FA Suarez documents released

This is the thing; there is no video evidence of Suarez saying anything.

All there is, is one mans word against another.

I take it the FA have concluded that the first conversation took place rather than the second, to which the obvious question is; how?

Page 59: 231. We found Mr Evra to be an impressive witness. He gave his evidence to us in a calm,
composed and clear manner.

Page 60: 237. However, Mr Suarez was not as impressive a witness as Mr Evra. His answers were not
always clear or directly addressed to the question.

Evra has lived in England for 5 years?!
Suarez hasn't lived her for 1?!
How the hell is Suarez going to be clear and precise to answer the questions?!

And I know its not a great source by any means, but looks like the papers are already reporting it badly...
http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Patrice-Evra-Liverpool-s-Luis-Suarez-told-me-I-don-t-speak-to-blacks-article847872.html

'The report also said Luis Suarez gave "unreliable" and "inconsistent" evidence to the commission investigating claims that he racially abused Evra.'

Page 59: 231. We found Mr Evra to be an impressive witness. He gave his evidence to us in a calm,
composed and clear manner.

Page 60: 237. However, Mr Suarez was not as impressive a witness as Mr Evra. His answers were not
always clear or directly addressed to the question.

Racist c**ts the fa.

Because a south American less then 12 months in England isnt clear in his answers hes guilty. Go and fook right off

Racist c**ts the fa.

Because a south American less then 12 months in England isnt clear in his answers hes guilty. Go and fook right off

That's the comment I was about to make.

Surely they didn't make Luis stand up and explain himself in English? If so thats F***ing ridiculous considering the amount of time he has been here.

I love this bit.

In his interview with Canal+ shortly after the game, Mr Evra said "You can even see
clearly on his lips what he told me at least ten times". It is worth bearing in mind that Mr
Evra had only told the journalist about the incident off the record, but that the journalist
nevertheless asked Mr Evra about it during the filmed interview. This is the unchallenged
evidence of Mr Guy, the journalist, supported by Mr Evra.
71
280. Mr Evra said that the phrase "ten times" was just a figure of speech in France. We
understood Mr Comolli to say broadly the same thing, though he thought that Mr Evra
should have been more precise when giving evidence on such a serious matter on
television.
281. We find that Mr Evra's use of the phrase "ten times" was a figure of speech and not meant
to be taken literally. In circumstances where he was angry and upset after the game, he
had only spoken to Canal+ about this topic off the record, they had nevertheless asked
him about it when filming (contrary to his request that they not do so), and he was using
what appears to be a common figure of speech in France, there is nothing in the Canal+
interview which materially undermines Mr Evra's evidence.

COMMON FIGURE OF SPEECH IN FRANCE AND THEY ACCEPTED THAT. Double standards much.

Just heard that it had been released and the chap on five live reckons he's got to page 60 and it seems to boil down to Evra's word against Luis'.
There doesn't  appear to be any video evidence and the Utd. Goalie heard nothing despite most of it taking place in his goal mouth.
Will read it properly over next couple of days, but why release it on New Year's Eve.
Really think Luis' has been stitched up good and proper.
Happy New Year to one and all!

I'm not sure if the FA expect anyone to take this seriously or whether it's a joke.

Us fans are picking holes in it for fun, imagine what Suarez's lawyers will be like!

Mr
Suarez used the word "negro" or "negros" seven times, in the course of an
acrimonious argument, and went beyond simply addressing Mr Evra as "negro".

Mr Evra's evidence is that up to this point Mr Suarez had used the word "negro" or
“negros” five times in the goalmouth

SPOT THE DIFFERENCE

Its a joke but the one thing il say is u can see suarez grabbing evras skin which doesnt help.

"We found that Mr Evra's account is probably what happened" UNBELIEVABLE

I'm not sure if the FA expect anyone to take this seriously or whether it's a joke.

Us fans are picking holes in it for fun, imagine what Suarez's lawyers will be like!

Chats you just put a smile on my face pal.

In anger I havent even considered the fact that the legal team will be going through this with a fine tooth comb. As you say if us Joe soaps can find faults in it they will certainly tear into it

If what they are saying on SKY is true, then he is as guilty as you can be.

I don't think the FA\Media would make this up. We as a club need to shut up, accept the ban and move on. Of course everyone has opinions and that is mine.

Point 12 is interesting.


During the interview, the FA and Mr Evra watched some footage of the match.  Mr Evra pointed out to the FA, by reference to the video footage, when it was during the match the Mr Suarez had made the comments about which Mr Evra had complained.  This information enabled the FA to ask broadcasters to provide footage of what appeared to be key moments of the game, so far as Mr Evra's complaint was concerned.  This video footage was provided in due course. It contained material which was not broadcast, including footage of the exchanges in the penalty area in the 63rd minute taken from a number of different camera angles.



If Sky had footage proving this allegation, I find it hard they to believe they wouldn't air it.

If what they are saying on SKY is true, then he is as guilty as you can be.

I don't think the FA\Media would make this up.

If what they are saying on SKY is true, then he is as guilty as you can be.

I don't think the FA\Media would make this up. We as a club need to shut up, accept the ban and move on. Of course everyone has opinions and that is mine.

Holy sh*t!

And another point how come Evra isn't being done for threatening to punch Suarez?

Tadders , so you believe Evra above Suarez , and that is what it boils down to.
Well I don't, Evra has previous and the fact that the  FA takes his word above Suarez, says more about the FA than anything I could say !
We support our own , I do not believe Luis is a racist and I hope we as a club fight this all the way.
As has been said this would be thrown out of court as they only found him guilty on the balance of probability !

Guys. forget you support Liverpool and he is our idol.

Look at the facts and stop being hypocrites.

Read through about half of it so far. Seems to me they're obsessed with whether or not pinching Evra's skin was to diffuse the situation or not FFS. They're practically condemning Suarez based on (paraphrase) "he was inconsistent about pinching."

Guys. forget you support Liverpool and he is our idol.

Look at the facts and stop being hypocrites.

Go on then whats the facts? Ignore Suarez, ignore Evra and ignore the fa. Whats the facts?

Read the transcript - remember that Luis has never denied saying these things, and look at the context. If he was my player I would punish him, I am not and nor is anyone saying he is a racist but what he said and we have now read is wrong.