Jude Bellingham (Dortmund)

Surely if they are paying the bills that means the club isn’t skint 🙄

Surely when you say we can't sign anyone because we have to pay bills your skint.

Surely when you say we can't sign anyone because we have to pay bills your skint.

When have they said that ?

Raiola and his sort are one of the worst cancers in the sport at the moment. Vile individual

The level of money clubs pay to agents is beyond a disgrace

I believe for the Haaland transfer Raiola wanted £47mil in Commission

When have they said that ?

The year we won the champions league.

Anyway we get £30m per year. That buys us Bellingham's shorts.

Ah dont buy anyone just make our own players

I cant see this happening, unless cost is reasonable. English plyers are generally over priced.

Klopp and FSG would prefer to snag someone nobody else is talking about and turn them into a superstar.

All debate over transfer policy aside, the fact that we have the best manager in the world and are giving him a £17m average net spend is scandalous.

I’m a fan of FSG for the most part but Klopp deserves £60m plus sales EVERY year.

All debate over transfer policy aside, the fact that we have the best manager in the world and are giving him a £17m average net spend is scandalous.

I’m a fan of FSG for the most part but Klopp deserves £60m plus sales EVERY year

Can’t understand a statement like that - you can’t have generic figures of minimum spend , it’s not how it works

All debate over transfer policy aside, the fact that we have the best manager in the world and are giving him a £17m average net spend is scandalous.

I’m a fan of FSG for the most part but Klopp deserves £60m plus sales EVERY year.

Klopp has achieved miracles inspite of fsg. And when he's gone just see how it goes under fsg. Much the same as it did pre October 2015. Plenty of false dawns.

Bellingham isn't happening this window or any other.

Even if klopp wanted him he'd have to generate the funds himself in order to buy him. I cant see how he raises the money to buy Bellingham. Sell salah yes but Bellingham wouldn't be a replacement for Salah ...2 different players.

We will turn a profit or near as damn it in the summer window.

Can’t understand a statement like that - you can’t have generic figures of minimum spend , it’s not how it works

You can have whatever you want. It's called an opinion.

You can have whatever you want. It's called an opinion.

Sorry but opinions don’t run football clubs 🙄


And no one said people couldn’t have opinions


Clubs don’t have “generic figures to spend”. The transfer budgets are always fluid , there is never a set budget amount. And certainly not “deserve x amount”  - it’s never about the amount , it’s about the right players.

Klopp has achieved miracles inspite of fsg. And when he's gone just see how it goes under fsg. Much the same as it did pre October 2015. Plenty of false dawns.

Bellingham isn't happening this window or any other.

Even if klopp wanted him he'd have to generate the funds himself in order to buy him. I cant see how he raises the money to buy Bellingham. Sell salah yes but Bellingham wouldn't be a replacement for Salah ...2 different players.

We will turn a profit or near as damn it in the summer window.

Profit ? When did we last “turn” a profit ?

Can’t understand a statement like that - you can’t have generic figures of minimum spend , it’s not how it works

So you can’t set a yearly goal to provide your incredible manager with a minimum of pre-sales funds? What exactly don’t you understand?

So you can’t set a yearly goal to provide your incredible manager with a minimum of pre-sales funds? What exactly don’t you understand?

It’s not that simple though is it

Everything is always depending on the money thah the club earns through the season and then coupled with the level of outgoings


They look at players they scout , see what the level of finance that’s required , look at how the club can pay for the players , see if it fits in with what level of finance they have after the outgoings etc

Clubs don’t work on figures like that where they set goals for what can be spent. It’s far too fluid

There is an interview with Edwards and he explains the process they use and it’s very enlightening. 

Every now & then I dip into my own pockets to buy stock for my store knowing it’s good stock & I’ll recoup money & profit down the line..

It’s that simple..

Every now & then I dip into my own pockets to buy stock for my store knowing it’s good stock & I’ll recoup money & profit down the line..

It’s that simple..

That’s not how they run their clubs - they stated that clearly from the start and that hasn’t changed.

Every now & then I dip into my own pockets to buy stock for my store knowing it’s good stock & I’ll recoup money & profit down the line..

It’s that simple..

Its not were talking FSG here

All debate over transfer policy aside, the fact that we have the best manager in the world and are giving him a £17m average net spend is scandalous.

Yep, with the 'model' not sure how close to a PL FSG were getting until Jürgen arrived.
The net available to him is pretty pathetic and he's supposed to challenge Citeh and the other big clubs.
The thing is him and his team have done such a good job, he's basically making FSG look good.
We've got to the stage were we don't really expect much at transfer windows, and it's like Christmas if a quality player arrives.

Yep, with the 'model' not sure how close to a PL FSG were getting until Jürgen arrived.
The net available to him is pretty pathetic and he's supposed to challenge Citeh and the other big clubs.
The thing is him and his team have done such a good job, he's basically making FSG look good.
We've got to the stage were we don't really expect much at transfer windows, and it's like Christmas if a quality player arrives.

Instead of looking at net - look at the players that have been bought

Alisson
Matip
Konate
VVD
Robertson
Fabinho
Thiago
Keita
Oxlade
Elliott
Mane
Mo
Jota
Gini
Shaqiri
Kostas
Gordon

The club have been that good at recruitment they have bought players that won the club the CL and League and right not we are challenging for 4 trophies

Yet it’s always a concentration on spending figures


Does it really matter what the net spend in as long as what money is spent is done getting the right players in


Example - we spent less on Alisson than Kepa , less on VVD than Maguire , less on Jota than Werner , less on Robertson than Shaw

And then add in players coming through like TAA

So is it a case of the right players regardless the amount

Yep, with the 'model' not sure how close to a PL FSG were getting until Jürgen arrived.
The net available to him is pretty pathetic and he's supposed to challenge Citeh and the other big clubs.
The thing is him and his team have done such a good job, he's basically making FSG look good.
We've got to the stage were we don't really expect much at transfer windows, and it's like Christmas if a quality player arrives.

Deffo mate. Last summer he got the centre half to replace lovren ... who he had to gamble selling so he could buy a left back in tsimikas. That didn't work out too good did it? And in the winter with us on our arse they backed him to the tune of 3m to bring in a championship defender who he didn't want and kabak who he didn't want either.

To bring konate in he had to sell 4 players and he managed to break even again last summer. I think we were 850k in profit past summer.

I'm sure there were other players he wanted to bring in ... but he didn't have enough assets he was happy  to sell to raise funds. So he cobbled together enough for konate to avoid any repeat of last season when he was left short.

This summer origi, minamino and ox may be used to raise penny's for a new player ... milly onto the coaching staff maybe. Maybe he looks at cashing in on mane or Bobby to raise funds with them both having 1 year left and no noise over a new deal for either. There is the possibility Mo doesn't resign ....

That’s not how they run their clubs - they stated that clearly from the start and that hasn’t changed.

They also counted on FFP to be enforced, but it hasn't been. So their model may need modified if they are going to keep up with the clubs that aren't hindered by the budget.

They also counted on FFP to be enforced, but it hasn't been. So their model may need modified if they are going to keep up with the clubs that aren't hindered by the budget.

FFP is being enforced

Which clubs aren’t they keeping up with ?

FFP is being enforced

Which clubs aren’t they keeping up with ?

Oh if you believe that then this discussion is useless. Cheers.