The Curious Case of Jorg Schmadkte (Sporting Director)

https://twitter.com/LFC/status/1663470449181818880?t=BPbkb8s4Pg3DpHLzrOU1Nw&s=19

Welcome to the club and good luck

Got big shoes to fill

Hope he know what he is doing and bring us success.

Welcome to the club Jorg.

Make us more transfer budget by buying players cheap and selling them off at high prices. Our transfer funds will not drop from the sky and therefore, we need you to grow it.

Welcome.

Could be some players coming from Germany this summer. pure off the radar of the ITK's. l o l

https://twitter.com/TheAnfieldWrap/status/1663483762523402241?s=20

"3 month deal with option to extend"

Makes sense, kind of like a probation but what we need is someone who has an eye for some bargains that are quality players worth several times that

No reason why we need to buy proven players from Brighton, we should be able to find them before hand

Surely we’re waiting on a long term target to become available if this is just a short term deal for a few months?

'Managers don't last long under Schmadtke'
Sky Germany reporter Uli Kohler:
"A great guy! He looks always like he doesn't like to talk very much.
"The one thing is, everywhere he became a sporting director, the coach was fired after half a year, maybe a year.
"I don't think that will happen to Jürgen Klopp because he was the guy behind this move for Schmadtke.
"He is very experienced, he has a good sense of humour and he knows how to trade players. That's what Liverpool need."

Surely we’re waiting on a long term target to become available if this is just a short term deal for a few months?

It’s pretty much a probation to see if it works for both, if it works then he will be here long term. If not he’s helped in the summer window and we will look for someone new once the season has started

Hopefully he can bring in some players with a lot of good physical attributes with quality

We badly lack players with intensity through our whole midfield imo

get Bellingham signed and he will be a success but I dont care much either way you need money to buy players.

'Managers don't last long under Schmadtke'
Sky Germany reporter Uli Kohler:
"A great guy! He looks always like he doesn't like to talk very much.
"The one thing is, everywhere he became a sporting director, the coach was fired after half a year, maybe a year.
"I don't think that will happen to Jürgen Klopp because he was the guy behind this move for Schmadtke.
"He is very experienced, he has a good sense of humour and he knows how to trade players. That's what Liverpool need."

Maybe Jürgen has him in his pocket?

get Bellingham signed and he will be a success but I dont care much either way you need money to buy players.

Which we don't. Need one £? Sell a £. How do we have a bigger transfer fund? Buy a player at one £ and sell him at a multiple of it.

Our funding does not drop from the sky. We will need to grow it ourselves. Huge job for Jorg Schmadkte. You don't just spend what's given to you. You grow your own funding. Fund manager for football players. Maybe we should appoint Warren Buffet? Oh FSG won't pay!

Which we don't. Need one £? Sell a £. How do we have a bigger transfer fund? Buy a player at one £ and sell him at a multiple of it.

Our funding does not drop from the sky. We will need to grow it ourselves. Huge job for Jorg Schmadkte. You don't just spend what's given to you. You grow your own funding. Fund manager for football players. Maybe we should appoint Warren Buffet? Oh FSG won't pay!

grow up it is the big league if you cant stand the heat get out of the kitchen. Do you even begin to understand the size of this club and then having to survive against teams like Chelsea on crumbs. The Europa league maybe be a pipe dream this time next season whilst 6 or 7 clubs out spend us this summer.

grow up it is the big league if you cant stand the heat get out of the kitchen. Do you even begin to understand the size of this club and then having to survive against teams like Chelsea on crumbs. The Europa league maybe be a pipe dream this time next season whilst 6 or 7 clubs out spend us this summer.

...Or as Frank Bruno once said to Harry Carpenter;"If you can't stand the heat in the kitchen, get out of the area" Priceless

My understanding from what I've read is that he is purely there to broker deals, not to scout players. Believe he even made mention that Jürgen will be letting him know who he wants, and it's basically his job to go and get the deals done (as long as the prices are sanctioned by FSG). Seems odd to me to announce it as a 3 month deal. Seems to put a lot of pressure on this summer and why wouldn't you sign him up for longer if he's the right man for the job? It's got a bit of Fat Sam swooping in to save us from relegation feel to it. I'll keep an open mind though.

The twitterati and social media fans have made up their minds it seems

grow up it is the big league if you cant stand the heat get out of the kitchen. Do you even begin to understand the size of this club and then having to survive against teams like Chelsea on crumbs. The Europa league maybe be a pipe dream this time next season whilst 6 or 7 clubs out spend us this summer.

I'm saying the owners wouldn't give us money to spend. We'd have to raise our own money. Are you saying it's going to be otherwise this season? If yes how much are they giving us out of their own pocket? While you have hope, I've given up on extra transfer budget.

The twitterati and social media fans have made up their minds it seems

You spend an inordinate amount of time worrying about what people on twitter and other social media think about things. Some friendly advice...don't worry about it, it doesn't affect anything anyway. If he does a good job, it won't be because of anything any of us say or do and if he doesn't, the same is true. He can be judged once the summer is over.

You spend an inordinate amount of time worrying about what people on twitter and other social media think about things. Some friendly advice...don't worry about it, it doesn't affect anything anyway. If he does a good job, it won't be because of anything any of us say or do and if he doesn't, the same is true. He can be judged once the summer is over.

Sorry I’m confused about what it has to do with you 🤷‍♂️

Sorry I’m confused about what it has to do with you 🤷‍♂️

Imagine being so arrogant that you think everything has to do with you and doesn't affect anyone else's use or enjoyment of the forum. Maybe you should put me on ignore if you aren't adult enough to be able to respond in a mature manner when someone refutes or otherwise critiques something you post. You do realize your opinions are no better than anyone else's right? Or do you not realize that?

Imagine being so arrogant that you think everything has to do with you and doesn't affect anyone else's use or enjoyment of the forum. Maybe you should put me on ignore if you aren't adult enough to be able to respond in a mature manner when someone refutes or otherwise critiques something you post. You do realize your opinions are no better than anyone else's right? Or do you not realize that?

You replied to me so in what way was it not to do with me even more so when you’re telling me what to do 🤷‍♂️

You replied to me so in what way was it not to do with me even more so when you’re telling me what to do 🤷‍♂️

One thing you have right, you think everything is about you. 

I'm saying the owners wouldn't give us money to spend. We'd have to raise our own money. Are you saying it's going to be otherwise this season? If yes how much are they giving us out of their own pocket? While you have hope, I've given up on extra transfer budget.

they may feel their investment (LFC) value could be under threat if we dont qualify for the CL so they may actually be pressured into spend some of "their" money but the point remains top 4 next season will be the most difficult task. Maybe if the club had not spunked £8million on Arthur and god knows how much on Naby and Ox we might have a bit more cash to splash.
sorry if I misread your post but the reality of the transfer market in 2023/24 is money will buy your place in the EPL.

they may feel their investment (LFC) value could be under threat if we dont qualify for the CL so they may actually be pressured into spend some of "their" money but the point remains top 4 next season will be the most difficult task. Maybe if the club had not spunked £8million on Arthur and god knows how much on Naby and Ox we might have a bit more cash to splash.
sorry if I misread your post but the reality of the transfer market in 2023/24 is money will buy your place in the EPL.

Totally agree with you on the need to spend. There’s no question about this. While you’re hopeful about them spending “their” own money, I tend to believe otherwise.

And how we are going to have a higher transfer budget is to “trade” players by buying low and selling high. As Mike Edwards has done. And the key man is this new guy.

We saw this in action before and so it’s nothing new. Just that paying £16m for Mario who was believed to be worth £40m resulted in a write off. But Mike Edwards restored a lot of faith with player trades like Dominic Solanke. And profiting Phil Coutinho for an insane sum. Sounds ridiculous but we saw such things play out. Without extra funding from the owners, you could grow your transfer kitty this way and hope that they do not “cream off” your player profits to go build a bigger stand.

3 month contract is a bit strange.

3 month contract is a bit strange.

They are going to check if they click or not. Too experimental.

3 month contract is a bit strange.

Seems more like a consultation for a period over summer window and then see what happens

Seems more like a consultation for a period over summer window and then see what happens

Hopefully he stays because that would mean that everyone is happy and we had a successful transfer period.

https://twitter.com/LFC/status/1663470449181818880?t=BPbkb8s4Pg3DpHLzrOU1Nw&s=19

Jürgen looks in good nick with his broad smile and teeth gleaming in the late spring sunshine. As for the fella next to him... fingers crossed eh? I cannot help but feel good when I see the boss happy.

Hopefully he stays because that would mean that everyone is happy and we had a successful transfer period.

It also is a sign to.me that Jürgen has got more power at the club

The twitterati and social media fans have made up their minds it seems

First day of work and the club had some camera filming showing him walking towards the Axa Trraining centre. Doesn't even look at the camera as he gets closer to entrance literally lokks sidewards at camera and snarls.

That'll do for me. 😂

First day of work and the club had some camera filming showing him walking towards the Axa Trraining centre. Doesn't even look at the camera as he gets closer to entrance literally lokks sidewards at camera and snarls.

That'll do for me. 😂

That sounds pretty funny. Where can I see this? 

That sounds pretty funny. Where can I see this? 

Seen a clip on twitter

What's views with this position. Why only 3 month? Progress so far ? Rumours spends most days in Ibiza ??

What's views with this position. Why only 3 month? Progress so far ? Rumours spends most days in Ibiza ??

It’s very hard to judge without knowing what’s going on in the background

How much work was done on MacAllister and Dom before he arrived or did he get it sorted etc

It’s very hard to judge without knowing what’s going on in the background

How much work was done on MacAllister and Dom before he arrived or did he get it sorted etc

Not having a dig at him as you say we haven't a clue what's going on . Could it be changes afoot around structure and ownership with partial sale or investment.  Really don't think Mcallister had anything to do with him maybe Dom though but were they not both release clause deals anyway ?

Not having a dig at him as you say we haven't a clue what's going on . Could it be changes afoot around structure and ownership with partial sale or investment.  Really don't think Mcallister had anything to do with him maybe Dom though but were they not both release clause deals anyway ?

I can only think they want to spread the search for Wards replacement but who they want isn’t immediately available hence why Jorg came in or if it’s - 3 month trial to see if he is suited or wants it

f***in hell, the ink’s still wet on his contract and ppl can’t wait to pass judgment, give the bloke a chance ffs, i dunno but I’m betting the paints still wet on his skirting boards in his new home too,

Judge the fella after a couple of summer windows at least, and not when he’s just in the f***in door!!!



YNWA

f***in hell, the ink’s still wet on his contract and ppl can’t wait to pass judgment, give the bloke a chance ffs, i dunno but I’m betting the paints still wet on his skirting boards in his new home too,

Judge the fella after a couple of summer windows at least, and not when he’s just in the f***in door!!!

He couldnt find his arse with both hands

YNWA

And you know this what, after just a few months, i think you’ll find it’s more difficult to find your brain cells than it is for him to find players.

Have a nice day mate your special, the sunshine bus is waiting for ye !!

f***in hell, the ink’s still wet on his contract and ppl can’t wait to pass judgment, give the bloke a chance ffs, i dunno but I’m betting the paints still wet on his skirting boards in his new home too,

Judge the fella after a couple of summer windows at least, and not when he’s just in the f***in door!!!



YNWA

He has a three month contract, if he doesn’t get this window right, there ain’t gonna be a couple summers.

I’ll judge him at the end of his 3 months….he’s started strong but most people only remember how you finish……

No idea how good or otherwise he is at his job but the short deal has an air of someone we really want is out of contract soon and he can hold the fort?

Anyone with more knowledge on this then me know of any DoF who may be free come September?

No idea how good or otherwise he is at his job but the short deal has an air of someone we really want is out of contract soon and he can hold the fort?

Anyone with more knowledge on this then me know of any DoF who may be free come September?

I think it’s the Monaco guy Paul Mitchell we are after.

I think it’s the Monaco guy Paul Mitchell we are after.

That name did ring a bell and did just read that he's ready to leave Monaco once his successor is in place.

We'll see I'm sure but the Jorg appointment never seemed like a long term thing to me.

He has a three month contract, if he doesn’t get this window right, there ain’t gonna be a couple summers.

I’ll judge him at the end of his 3 months….he’s started strong but most people only remember how you finish……

I wasn’t aware he was only here short term, my bad, but nonetheless give the bloke his time here then judge if he’s any good or not,
This fella from Monaco, has he been pulling trees up for them and if so why is he leaving? And would he be any better than Jorg ??


YNWA

I wasn’t aware he was only here short term,

YNWA

Part time support/s 👏👏👏   

Dear Jorg,

English clubs overpay for each other's players. Not ideal, but it's how it is. Better than going into a season without enough good players.

Part time support/s 👏👏👏   

Better being a so called part time supporter than being a part time Thick Manc Cnut   

He’s young, homegrown, and will make the starting 11 of a top four team. 50M is sort of a given in this crazy market…

Few things to be said for Jorges negotiation style, been nothing short of a shambles. Also amount of stuff leaked to press shows how much of a sh*tshow it is behind the scenes.

Few things to be said for Jorges negotiation style, been nothing short of a shambles. Also amount of stuff leaked to press shows how much of a sh*tshow it is behind the scenes.

Couldn't sign an autograph this guy let alone the players we need. F**k him off

On fire 2 from 2 first couple of days, haven't heard sh*t from him since.

On fire 2 from 2 first couple of days, haven't heard sh*t from him since.

Liverpool had been great at doing business quietly. Not a fan of all the leaks to journalists.

Liverpool had been great at doing business quietly. Not a fan of all the leaks to journalists.

That’s what is making things worse - the constant media

It’s imo a poor tactic from which ever club is releasing it

On fire 2 from 2 first couple of days, haven't heard sh*t from him since.

Ward did those purchases ... especially the work for them before he left.

This fella is on holiday and done didly squat so far and made decent money I'm sure.

This club is a total shambles. This fella has only just arrived.

This shambles lies firmly and squarely at the door of our parasite owners .... that's for the other thread.

That’s what is making things worse - the constant media

It’s imo a poor tactic from which ever club is releasing it

Would never be FSG now would it

Would never be FSG now would it

Why would FSG themselves be releasing anything ?

Did one of the owners sleep with your wife or something

That’s what is making things worse - the constant media

It’s imo a poor tactic from which ever club is releasing it

So far as "our" side is concerned, it's pretty apparent that Reddy, Pearce and Joyce are getting their info from contacts within the club. I'm sure Soton are releasing info on their own side as well, but that shouldn't be a surprise....we've dealt with them enough prior to know how they handle things.

So far as "our" side is concerned, it's pretty apparent that Reddy, Pearce and Joyce are getting their info from contacts within the club. I'm sure Soton are releasing info on their own side as well, but that shouldn't be a surprise....we've dealt with them enough prior to know how they handle things.

It’s always telling though when the likes of Pearce it seems are the last to know when some transfers happen

Dom a perfect example

Couldn't sign an autograph this guy let alone the players we need. F**k him off

I bet he can sign his name when getting a round in when on the piss with Jürgen

I bet he can sign his name when getting a round in when on the piss with Jürgen

Probably uses a contactless card.

This fellas role in all of this will.be interesting or lack of it

Bringing in a part time out of employment DOF was a good idea. How many other big clubs have part time ,temporary figures in place during a rebuild . But it's OK he likes a pint and a character 

F**k him off

F**k him off

Is he the one not offering the same level of wages as Chelsea ?

Is he the one not offering the same level of wages as Chelsea ?

So, just out of curiosity, considering we all know we had agree personal terms with the player weeks ago, but would not meet Southampton valuation of the player and assuming you are right, Jorg doesn't have the power to match the wage offered by Chelsea 3 weeks after we had agreed personal terms with him, who's fault is it that we didn't seal the deal for 3 weeks?

So, just out of curiosity, considering we all know we had agree personal terms with the player weeks ago, but would not meet Southampton valuation of the player and assuming you are right, Jorg doesn't have the power to match the wage offered by Chelsea 3 weeks after we had agreed personal terms with him, who's fault is it that we didn't seal the deal for 3 weeks?

Did we “agree personal terms” ?

Or did the player say he would if a bid was accepted

Do people want us to just start paying whatever a player wants or whatever a club wants

Did we “agree personal terms” ?

Or did the player say he would if a bid was accepted

Do people want us to just start paying whatever a player wants or whatever a club wants

Nope, we agreed terms (verbally) and the player was ready to join us as soon as a bid would be accepted. I reiterate my question, who's fault is it that we refused to bid 50M for 3 weeks and suddenly find ourselves empty handed after being forced to bid 10M more than price originally quoted and that we refused to pay for 3 weeks?

Sack this guy now

Here’s the fall guy for FSG come September

Here’s the fall guy for FSG come September

Big time.

This thread's name reminds me of the movie ''The Curious Case of Benjamin Button''. It's pretty much where we're at I'd say. Regressing

This thread's name reminds me of the movie ''The Curious Case of Benjamin Button''. It's pretty much where we're at I'd say. Regressing

Should throw a cheeky bid in for Cate Blanchett.

Not exactly rolling in glory is he

I get the challenges finding a DM, apart from the useless transfer strategy, they all keep turning us down.
Regardless where is the urgency regarding a LCB? The seasons started. We must have known we were continuing with this formation 2 months before the end of last season. What the absolute F**k is going on. Wait until a week before the window shuts so all clubs turn us down due to inability to secure a replacement?

Should throw a cheeky bid in for Cate Blanchett.

Heard she only wants to join Chelsea 😂

I get the challenges finding a DM

Should see how hard it is when you show your hand of being absolutely desperate for one and that you're willing to spend £110 million on getting one.

https://x.com/francoisplateau/status/1691382628358803456?s=46&t=_4uI6CiVRqge8WqM7F37Iw


Don’t think it’s a surprise tbh

https://x.com/francoisplateau/status/1691382628358803456?s=46&t=_4uI6CiVRqge8WqM7F37Iw


Don’t think it’s a surprise tbh

Don't know who this Plateau guy is (honestly sounds like a made account that just paid for a blue tick) but I don't think it's a huge reach to think that Jorg isn't shown the door.

https://x.com/watch_lfc/status/1701624412972142996?s=46&t=_4uI6CiVRqge8WqM7F37Iw

Looks like he is staying for the rest of the season

I don't get it. Do people not think he's done well. Damn fine window if you ask me. Really good window short term and amazing one for the long haul....

I don't get it. Do people not think he's done well. Damn fine window if you ask me. Really good window short term and amazing one for the long haul....

I get the feeling he looks like a German "Dingle" from Emmerdale or something.

Still reckon the whole deal is cos Jurg needs a drinking buddy, absolutely nothing to do with him knowing the German Market

I don't get it. Do people not think he's done well. Damn fine window if you ask me. Really good window short term and amazing one for the long haul....

Well Mac and Dom were good signings, but those were pretty easy right? Release clauses, paid and that's that.

Didn't get Caicedo, fumbled Thuram.

Feel like anyone could have had that window honestly. Don't see anything special about what he's done.

I don't get it. Do people not think he's done well. Damn fine window if you ask me. Really good window short term and amazing one for the long haul....

Guess the manager thinks he has done well 🤷‍♂️

Well Mac and Dom were good signings, but those were pretty easy right? Release clauses, paid and that's that.

Didn't get Caicedo, fumbled Thuram.

Feel like anyone could have had that window honestly. Don't see anything special about what he's done.

Fumbled Thuram ?

Did we even submit any bids for him

Fumbled Thuram ?

Did we even submit any bids for him

Oh yea, wrong guy, Lavia. Sorry, I got our missed targets confused.

Well Mac and Dom were good signings, but those were pretty easy right? Release clauses, paid and that's that.

Didn't get Caicedo, fumbled Thuram.

Feel like anyone could have had that window honestly. Don't see anything special about what he's done.

Caicedo's not on the sporting director, that was personally dealt with by Billy Hogan, which shows I think we were more interested in costing Chelsea more money on that one.

Well Mac and Dom were good signings, but those were pretty easy right? Release clauses, paid and that's that.

Didn't get Caicedo, fumbled Thuram.

Feel like anyone could have had that window honestly. Don't see anything special about what he's done.

I dunno man. Gravenberch was a good bit of business too. If Endo ends up working out we could be looking back at this window and transforming

Well Mac and Dom were good signings, but those were pretty easy right? Release clauses, paid and that's that.

Didn't get Caicedo, fumbled Thuram.

Feel like anyone could have had that window honestly. Don't see anything special about what he's done.

He/we didn’t land Caicedo cos he wanted to be plastic and be in London, Lavia the same, F**k  all to do with whether WE wanted him/them, both decided to join the circus de Stamford with the rest of the clowns ??


YNWA

Oh yea, wrong guy, Lavia. Sorry, I got our missed targets confused.

He was vastly over priced and was clearly chasing the money going to Chelsea - the club stood firm with their price and don’t feel they have missed out

Got Gravenburch in and I suspect has the Andre deal sorted

He was vastly over priced and was clearly chasing the money going to Chelsea - the club stood firm with their price and don’t feel they have missed out

Got Gravenburch in and I suspect has the Andre deal sorted

If you say so 😂

Anybody knows if we are extending his stay at the club or if he is leaving in the summer? Curious to see what we do with that position, but not much news on that front as far as I can tell/remember.