Premier League clubs to vote on scrapping VAR

Of course VAR should be scrapped but with human nature City will win the league every year.

Brown envelopes carry a lot of sway.

It's the same now mate. The officials are paid off to favour the big boys with VAR.

I've said before that they didn't need this overly complicated system. One pitch side monitor. Two, possibly three appeals per team. Only for penalties and red cards. Ref goes to monitor, checks all the angles, gives the decision. Some will say..' ah but the ref won't want to contradict himself '.

Oliver for example said the Doku studs up on Mac's was a 'coming together'...now the VAR ref went along with that for some unkown reason and it wasn't really reviewed.

Now lets say VVD appealed it. There's no way Oliver, having looked at all the angles could claim it was a coming together. So under the system I'm promoting the Ref HAS to review it. Under their system there's no guarantee they'll review it and mistakes can't be corrected.

And it's the blatant mistakes that are being accepted by VAR. And that's the nub of the problem.

Lots "F**k VAR " being sung this weekend then just to remind owners how fans feel

Never ever happening I'm afraid. Var here to stay.

Needs improving big time. The directive not to re referee the game not a good one. Some referees are that bad it needs re refereeing.

If it does stay, it's the one area of life I wouldn't mind AI taking over completely. For something that is meant to iron out human error, there is a lot of human error happening...

If it does stay, it's the one area of life I wouldn't mind AI taking over completely. For something that is meant to iron out human error, there is a lot of human error happening...

It is impossible for VAR to 100% iron out human error, at best it may reduce or minimise it. If it stays, you have to accept it will be fallible and many judgements will remain contentious and unresolved. We are a million years away from AI being able to moderate a football match (in real time)...in much the same as it is a million years away from plumbing in a toilet.

It is impossible for VAR to 100% iron out human error, at best it may reduce or minimise it. If it stays, you have to accept it will be fallible and many judgements will remain contentious and unresolved. We are a million years away from AI being able to moderate a football match (in real time)...in much the same as it is a million years away from plumbing in a toilet.

Then get rid of it.

I’d rather have more real time mistakes being made if it means I get the ability to celebrate a goal again… if there’s going to human errors no matter what, get rid of the option that drains the joy from the game in my opinion.

Then get rid of it.

I’d rather have more real time mistakes being made if it means I get the ability to celebrate a goal again… if there’s going to human errors no matter what, get rid of the option that drains the joy from the game in my opinion.

Totally agree with you, it has completely diluted the match experience and needs to go....now.

The improved decision making is bollix and typical of people who need to produce stats because they simply cannot understand that football is an emotional game and not an accounting exercise

Lots "F**k VAR " being sung this weekend then just to remind owners how fans feel

I can't imagine there's anything less likely to engage the mind of a multi-millionaire football club owner, than the rules of the game, or how those rules might be interpreted.

The issue is not VAR but how they use it and WHO use it.

They should be full time VAR not one day referee and the other day on VAR duty.

The issue is not VAR but how they use it and WHO use it.

They should be full time VAR not one day referee and the other day on VAR duty.

Many say the same thing including myself. However, until they sack those running  VAR  nothing will change. We need new blood/officials coming in from Europe.   

Work out how many points VAR has cost us this season... add it to our points total... I'll leave that right there.
And we're not the only one's.

How can we as a club defend the very system that has taken potential title winning points of us IN ERROR!?!

It stinks, the Ref's stink and it needs to go - here's our chance.

Jürgen would vote to scrap it. As they won't get tid of the people running it .
Don't watch his last interview without a tissue to hand...now it's real he is leaving. Gave the best reference to the people of Liverpool I have ever heard

It's an ill thought out system and will carry on giving numerous wrong decision.

Jürgen said in his presser that the people using VAR are not capable of using it properly and as you can’t change the people, he would vote to scrap it...... YNWA

Jürgen said in his presser that the people using VAR are not capable of using it properly and as you can’t change the people, he would vote to scrap it...... YNWA

Pretty much my stance.

Jürgen said in his presser that the people using VAR are not capable of using it properly and as you can’t change the people, he would vote to scrap it...... YNWA

It would be interesting to know what he means by "Using it properly" Are there set guidelines for how it is supposed to be implemented that are being ignored, either in error or deliberately? I presume he means the operators are just inconsistent and lack knowledge.

The real issue is that the Captain should be able to appeal the decision. The ' clear & obvious' error is too, well error prone. Accident waiting to happen territory. We would've appealed 'Doku' straight away.

So giving the captain 2 possible 3 appeals does away with the ludicrous C & O error nonsense. Just for penalty or ref cards. Offside decision will be decided by technology.

The real issue is that the Captain should be able to appeal the decision. The ' clear & obvious' error is too, well error prone. Accident waiting to happen territory. We would've appealed 'Doku' straight away.

So giving the captain 2 possible 3 appeals does away with the ludicrous C & O error nonsense. Just for penalty or ref cards. Offside decision will be decided by technology.

A bit like cricket, more time consuming but no one seems bothered about that these days. Obviously the  captain will have so many seconds before he’s counted out. However, tricky to implement. The opposition could play/carry on within a nano nano second 🤷‍♂️

The real issue is that the Captain should be able to appeal the decision. The ' clear & obvious' error is too, well error prone. Accident waiting to happen territory. We would've appealed 'Doku' straight away.

So giving the captain 2 possible 3 appeals does away with the ludicrous C & O error nonsense. Just for penalty or ref cards. Offside decision will be decided by technology.

But does the appeal system change anything? VAR looked at the Doku challenge and thought it was fair. What would us 'appealing' do? The VAR would still have said no pen?

There's no way the PL will allow the division to be an outlier from the top 30 leagues in the world. 29 of which use VAR with Sweden I believe opting out.

The officials are incapable of running a game look at how many throw inns are a, not taken from the place where the ball went out b, foul throws, free kick are given for an infringement if a, you try to take a quick one the the ref stops it b, when you take a free kick the is numerous player no where near 10 yards away so the team who were fouled gain no advantage, if you get injured during a foul against you, you have to stay off the pitch 30 seconds after the game restarts
 
 Reffing is shocking so the least they are involved the better