reds’ top scorer.

“It’s nonsense to say that I was embarrassed,” he said.

“I spoke to their chairman after the game and we shook hands. I thanked him for their hospitality and wished them all the best of luck for the rest of the season.

“He said that our second goal was a clear handball. I said the referee didn’t think it was deliberate and had given the goal and we move on.

“I certainly didn’t give him any indication that I was embarrassed. I was the only director there so I don’t know who he is referring to.

“I was surprised when I read his comments because Mansfield’s manager and players showed a lot of dignity after the game. They spoke sense when they said these things happen in football all the time.

“It was a great game and a great occasion. Mansfield conducted themselves fantastically well both on and off the pitch.

“It’s just disappointing that the chairman has made these comments. He’s hurting at being knocked out, you can’t blame him for that, but it’s wrong to say that Luis kissing his wrist was in some way gloating over the handball. Luis does the same thing after every goal.”

Ayre believes the criticism of Suarez has been blown out of all proportion and rubbished the idea that the talented frontman should have informed referee Andre Marriner that he had handled the ball and urged him to disallow it.

“A lot has been written about it but the reality is – as we always get told – the referee’s decision is final,” Ayre added.

“I don’t know what people expected Luis to do? The ball came back at him off the keeper so fast and there is no question that it hit his hand. He did what any player would do and put it into the net.

“It’s not for Luis to say whether the handball was or wasn’t deliberate. The referee and the assistants are there to make that decision. Their decision was that the goal stood.

“There have been plenty of decisions which have gone against Luis this season. These things seem to follow Luis around and it’s unfortunate, but he has our full support. He’s a fantastic player who makes a huge contribution to the club. Knowing Luis, it won’t affect him as he’s a very strong character.”

Read more: Liverpool Echo http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-fc/liverpool-fc-news/2013/01/09/liverpool-fc-reds-md-ian-ayre-denies-claims-he-was-embarrassed-by-luis-suarez-s-goal-at-mansfield-100252-32570285/2/#ixzz2HTi3HElp

Good to hear from Ayre.

True.

Well done to Ayre backing Luis.

the only thing that is embarrasing is a rich old man with young wife who talks sh*te.

True.

Well done to Ayre backing Luis.

I know mate, who'd a thunk it eh 

Ian Ayre does something useful - what a shock.

Was it a handball, yes

Was it intentional? Not a chance he'd have the best reactiontimes of any human to move his hand into place to knock that ball in with the speed it came to him.

Should it have stood? Yes, Why? Because the ref and his officials played on and allowed it. The way Luis kicks the ball in the net he's expecteing a whistle or a flag to disallow it theres no doubt of that. No other player would or should turn to the ref and say "no goal I handled it" Luis should be no different.

Sick to the back teeth of people having a go at Suarez. All stems from the TV media nd red tops and what they have said and written about him. Every week in every game in every division things happen like diving, hand abll on purpose, fouling and then claiming the player dived etc but if Luis Suarez does a thing bang! he's the worlds biggest villain.

A bit of realism here is needed from people who like sheep follow the medias word. Officials missed the handball, then claimed it was seen but deemed to be unintentional. Fook off having a go at Suarez.

Finally, Luis should sue Jon Campion and Waddle 

Was it a handball, yes

Was it intentional? Not a chance he'd have the best reactiontimes of any human to move his hand into place to knock that ball in with the speed it came to him.

Should it have stood? Yes, Why? Because the ref and his officials played on and allowed it. The way Luis kicks the ball in the net he's expecteing a whistle or a flag to disallow it theres no doubt of that. No other player would or should turn to the ref and say "no goal I handled it" Luis should be no different.

Sick to the back teeth of people having a go at Suarez. All stems from the TV media nd red tops and what they have said and written about him. Every week in every game in every division things happen like diving, hand abll on purpose, fouling and then claiming the player dived etc but if Luis Suarez does a thing bang! he's the worlds biggest villain.

A bit of realism here is needed from people who like sheep follow the medias word. Officials missed the handball, then claimed it was seen but deemed to be unintentional. Fook off having a go at Suarez.

Finally, Luis should sue Jon Campion and Waddle

Said that all along Brian, it's gorra be defamation or slander. Although the owners would probably disappear off the planet if it went that far; remember the FA race witch hunt? Couldn't see their arses for dust and not a word or a F***ing e-mail from their den in Boston.
If Luis did take legal action they would probably transfer him. 

What baffles me is that very few people seem to realise what Alan is pointing out here. I think actually, what is more likely, is that they do realise it, but they'd much rather fire more abuse his way regardless of the obvious truth.

It's been a while (relatively speaking) since Suarez got the headlines for the wrong reasons (not that he deserved the negative headlines in the past anyway), so the slightest thing he does now will be magnified and exaggerated.

Of course all the TV companies and journalists know that when he scores, he kisses his wrist. They know that he didn't kiss his hand and smirk at the Mansfield fans to wind them up or any other such bullshit, but all they have to do is show the clip of the goal followed by the celebration, or print the picture on the back page (and not mention that it is his normal celebration) and the millions of people who read or watch will jump to conclusions. Pretty sure every footy fan knows it's his normal celebration, but there will be millions looking at that picture who do not know this and will think "what a horrible man".

This is how reputations are built. Back page pictures and headlines such as "CHEAT" or "RACIST". Snippets of commentary such as "That is the work of a cheat" or "Suarez at the centre of the controversy yet again".

The uneducated will fall for this, and he will forever be a cheat to them.

What's worse is, the educated football fans know all the facts, and know that they should admit that Luis has been victimised and falsely portrayed as a cheat/diver/racist, but because of his undeniable talent and the fact he plays for Liverpool means they will not.

It is very much, a sad sad state of affairs.

Thing with Suarez is, he has handball priors. Not talking about the World Cup (completely different situation), but he's tried using his hand before in an attacking sense. So I'm not sure we can be so gung ho that it wasn't intentional. His hand moves forward after the ball strikes, not backward, so that's something to keep in mind. I don't think anything is conclusive anyway and it could very well just be an instinctive reaction on his part.

But the whole argument completely misses the point: This one is totally on the officials. His arm was outstretched and even if unintentional, it completely affected the play. I've seen it called plenty of times before and was very surprised it wasn't. Really do think that linesman got it wrong. Yet, they have hardly been criticized by anyone in the media!

Thing with Suarez is, he has handball priors. Not talking about the World Cup (completely different situation), but he's tried using his hand before in an attacking sense.

Thought it was his teeth 

Thought it was his teeth 

It is indeed a very very sad state of affairs , and it makes  my blood boil.
These idiots should be thankful that Luis is the strong character that he is , because all this could break a lesser man.
That said , what should be remembered is that,  no matter how strong anyone is , we all have a breaking point , and none of us know what any individual's breaking point is.
I am glad that Ayre has come out and backed Luis , if a little late !
As for the owners , once again we are left wanting , the silence is deafening !

Sorry Alan, you're not allowed to deliberately handle the ball in this sport, and cheating in whatever form cannot be condoned. We preach fair play in football, not "if the ref doesn't see it, tough luck". Comparing what happened yesterday to previous games isn't a defence either. Two wrongs don't make a right, and every incident should be taken on it's own merits.

I'm not saying Luis cheated. But if that was against us yesterday, we wouldn't be arguing whether it was accidental or not, saying "do your job" and "play to the whistle". We would be outraged and have every right to be. I notice that there was a rather muted reaction from our fans after it was scored, and they had a perfect view of it.

It could have gone either way. We got the decision our way yesterday, we may not get it our way the next time. And that doesn't justify what happened in the goal against Mansfield either.

I hope the mad little c**t goes a handles one in against the mancs.

And don't worry, the blueshite are still seething over Alan Hansen handling the ball on the goalline against their shower back during the League Cup final in 84, so he fully knows and just like Luis , doesn't give a F**k!

Sorry Alan, you're not allowed to deliberately handle the ball in this sport, and cheating in whatever form cannot be condoned. We preach fair play in football, not "if the ref doesn't see it, tough luck". Comparing what happened yesterday to previous games isn't a defence either. Two wrongs don't make a right, and every incident should be taken on it's own merits.

I'm not saying Luis cheated. But if that was against us yesterday, we wouldn't be arguing whether it was accidental or not, saying "do your job" and "play to the whistle". We would be outraged and have every right to be. I notice that there was a rather muted reaction from our fans after it was scored, and they had a perfect view of it.

It could have gone either way. We got the decision our way yesterday, we may not get it our way the next time. And that doesn't justify what happened in the goal against Mansfield either.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Sorry Alan, you're not allowed to deliberately handle the ball in this sport, and cheating in whatever form cannot be condoned. We preach fair play in football, not "if the ref doesn't see it, tough luck". Comparing what happened yesterday to previous games isn't a defence either. Two wrongs don't make a right, and every incident should be taken on it's own merits.

I'm not saying Luis cheated. But if that was against us yesterday, we wouldn't be arguing whether it was accidental or not, saying "do your job" and "play to the whistle". We would be outraged and have every right to be. I notice that there was a rather muted reaction from our fans after it was scored, and they had a perfect view of it.

It could have gone either way. We got the decision our way yesterday, we may not get it our way the next time. And that doesn't justify what happened in the goal against Mansfield either.

Don't encourage the F***ing troll.

Whoa! Did a newspaper outside of Liverpool just write a sensible story about the truth on the Suarez handball?    How long until SAF buys the paper, fires the writer and retracts the statement?   
Honestly, no Footballer would have done ANYTHING different than what Suarez did. That's just the truth. So he hit it with his hand before the goal, was it a handball? Of course it was. Should Suarez be held responsible about a blown call? Not at all. Why is all the hate on Suarez when it seems like the blame should be on the referee? It's not Suarez's fault that the referee didn't make the (right) call.
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